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26 Mar 2009, 4:36 pm

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I find the idea of an interventionist god to be infantile


Primitive beliefs are endemic in much of Africa, the Middle East and Texas. :wink:

I read the other day that the Texas school board are considering banning the teaching of evolution from the curriculum. Nothing like blocking the truth to keep the students ignorant. I'm amazed how parts of America are so backwards.


Thats because evolution is nothing but a lie. It was made up to deceive people. It just isn't possible. I say don't teach it nor the other so the lie isn't put into students heads. I would have gone after my school had they even thought about teaching evolution.
Cause its an insult to the Christians. Thankfully my school accommodates Christians and we can have services before classes and it was awesome.


Looks like you are well and truly brain-washed. You have my pity. Maybe one day you will start asking questions and find out the truth, but I doubt it. There is only one solution to your problem - knowledge. Without knowledge you are still in the dark ages of superstition. Withholding knowledge is standard practice when brainwashing people - a technique used by totalitarian countries and religious fundamentalists (Christian and Islamic) across the world. I can see no further point discussing this with you. My words would be wasted.


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26 Mar 2009, 4:41 pm

Shadowgirl wrote:
Haliphron wrote:
Shadowgirl wrote:
TallyMan wrote:
DentArthurDent wrote:
Shadowgirl wrote:
I find the idea of an interventionist god to be infantile


Primitive beliefs are endemic in much of Africa, the Middle East and Texas. :wink:

I read the other day that the Texas school board are considering banning the teaching of evolution from the curriculum. Nothing like blocking the truth to keep the students ignorant. I'm amazed how parts of America are so backwards.


Thats because evolution is nothing but a lie. It was made up to deceive people. It just isn't possible. I say don't teach it nor the other so the lie isn't put into students heads. I would have gone after my school had they even thought about teaching evolution.
Cause its an insult to the Christians. Thankfully my school accommodates Christians and we can have services before classes and it was awesome.


:lmao:


So tell us exactly WHY evolution isnt possible? Please tell us EXACTLY why a bull mud turn into a living, breathing, human(or ANY living creature) without violating BOTH the 1st and 2nd laws of Thermodynamics? And no, the god works in mysterious ways is NOT an explanation! Its bullsh1t artistry.


OK smart guy I'll just start by asking how do you think life started?
How are we here?

Think before you answer.


The belief that order and complexity cannot come about naturally is an intuitive view. How life started is NOT KNOWN at the present time. However, if YOU think you know how life started than YOU BEAR THE BURDEN OF DEMONSTRATING IT!
And just so you know, quotting a BOOK(even if its the Goddamn bible) DOES NOT PROVE ANYTHING.
Now answer me THIS: Can God make a stone so big that he couldnt lift it?



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26 Mar 2009, 4:42 pm

TallyMan wrote:
Shadowgirl wrote:
TallyMan wrote:
DentArthurDent wrote:
Shadowgirl wrote:
I find the idea of an interventionist god to be infantile


Primitive beliefs are endemic in much of Africa, the Middle East and Texas. :wink:

I read the other day that the Texas school board are considering banning the teaching of evolution from the curriculum. Nothing like blocking the truth to keep the students ignorant. I'm amazed how parts of America are so backwards.


Thats because evolution is nothing but a lie. It was made up to deceive people. It just isn't possible. I say don't teach it nor the other so the lie isn't put into students heads. I would have gone after my school had they even thought about teaching evolution.
Cause its an insult to the Christians. Thankfully my school accommodates Christians and we can have services before classes and it was awesome.


Looks like you are well and truly brain-washed. You have my pity. Maybe one day you will start asking questions and find out the truth, but I doubt it. There is only one solution to your problem - knowledge. Without knowledge you are still in the dark ages of superstition. Withholding knowledge is standard practice when brainwashing people - a technique used by totalitarian countries and religious fundamentalists (Christian and Islamic) across the world. I can see no further point discussing this with you. My words would be wasted.


I resent that remark.

I don't need your pity.
There is more freedom in it then many of you realize.
You sound just like Madalyn Murray O'Hair!

Yeah its just a waste coming from you.


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26 Mar 2009, 5:01 pm

Shadowgirl wrote:
TallyMan wrote:
Shadowgirl wrote:
TallyMan wrote:
DentArthurDent wrote:
Shadowgirl wrote:
I find the idea of an interventionist god to be infantile


Primitive beliefs are endemic in much of Africa, the Middle East and Texas. :wink:

I read the other day that the Texas school board are considering banning the teaching of evolution from the curriculum. Nothing like blocking the truth to keep the students ignorant. I'm amazed how parts of America are so backwards.


Thats because evolution is nothing but a lie. It was made up to deceive people. It just isn't possible. I say don't teach it nor the other so the lie isn't put into students heads. I would have gone after my school had they even thought about teaching evolution.
Cause its an insult to the Christians. Thankfully my school accommodates Christians and we can have services before classes and it was awesome.


Looks like you are well and truly brain-washed. You have my pity. Maybe one day you will start asking questions and find out the truth, but I doubt it. There is only one solution to your problem - knowledge. Without knowledge you are still in the dark ages of superstition. Withholding knowledge is standard practice when brainwashing people - a technique used by totalitarian countries and religious fundamentalists (Christian and Islamic) across the world. I can see no further point discussing this with you. My words would be wasted.


I resent that remark.

I don't need your pity.
There is more freedom in it then many of you realize.
You sound just like Madalyn Murray O'Hair!

