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27 Jan 2009, 8:24 pm

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My experience from decades of watching the Middle East is that all military parties are usually guilty of contributing to the slaughter, with very few exceptions. The innocents are trampled by zealots of all persuasions.


Such is the nature of modern warfare. Large numbers of collateral casualties are inevitable. The only sane thing to do is get used to it.

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27 Jan 2009, 8:28 pm

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Such is the nature of modern warfare. Large numbers of collateral casualties are inevitable. The only sane thing to do is get used to it.

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29 Jan 2009, 9:33 am

Orwell wrote:
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Such is the nature of modern warfare. Large numbers of collateral casualties are inevitable. The only sane thing to do is get used to it.

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"It is no measure of health to be well-adjusted to a profoundly sick society." -Krishnamurti


That would be true if health could be restored and maintained. But what if it can't?

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29 Jan 2009, 10:38 am

Orwell wrote:
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Such is the nature of modern warfare. Large numbers of collateral casualties are inevitable. The only sane thing to do is get used to it.

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"It is no measure of health to be well-adjusted to a profoundly sick society." -Krishnamurti


Well, there's well-adjusted, and there's well-adjusted.
A person accepting that this may be the best of all possible worlds is a lot more sane than believing, for example, that life is actually fair and the world is a wonderful place.


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29 Jan 2009, 1:54 pm

Ragtime wrote:
Orwell wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
Such is the nature of modern warfare. Large numbers of collateral casualties are inevitable. The only sane thing to do is get used to it.

ruveyn

"It is no measure of health to be well-adjusted to a profoundly sick society." -Krishnamurti


Well, there's well-adjusted, and there's well-adjusted.
A person accepting that this may be the best of all possible worlds is a lot more sane than believing, for example, that life is actually fair and the world is a wonderful place.


No one is saying that life is fair - the real question: Is unfair fair? Well adjusted people often answer yes.



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29 Jan 2009, 2:35 pm

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O that reminds me of 3 years ago:



Just replace Hizbullah with Hamas and Lebanon with Gaza and you get the same story.


Of course. You always get the same story when you hate Jews. You always know who's guilty in any conflict involving them.

When you hate a people involved in a conflict, the verdict is always easy, and even determinable before evidence is seen:
The people you hate are the guilty ones. So, I guess hate is like omniscience except for the accuracy level.


I do not hate Jews.




Really? Since most of your posts suggest that you do hate Jews, and very much so, perhaps you would like to set the record straight here and now as to how you feel about them? Not for my benefit, mind you, but for the gullible.


Ok bull, let's play this game: Just quote one single post of mine that shows hatred toward Jews. I challenge you. C'mon do your search.



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30 Jan 2009, 1:33 pm

*bump* I am waiting,Ragtime.



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30 Jan 2009, 5:04 pm

LePetitPrince wrote:
*bump* I am waiting,Ragtime.


Yay! let's corner him. :rambo:

Still waiting on a reply.

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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykmv7s-Q0J8[/youtube]

Ragtime is it appropriate for this young Israel settler to brag about how the Jews killed Jesus?

I don't think that is appropriate behavour. :o



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03 Feb 2009, 10:26 am

I will keep bumping this thread till you reply Ragtime. I didn't forget yet.



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05 Feb 2009, 6:03 pm

Ragtiiiime, where are you hun?



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06 Feb 2009, 2:31 am

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^Well Israel has the right to protect itself and defend itself from foreign (Basic right of any sovereign nation). The same concept is with the US with its War on Terrorism. Israel is basically protecting its borders. Civilians will always be in harm's way during wars and conflicts.


In the eyes of the world, Israel can do no right. What really shocks me is how muslim arab states are more tolerant of the presence of christians in the middle east than jews. For instance, Saudi Arabia bars jews from entering the country, but they DO give work visa's to christians and hindu's.



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06 Feb 2009, 3:13 am

JerryHatake wrote:
^Well Israel has the right to protect itself and defend itself from foreign (Basic right of any sovereign nation). The same concept is with the US with its War on Terrorism. Israel is basically protecting its borders. Civilians will always be in harm's way during wars and conflicts.


It is debatable that the land that Israel is "defending' is actually Palestinian land that Israel took in excess of the UN mandate.


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06 Feb 2009, 12:13 pm

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In the eyes of the world, Israel can do no right. What really shocks me is how muslim arab states are more tolerant of the presence of christians in the middle east than jews. For instance, Saudi Arabia bars jews from entering the country, but they DO give work visa's to christians and hindu's.


Non Jews also get visas and work permits in Israel. Fundie preachers, however, are not welcome. Israel in no way prohibits Christians staying their legally from going to church and worshiping. There are hundreds of churches in Israel. How many churches are there in Saudi Arabia?

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