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Do you believe in a God or follow any sort of religion?
yes (I'm aspie/autie) 41%  41%  [ 127 ]
no (I'm aspie/autie) 55%  55%  [ 170 ]
yes (I'm NT) 3%  3%  [ 8 ]
no (I'm NT) 2%  2%  [ 5 ]
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03 Aug 2008, 1:05 pm

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Oh, you are another of those wishy-washy Deists.


Wishy-Washy: Insipid (lacking in qualities that interest, stimulate, or challenge), lacking in strength of character or purpose; ineffective.

If reality does not interest, stimulate, or challenge, well, at least try to pay attention to oncoming traffic!
If there was a lack of character or purpose, please clarify as to the lack, rather than being dismissive out of boredom.
If it was an ineffective presentation to either those who believe in an activist God or those who believe in natural, super-universal causation, please endeavor to explain on what grounds it was lacking!

As for not self-labelling, it works just fine, and know that labels, like words themselves, are at best shorthand for the real thing to which they refer. Furthermore, as morality is a social construct, it is notably lacking from the presented philosophy, ergo it is not deist in the definitive sense.


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08 Aug 2008, 4:25 pm

Time and space curve, bent by the gravitational mass of the Universe. Future is the past.

Many Humans want to live forever and would also like to give eternal life to animals and plants. The Universe has another 10 to 15 billion years before it circles around again. Somewhere during all that tremendous amount of time we'll build John's Cube (Revelation 21 and 22), just as we built the Nautilus, the Moon ship Columbia and the International Space station. Isaiah and John won't be the first or the last, "science fiction writers" to have their dream turned into reality. We will build it because we want to. No other reason is necessary. Because of curved space/time it already exists.

Someone has to run the place. It might as well be the Galilee Carpenter. His words are wise and His sacrifice was great. Many who do not even believe He is God, wish He was. So He is the best candidate. From reading both their words we can tell Jesus wants to and Buddha does not Because of curved space time His operating system is just as uploadable as anybody else's. .

That won't be the only thing we do in the far distant future, but it will be one of the things we do. Because why not?



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09 Aug 2008, 2:01 pm

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I'm an aspie, and unless either detailed workings of how the mind works (not the physical brain, but metaphysical consciousness behind it) or proven evidence of why the Big Bang happened, I'll continue to believe in God.

Is that an aspie thing? what if there is no proven evidence of God either?

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who are we to second-guess what He would want?

Actually, I think that is one of the jobs of all religions, to supposely know what God wants, doesn't it?


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09 Aug 2008, 2:12 pm

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This is perhaps the first time I have ever heard anyone denounce God because of Spiderman.


Anyways, I began to question God when I was about 10 or so. I stopped questioning God at around 20 or so. Despite having had similar views as atheists before, I find it difficult to understand how a person can actually be an atheist and not be blind and deaf.


That's quite harsh. I understand people believing, but the way you say it sounds as if there was any concrete proof of god's existance and thus only ignorant people would be atheist.

As far as I know no concrete proves exist that any deity existed. Believers want others to respect their faith (which is only normal) but a bit of respect for those who have a different opinion would be quite nice actually.

Were his statements any harsher than the OP's declamations against religion? No double standards, please. If atheists want to demand that their views be respected, they need to respect religious people and not claim that all Christians are irrational, deluded nut jobs.


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09 Aug 2008, 9:41 pm

Godand Jesus Christ are awesome



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10 Aug 2008, 5:22 am

As a Christian, I believe in God the Father, Jesus the Son, and the Holy Spirit. My belief in God is simple, old-fashioned I guess you'd say. IMHO it's very hard to find God if you'd rather ignore Him. God is the Alpha-and-Omega of the Universe, beyond all petty human notions of religion. God is masculine, not male. Male is a gender. Humans have gender. God is not human. God is genderless.



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10 Aug 2008, 2:08 pm

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[Anyways, I began to question God when I was about 10 or so. I stopped questioning God at around 20 or so. Despite having had similar views as atheists before, I find it difficult to understand how a person can actually be an atheist and not be blind and deaf.

I've been questioning G-d all my life. That's one of the ways I know that I believe!



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10 Aug 2008, 2:26 pm

''So in short, unless you are devoted to God, your life is worthless.''
Whoa! I conside myself to be a person of faith, but I am not willing to consider all the contributions to humanity by atheists or those who felt no need for religion in their lives, worthless. My faith tells me that G-d gave us a world with many imperfections, and said, ''Go fix it!'' Therefore, anyone who is doing that, is doing His work. As far as ''proof'', nobody has ever found absolute proof either way.



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10 Aug 2008, 2:27 pm

''So in short, unless you are devoted to God, your life is worthless.''
Whoa! I conside myself to be a person of faith, but I am not willing to consider all the contributions to humanity by atheists or those who felt no need for religion in their lives, worthless. My faith tells me that G-d gave us a world with many imperfections, and said, ''Go fix it!'' Therefore, anyone who is doing that, is doing His work. As far as ''proof'', nobody has ever found absolute proof either way.



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10 Aug 2008, 2:36 pm

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Good for you! I was baptized Catholic also. :)



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10 Aug 2008, 2:45 pm

As far as gender, I reconciled myself to referring to G-d as ''Him'' when I encountered the teaching that in our relationship to G-d, we all are in the female role.( This is on a very high spiritual level, bringing spiritual concepts down to our understanding as physical human beings.) He gives, we receive; He ''proposed'', we accepted, etc. That doesn't mean (to me, at least) that in the physical world, women are subordinate to men. It's just a way of explaining the G-d- humankind relationship so most people can grasp it. And to me, I like the fact that the men who brought down this teaching were basically saying, ''we're all women''!



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10 Aug 2008, 2:49 pm

Clearly, we are not all women. God made us male and female.

Or was just a figure of speech?



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10 Aug 2008, 3:46 pm

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Clearly, we are not all women. God made us male and female.

Or was just a figure of speech?


No, in the Bible the people of Israel were to be like a bride to God (or G-D, HaShem even). See Hosea.

In the New Testament, the Church is the "bride of Christ". See Ephesians, around the end of the letter.

It is not meant to mean that "we're all women", but rather to stress the covenant relationship that God has with His people. Though, in todays society which has rejected God marriage is also far less serious than it used to be as well - whether related or not our culture has changed, even degenerated, in the brief span of decades even.



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10 Aug 2008, 11:47 pm

An analogy. The way we relate to G-d is compared to the way a wife relates to her husband. This is so the majority of people, (especially at the time it was written!)whose ideal is heterosexual marriage, can understand and relate to it. Obviously, you apply the lesson in your own way to your individual situation.



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11 Aug 2008, 12:00 am

Realy I thought most big christians were realy against the mariage between parent and child. We are but children to him afterall, and he is our father, or what about shepard is it good for a shepard to marry there herd.


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11 Aug 2008, 2:51 am

Marriage between parent and child? No, that would be incest. Incest is a big no-no.