Yeah its just a waste coming from you.



If evolution were mere conjecture there might be a problem establishing its validity but it is a working principle in biology and clearly explains not only the changes in the ancestry of all living creatures in the past to the present but also indicates how creatures are changing today to adapt to new conditions and these changes can be seen and measured from day to day. There is sufficient information floating through the net to inform yourself properly and your statement indicates that you are not only uninformed as to how life operates but have not the capacity to inform yourself properly from quarters that are active in the area. This is not an attempt at insult, merely an evaluation from your statements.



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26 Mar 2009, 5:52 pm

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OK smart guy I'll just start by asking how do you think life started?
How are we here?

Think before you answer.


This is what the computer game Civilization had to say on the subject:

Civilization wrote:
In the beginning,
the Earth was without form,
and void.
But the Sun shone upon the sleeping Earth
and deep inside the brittle crust
massive forces waited to be unleashed.
The seas parted
and great continents were formed.
The continents shifted, mountains arose.
Earthquakes spawned massive tidal waves.
Volcanoes erupted
and spewed forth fiery lava
and charged the atmosphere
with strange gases.
Into this swirling maelstrom
of Fire and Air and Water
the first stirrings of Life appeared:
tiny organisms, cells, and amoeba,
clinging to tiny sheltered habitats.
But the seeds of Life grew,
and strengthened, and spread,
and diversified,
and prospered,
and soon every continent and climate
teemed with Life.
And with Life came instinct,
and specialization, natural selection,
Reptiles, Dinosaurs, and Mammals
and finally there evolved a species
known as Man
and there appeared
the first faint glimmers of
Intelligence.
The fruits of intelligence were many:
fire, tools, and weapons,
the hunt, farming, and the sharing of food,
the family, the village, and the tribe.
Now it required but one more ingredient:
a great Leader
to unite the quarreling tribes
to harness the power of the land
to build a legacy
that would stand the test of time:
a CIVILIZATION!



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26 Mar 2009, 5:56 pm

McTell wrote:
Shadowgirl wrote:

OK smart guy I'll just start by asking how do you think life started?
How are we here?

Think before you answer.


This is what the computer game Civilization had to say on the subject:

Civilization wrote:
In the beginning,
the Earth was without form,
and void.
But the Sun shone upon the sleeping Earth
and deep inside the brittle crust
massive forces waited to be unleashed.
The seas parted
and great continents were formed.
The continents shifted, mountains arose.
Earthquakes spawned massive tidal waves.
Volcanoes erupted
and spewed forth fiery lava
and charged the atmosphere
with strange gases.
Into this swirling maelstrom
of Fire and Air and Water
the first stirrings of Life appeared:
tiny organisms, cells, and amoeba,
clinging to tiny sheltered habitats.
But the seeds of Life grew,
and strengthened, and spread,
and diversified,
and prospered,
and soon every continent and climate
teemed with Life.
And with Life came instinct,
and specialization, natural selection,
Reptiles, Dinosaurs, and Mammals
and finally there evolved a species
known as Man
and there appeared
the first faint glimmers of
Intelligence.
The fruits of intelligence were many:
fire, tools, and weapons,
the hunt, farming, and the sharing of food,
the family, the village, and the tribe.
Now it required but one more ingredient:
a great Leader
to unite the quarreling tribes
to harness the power of the land
to build a legacy
that would stand the test of time:
a CIVILIZATION!

Aye, Civilization IV used to be one of my favourite games. Too bad it's so incredibly unrealistic. I liked the Rhye's and Fall of Civilization mod, though.


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26 Mar 2009, 6:07 pm

Och, I was quoting the original one. The fourth one just reused the intro. I was playing RFC today actually, for the first time.

(Apologies for going off-topic)



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26 Mar 2009, 6:18 pm

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PLEASE MAKE JESUS CHRIST YOUR LORD AND SAVIOR AND CONFESS YOUR SINS TO HIM IN PRAYER. HE WANTS TO SAVE YOU FROM HELL AND SATAN


Stop taking drugs.



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26 Mar 2009, 8:14 pm

What is wrong with most of you?



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26 Mar 2009, 9:04 pm

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What is wrong with most of you?


You're starving us of the proof you clearly must possess, if you are able to claim lacking your religion is a wrong position to be in.



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26 Mar 2009, 10:17 pm

I am a Christian. What are all of you? I didn't come here to start an arguement. Sorry :(



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26 Mar 2009, 10:25 pm

Christian, something along the lines of Christian Existentialism with some Open Theism thrown in. I'm not really sure exactly what it fits into. Not really sure I care, either.



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26 Mar 2009, 10:29 pm

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I am a Christian. What are all of you? I didn't come here to start an arguement. Sorry :(


Oh, it's alright I'm sure. It's just that most people don't like being told that they are wrong and that it is obvious when to them it does not seem obvious.

There are quite a few Christians on this board though.

Incidentally, this is the argument board though. Anything posted here will become an argument.



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26 Mar 2009, 10:33 pm

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Anything posted here will become an argument.

Like hell it will. That's a vicious and demeaning caricature :cry:


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26 Mar 2009, 10:38 pm

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Like hell it will. That's a vicious and demeaning caricature :cry:

twoshots, that is absolutely false. There is not one good reason why something wouldn't become an argument here, and I will debate you to the death over that. :P



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26 Mar 2009, 10:44 pm

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Like hell it will. That's a vicious and demeaning caricature :cry:


I think that's debatable.