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Matthew 5:17-18 "Do not think that I have come to abolish the law or the prophets; I have come not to abolish but to fulfill. For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth pass away, not one letter, not one stoke of a letter, will pass from the law until all is accomplished."
So yes, you are wrong, and I corrected you. If Jesus had "thrown out" the Old Testament according to any reputable theological interpretation, would modern churches still include those books as canonical?


No, there are different translations. It's still the same Bible. Translation is not an exact science, and the underlying message is the same in every English translation I have ever seen. If you're worried about it, go learn Greek and Hebrew so you can read it in the original.


You've yet to substantiate claims that the Bible is "flawed" (and no atheist has ever been able to establish such claims, since the archaeological and textual evidence supporting the reliable transmission of the Bible is overwhelming). And I haven't tried to determine how others live their lives, nor would anyone who followed Jesus's commands.

Then I congratulate you. Trouble is many christians do, as I said earlier in this thread maybe its time for yourself and others like you to form a collective voice, and combat those that say they are christian but have no real concept of what christianity is all about.

BTW thanks for the lesson in scripture, somehow I had it in my head that jesus basically said look I bring you a new covenant so throw away the old one.

Yes, but only if they repent and seek forgiveness. Unrepentant sinners go to the hot place.

Back to the original questions.
No, I think there's absolutely nothing wrong with homosexuality, bi-sexuality, transgender, etc etc etc.
No, my opinion is not influenced by a religion, because I don't believe in (a) god.
Ni dieu ni maitre!

You're certainly entitled to your opinion, kitty2. It's good to speak up on forums like this.

Hot place? That's tempting.

Yes, Hell has been somewhat romanticized in our culture.


Hell = Cool

Heaven = Uncool


And by extension, sin and vice are "cool" while morality and virtue are "uncool." By further extention, Satan is "cool," God is "uncool."

Gotta love mass media.

Interesting find, slowmutant.

According to Dante, Satan isn't just cool, he's freezing.

You can put anything on a T-shirt these days.

Paul was neither the Christ nor one of the Apostles. Please provide a quotation from Jesus or any of his 12 Apostles to prove your point.

Acts 9:3-16 for starters. Also, you mean Disciples, not Apostles, as Paul was an Apostle hand-picked by Christ.

Acts 9:3-16 is the story of Paul's conversion to Christianity... I find no mention of Homosexuality anywhere in those verses. Again, please find a section where either Jesus or one of his 12 Apostles condemns homosexuality.

I don't think there is one. I don't think Jesus nor any of his Apostles once mentions homosexuality. Is Leviticus rendered null-and-void by the gospels? I am not sure if it is. Jesus made a point of letting everyone know that He was not abolishing the old book but fulfilling it. So who knows?

If you knew what Apostle meant you'd realize from that passage that Paul is an Apostle.

[Romans 1:1 KJV] Paul, a servant of Jesus Christ, called to be an apostle, separated unto the gospel of God,

[1 Corinthians 1:1 KJV] Paul, called to be an apostle of Jesus Christ through the will of God, and Sosthenes our brother,

[2 Corinthians 1:1 KJV] Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, and Timothy our brother, unto the church of God which is at Corinth, with all the saints which are in all Achaia:

[Galatians 1:1 KJV] Paul, an apostle, (not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, and God the Father, who raised him from the dead;)

[Ephesians 1:1 KJV] Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, to the saints which are at Ephesus, and to the faithful in Christ Jesus:

[Colossians 1:1 KJV] Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, and Timotheus our brother,

[1 Timothy 1:1 KJV] Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the commandment of God our Saviour, and Lord Jesus Christ, which is our hope;

[2 Timothy 1:1 KJV] Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, according to the promise of life which is in Christ Jesus,

[Titus 1:1 KJV] Paul, a servant of God, and an apostle of Jesus Christ, according to the faith of God's elect, and the acknowledging of the truth which is after godliness;