White Phosphorus Anyone?

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Yeah, but at the same time, I'm really not up for seeing really gushy photos of people on this website. There are other websites that I can go to if I feel compelled to see that type of stuff. --Also, there is a sizable contingent of people on this site that are considered children, and even if they may not be offended by it per se, their parents most assuredly will.

Fogman, I didn't get chance to see the photos before the censor swooped, as it were. I don't believe in showing "offensive" stuff just to offend, or for people to gawp at; but, I don't think sheltering people from what happens in the real world is a good thing, either. This is a "politics, philosophy, and religion" forum, if anything is going to be discussed properly, it would seem inevitable that "adult" topics — like killing people — are going to be on the agenda, and that these will, to varying degrees, be "offensive" to people of a delicate disposition.

But I realise a line has to be drawn somewhere, and that it is up to the moderators (despite their many flaws) to do that. I just felt compelled, on reading those condescending lines from moderator ghotistix, to say something.

Understood.

They celebrate Halloween in Palestine?! Who knew?!
Yes, I know the baby was just "dressed up". In the West, though, people dress up their kids in football kits or superman outfits, i.e, as people (real or fictional) the kid might want to emulate. In Palestine, they dress kids up as suicide bombers.
Did you know that Palestinian schools teach their kids to want to grow up to become "shaheed" (martyrs)? Did you know that Palestinians name their streets after suicide bombers? Did you know that Palestinian schools teach their kids about The Protocols Of The Elders Of Zion - a notorious anti-Semitic hoax from 19th century Russia - as if it was historical fact? Did you know that maps in Palestinian schoolbooks do not even acknowledge the existence of Israel?
The fact that someone would dress their kid up as a suicide bomber is further evidence of the depraved culture of death that has developed in Palestine, which I frankly do find more disturbing than a photo of an Israeli soldier kicking someone.



There aren't any Palestinian children in Israel. You'll find Palestinian children in Gaza and the West Bank, i.e., the Disputed Territories. Do you not even know this?



I said I am prepared to believe that the photo depicts what you claim. My point is that it's easy to take photos out of context and use them as propaganda.
And since you also claim that Palestinians live in Israel and celebrate Halloween, I think I have a right to question other "facts" you present.



I wouldn't particularly like to see those things, but I imagine you would. I would be interested to know if you have any such pictures though. If you can't post them, maybe you can direct me to them.
Do you have any such pictures? I doubt it.

I'm sorry, but when you come out with insane statements like "the Israelies are racists who won't stop till they have destroyed Muslims world wide", then presenting a photo of an Israeli soldier kicking a woman on the ground as "evidence" is lame.

Certain British soldiers have done far worse things to tourists in Cyprus (somewhere somewhat safer than Palestine). It's disgusting that they have, but they have been disciplned, and it still doesn't detract from the fact that the general conduct of the British Army is morally superior to that of, say, Palestinian terrorists or Al Qaeda "insurgents" or "militias" in places like Sudan, Congo and Nigeria.



The bulldozer was not there to destroy homes. It was there to destroy a tunnel that was being used to smuggle arms from Egypt into Gaza. Some of these tunnels led into homes. The International Solidarity Movement obviously think protecting Palestinian property (i.e., arms-smuggling tunnels) is more important than saving Israeli lives.



And yet in the photo you posted, Rachel Corrie is wearing a bright orange jacket and no headscarf. Oops!



Rachel Corrie fell from the mound she was standing on. She ended up in the bulldozer's blind spot and received a fatal blow to the head.
I have seen pictures of Rachel Corrie after the incident. She had bruises to the face and a bloody nose. She looked very different to how she would if she'd been run over twice. Her clothing was all intact, and she looked very un-flat.
It was a tragic accident, not murder.

By the way, Happeh scoffed at me for questioning his use of photos, but the "Rachel Corrie in front of bulldozer" photo he posted is part of a well-known propaganda piece. It was presented by the ISM as part of a pair: before and after, with the "after" photo showing the bulldozer driving away after Corrie had been run over. Except the photos showed completely different bulldozers! I won't post the "after" photo, but you can find it on the net.

There is currently a play on in London celebrating Corrie's life, called "My Name Is Rachel Corrie". So much for the Jews controlling the media and the entertainment industry.
As Tom Gross said, here are some plays you won't be seeing in the West End soon:



By all means, Happeh, keep posting more BS. I for one will never report anyone to the moderators.
God, life is too short though to respond to all Happeh's nutty theories. Elsewhere on this board he's claimed that Steven Hawking's disability is the result of some sinister experiment to make humans like machines, and that masturbation makes you blind and crippled.

