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23 Dec 2005, 5:43 pm

i agree
god means nothing to me either


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23 Dec 2005, 5:45 pm

i have said it once and ill say it again

god means nothing to me
FACT IS THEIR IS NO GOD NOR SATAN OR HEVAN AND HELL



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23 Dec 2005, 5:48 pm

G.O.D. = Grand Oral Deciminator

(if you've heard Reverence by Faithless you know what I'm saying...)


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23 Dec 2005, 5:54 pm

Asparval wrote:
That's a double negative ~ means the same thing.

Nothing

you passed


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23 Dec 2005, 5:58 pm

TheViking wrote:
i have said it once and ill say it again

god means nothing to me
FACT IS THEIR IS NO GOD NOR SATAN OR HEVAN AND HELL



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Perhaps these views above may be correct.

But your views on the teachings of the Bible are not. (aside the ideas you stated above)
If you were to read the bible it makes sense, in terms of how a person could live a good life.
Also, i believe in its morality as a great foundation to rear a family.


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23 Dec 2005, 7:40 pm

SB2 wrote:
TheViking wrote:
i have said it once and ill say it again

god means nothing to me
FACT IS THEIR IS NO GOD NOR SATAN OR HEVAN AND HELL



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Perhaps these views above may be correct.

But your views on the teachings of the Bible are not. (aside the ideas you stated above)
If you were to read the bible it makes sense, in terms of how a person could live a good life.
Also, i believe in its morality as a great foundation to rear a family.


i never wasted my time on the bible
its to long to read and i want tall tales id rent a dumb disney movie (i hate disney movies)


no offence


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23 Dec 2005, 8:11 pm

No offense taken.
i do not Disney crap either. Except Alladin.
i always considered myself to be a diamond in the rough.

Although i question your ability to speak (smartly) on matters of the Bible, seeing as how you have not wasted your time.

Have you wasted your time reading other books on philosophy?


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23 Dec 2005, 8:39 pm

is that an isualt?


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23 Dec 2005, 8:57 pm

bible is really nothing but lies
for example nohwa s ark
well how can god speak to nohwa when he dosent exist if nohwa exicited then chances are he was screwed up in the head
if im correct the bible said he got every animal on his ship
thats a lie because how can you get a every single animal in excitince
and if god said he would never kill somebody with a flood or anything to kill alot of people like that
then how can you explain:
911
Tsunami back in 2004
The Holocaust
Hurricane Katrina
Hurricane Andrew
etc.etc.
the bible is a waste of trees


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24 Dec 2005, 1:15 am

I think you're confusing natural disasters with man-made ones. Which is which? In what other books of the Bible are these issues addressed? Job? Ecclesiastes? The New Testament? If you're going to postulate that Noah may have been insane, then that at least requires him to be real. Are you saying you believe the story of Noah's Ark to have been based on an actual event or not? And more importantly, when was Genesis written, by whom, and for what audience? What does it say about the culture who wrote it? What are the metaphysical and spiritual implications of it? How do these compare with other religions and mythologies? Why are these studied even by non-believers? What are the various ways in which the religious interpret it and why is it important to them?

The issues involving the Bible aren't black and white. Either way, though, it doesn't matter. By refusing to read the Bible and analysing it from a neutral perspective, you're limiting your statements to the collective appropriation of metal cliches, and believe me, almost none of them have had anything insightful to say about religion.


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24 Dec 2005, 1:47 am

Not an insult, you may view it however you wish, free choice and all.

my free choice includes not taking serious, any statement, on any topic, by any person, who does not take a moment to at least try to understand what they are making these statements about.

by your own admission you said that you do not really know what the Bible teaches, you have not taken the time, nor have the desire.

To which, my statement was that if you didn't, then you don't really have a basis for debate.

the old sayin, "know your enemy"

if you are that opposed to the Bible, then you should better understand it, you would then have a better basis for your statements.


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24 Dec 2005, 8:19 am

but arnt natual causes caused by "god" i think the bible say he does everything
and he said he wouldnt do something like that again but it happend
wich makes him a lie
i dont belive in anything that bible says
as one man said
"I Keep The Bible In A Pool Of Blood So None Of Its Lies Can Effect Me"


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24 Dec 2005, 3:08 pm

viking wrote,

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but arnt natual causes caused by "god


I began by offering up agreement with you and assumed that there was no god.

read way back the posts.

But i went on to state that the Bible (excluding god) is a great foundation to live a good life, or to raise a family.

the teachings (lets exclude god, again) make solid reasonable sense.
i asked that you would look at the morality taught within, based only upon its own merits.


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25 Dec 2005, 3:54 pm

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[sarcasm]I also think atheists excuse themselves from lying, that they say there is no god to remove all moral absolutes they don't like and thus reduce personal responsibility to justify their own selfishness...if they are living this lie they can lie about anything else.[/sarcasm]

hah ok touche but i try to follow some christian morals until they use it to justify war but then i still do not believe in a god and i am not against war just the religious justification of.

thing about god is it has to mean something , god would mean nothing if only you never knew or heard of it or him...so do people's belief in god mean nothing to you? well than thats good for you cause someone who does not believe in god has an opinion of god or of those that do believe.



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28 Dec 2005, 5:16 pm

i think the bible is a worthless book
what a waste of trees
im mean what does old guys with beards slaughtering camels have anything to do with todays world?(retorical question)
god means nothing
religion is one big lie


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28 Dec 2005, 5:23 pm

That's a tough one even for a believer!

Beyond the usual stuff of seeing him in a loved one or the kindness of a stranger or a beautiful sunset...

He means I feel protected and things will turn out right no matter what, as long as I do what I know is right, which isn't necessarily what I want at the moment.

He's what liberated me from a future that would have been a stunted, lifelong perpetual childhood and gave me the guts to set out on my own... and keep at it even though I failed over and over.

(And the 'God' some use to keep people in such a state is a sham - something that deserves to be hated.)

Like George Burns said as God in the movie, 'You may not believe in me but I believe in you'.

I believe in him.