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07 Feb 2009, 12:26 pm

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We've been annoying God -or displeasing Him- for some time now. How else to explain all the fires, floods, earthquakes, hurricanes, famines, plagues etc.? All these natural disasters are proportional to how much sin and evil exists in the world today.


lol but I thought that God should be perfect and shouldn't lose his temper like that, or he's not?


Than according to the Old Testament god is far from being perfect - in this collection of book is piss-off the most time, often just by people having some fun (--> Sodom).



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07 Feb 2009, 1:19 pm

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Than according to the Old Testament god is far from being perfect - in this collection of book is piss-off the most time, often just by people having some fun (--> Sodom).

well, if God is perfect, then those actions must be perfect, and if man is imperfect, he sees those actions as imperfect with imperfect eyes.


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07 Feb 2009, 1:45 pm

The Sodomites and Gomorrans were having fun in all kinds of ways, oh yeah. :roll:



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14 Feb 2009, 2:57 pm

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We've been annoying God -or displeasing Him- for some time now. How else to explain all the fires, floods, earthquakes, hurricanes, famines, plagues etc.? All these natural disasters are proportional to how much sin and evil exists in the world today.


indeed, how else? they just appear out of nowhere breaking all possible laws of physics, biology and reason.

:lol: :lol:


:lmao:


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14 Feb 2009, 5:16 pm

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We've been annoying God -or displeasing Him- for some time now. How else to explain all the fires, floods, earthquakes, hurricanes, famines, plagues etc.? All these natural disasters are proportional to how much sin and evil exists in the world today.
You've got to be kidding.


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14 Feb 2009, 5:40 pm

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We've been annoying God -or displeasing Him- for some time now. How else to explain all the fires, floods, earthquakes, hurricanes, famines, plagues etc.? All these natural disasters are proportional to how much sin and evil exists in the world today.
You've got to be kidding.


Kidding? No. Why would I kid about this?



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14 Feb 2009, 5:50 pm

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We've been annoying God -or displeasing Him- for some time now. How else to explain all the fires, floods, earthquakes, hurricanes, famines, plagues etc.? All these natural disasters are proportional to how much sin and evil exists in the world today.
You've got to be kidding.


Kidding? No. Why would I kid about this?


Of course he's not kidding. The entire meteorological apparatus of the world is actually controlled by the Vatican.



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14 Feb 2009, 5:53 pm

Sand wrote:
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We've been annoying God -or displeasing Him- for some time now. How else to explain all the fires, floods, earthquakes, hurricanes, famines, plagues etc.? All these natural disasters are proportional to how much sin and evil exists in the world today.
You've got to be kidding.


Kidding? No. Why would I kid about this?


Of course he's not kidding. The entire meteorological apparatus of the world is actually controlled by the Vatican.


I was just about to say that.



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14 Feb 2009, 5:57 pm

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We've been annoying God -or displeasing Him- for some time now. How else to explain all the fires, floods, earthquakes, hurricanes, famines, plagues etc.? All these natural disasters are proportional to how much sin and evil exists in the world today.

But, but, how come he does not exterminate us? he could just destroy the sun or make a big comet to crash on earth or a similar disaster, why he does not? I would! I probably would be more pleased with the other species than those bloody humans.


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14 Feb 2009, 5:58 pm

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The Sodomites and Gomorrans were having fun in all kinds of ways, oh yeah. :roll:

Like... having sex?


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14 Feb 2009, 6:05 pm

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The Sodomites and Gomorrans were having fun in all kinds of ways, oh yeah. :roll:

Like... having sex?


It wasn't just the sex. S & G had descended into total lawlessness and depravity, like a 1st century version of Los Angeles.



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14 Feb 2009, 6:22 pm

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It wasn't just the sex. S & G had descended into total lawlessness and depravity, like a 1st century version of Los Angeles.

The more depravity the more fun, so they were indeed having fun and enjoying themselves. But, what exactly is depravity anyway?


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14 Feb 2009, 6:22 pm

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We've been annoying God -or displeasing Him- for some time now. How else to explain all the fires, floods, earthquakes, hurricanes, famines, plagues etc.? All these natural disasters are proportional to how much sin and evil exists in the world today.


Please do not be stupid. Storms are caused by the uneven heating of the earth by the sun and its rotation. Earthquakes and volcanic erruptions are caused by the extreme heat in the interior of the planet. The crust is formed from tectonic plates which have been shifting about for billions of years and will continue to shift until the interior is cooled down (another billion years or so). None of these natural phenomena are caused by gods either angry or good natured.

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14 Feb 2009, 6:52 pm

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We've been annoying God -or displeasing Him- for some time now. How else to explain all the fires, floods, earthquakes, hurricanes, famines, plagues etc.? All these natural disasters are proportional to how much sin and evil exists in the world today.


Please do not be stupid. Storms are caused by the uneven heating of the earth by the sun and its rotation. Earthquakes and volcanic erruptions are caused by the extreme heat in the interior of the planet. The crust is formed from tectonic plates which have been shifting about for billions of years and will continue to shift until the interior is cooled down (another billion years or so). None of these natural phenomena are caused by gods either angry or good natured.

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I strongly doubt that there today more earthquakes, etc. that in earlier parts of history. Out perception of those is just different. On two main reasons:

1) Communication: When anywhere in the world today a natural catastrophe happens it will be the top news worldwide within seconds with horrible picture of destroyed houses and displaced people. Fifty years ago it would be a notice in the newspaper. Such pictures just grave deeper in our perception than a few line in newspaper.

2) Location of Settlements: Because we are more humans by the number, we settle in areas which were not seen fit for settlement before and in larger communities. A village fully destroyed by a earthquake 50 years ago would mean 40 deaths, today the number is 400. When we read the news about the victims of the bushfire in Australia, we had ask also, why they settled there? If there were no dwellings there would be no victims. If you choose the place for a settlement it good to look into the history of this area. If build your city in safe country side (Moscow, Berlin, Paris) than you are on the save side, if you need to build your city in an area with natural catastrophes than you had to make measurements (see Amsterdam and it's extensive dyke and pumping systems) or you will end up like New Orleans (or even worst like Herculaneum and Pompeii).



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14 Feb 2009, 8:02 pm

greenblue wrote:
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It wasn't just the sex. S & G had descended into total lawlessness and depravity, like a 1st century version of Los Angeles.

The more depravity the more fun, so they were indeed having fun and enjoying themselves. But, what exactly is depravity anyway?


Depravity:

the state of being morally corrupt, the absence of anything pure or wholesome.


eg. The Sopranos



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14 Feb 2009, 8:12 pm

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I strongly doubt that there today more earthquakes, etc. that in earlier parts of history. Out perception of those is just different. On two main reasons:



Probably fewer major eruptions, but they are notoriously hard to predict. That last SuperValcano blew about 75,000 years ago in Toba. Since then we have had major eruptions such as Santorini, Vesuvius, Krakatoa. Volcanic activity is very high on the rim of the Pacific Plate, the so-called Ring of Fire of which Mt. St. Helen was a recent example. We live on a restless planet and it will be restless for the next billion years until the interior solidifies.

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