At first I suspected it was all a big joke. But it seems not; Happeh actually believes this stuff.

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Shock tactics? The woman is dead. Without photos, Klytus would claim I was making it up.

I am sorry if reality offends people. I will, of course, abide by the forums rules now that you have pointed them out.

Everyone needs to be woken up so they move on with their life. I work with everyone.

One of my instructors used to say "I am a friend to both good and evil".

I always thought that was dramatic, but it does accurately describe my outlook on life.

What I do not understand is why photos that come from website newspapers are so bad. The newspaper printed them. They must meet established journalistic guidelines.

My experience is that it is gory photos that make western countries look bad that are offensive. The Rachel Corrie photo made Israel look bad. I posted an Iraq photo in another forum that made Americans look bad. It came from a newspaper. The people there were upset too.

I think it is people thinking they will be labled disloyal if they allow pictures of reality to break the veil of fantasy constructed by Tony Bliar and George Bush and Ariel Sharon that currently controls the world news.

I think it is allowed for me to say that, in my opinion, you are a professional liar. Everything in that post was false, or you twisted away from the point made to make a different point.

It is a waste of time to talk to you. You are not here to maybe have your mind changed. You are here to press an agenda.

Would I? That's just hypothesizing. It's well established that Rachel Corrie was killed by an Israeli bulldozer. Do you seriously think I'd deny that without your photos?
What I deny is the truth of your account of the event.



I don't think anyone on this message board is worried about that. There's plenty of anti-Bush, anti-Blair and anti-Sharon material on WrongPlanet. I posted a photograph of a public lynching in Palestine - nothing to do with the USA, the UK or Israel - and that was deleted too.

Therefore, Bush is out of line even going into Iraq and interfering with another culture. Bush believes God told him to go to Iraq!!

You'd think that God would be perfectly capable of going to Iraq himself, wouldn't you really, instead of having to get some redneck hick to do it for him..... I mean, its not even as though he'd have to go very far, being omnipresent and all..... Lazy flipping bone idle deities eh? Pfff....


Oh God, only 2 posts back and I'm reverting to formulaic TAFKASH-ist posts already...... So much for all the brand new material I spent all that time working on developing during my recent world tour.... The "Take my Mother-in-Law..... please..... Except you can't, because I obviously could never have been married being a saddo aspie with no life and all....." gags just never quite cut it through all the "Ferret, Whippet (and Associated Northern Stereotype) Fancier's Social Club" gigs though unfortunately. I suppose I'm a bit like "Pink Floyd", doomed to have to play all the hoary, 30 year old material forever to my legions of fossilised, ossified fans, never able to try anything new...... *sigh* Shine on you crazy etcs...... Did I mention yet what I think about God by the way? I did? Bummer...... Oh well.... Tum tee tum...... *whistles*........ What about that weather then, eh? Tsk........ La la la.... Peter Crouch still not scoring you say, well I never...... My, my, my...... Fancy......

OK then, look! D'you think anybody'd notice if I just circumvented the middle man and just cut and pasted some of me old posts instead? Everybody'd be chuffed beyond measure then, I've every confidence. Win win scenario all the way! Whaddya say, me old china? Eh? Eh? You know you want to..... Go on...... I'll be your friend...... Pwetty pwease? *flutters eyelashes alluringly*

P.S. Yes I am bored and in a funny mood tonight.....

Was it funny? When I realized it was a waste of time, I ignored it.

Amazing how a discussion on White Phosphorous turns into a bunch of ethnic bashing.
I want to see what a discussion on Napalm looks like.

Well what ever transpired, or didnt transpire between him and God must have with our Congress, they were behind him in the begining. But I have to admit, if Bush was serious that God TOLD him to goforth, and it wasnt some PR tactic, then I'd have to wonder why exactly God choose him and not Israel. I mean, arent the Jews said to be "God's People" (note that Im making that comment in jest).
I seriously doubt that such a comment as you say he made (and franky I dont remember that one right off the top of my head so Ill have to look it up) was anything more than a PR stunt as polititians are prone to do.

Napalm doesn't work well in the desert. You could use it in cities if you drop it in patterns to consume the oxygen in a given area, but you would have to try and evacuate as many noncombatants from the city as possible before the strike. Fallujah was one place that a napalm strike might have worked with some success.

Either way, did anyone ever nomintate her for a Darwin Award? If not maybe I should. If she won, maybe they might give me a shirt. That would be great for wearing to church!