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I think rabid leftists who see racism everywhere are more of a danger. Afterall, you're the only person in this thread so far to talk of a planet-wide cull of those whose views you disagree with.

We do normally think of Britain as belonging to white European peoples, but Britain was built on immigrants, just as many other nations were. Why are people so hostile now?

Of course, there's also ruveyn.

Yes, I can imagine. I don't specifically recall him expounding views on extermination in this thread, but I'll have to go back and check.

An important point is that these Muslims are concentrated in certain parts of the country, and there are over 2 million of them.

As you may be aware, if you drive through certain cities over here, in some areas almost everyone will be wearing the dress of Islamic countries.

If you're a white European you're going to feel uneasy.

as many don't even have the courtesy to speak the Queen's English.

BTW: In recent years the largest group of emigrant were people from Poland. They left their trace even in mainstream supermarkets, where since a few years sauerkraut, milk-soured gherkins and other stuff from Poland appeared.

I don't.

And the job centre, too, where the long queue of British folk are a direct result of cheap Polish labour that the EU dictates we must allow in to the country.

At first any British Citizen (with a very few exception from the Channel Island, Falklands etc.) is entitled to work anywhere in EU. British Builder are e.g. a common feature on German building sites.

I doubt you'll see many British builders in Germany now, it's probably all Poles -- cheaper, like I said.

Anyway, most people here don't want to travel to another country to work. Why the hell should they? This is a major problem with this whole idea of a EU superstate. It's assumed that the removal of borders, and forcing people to move long distances from where they have roots in order to get work is a good thing. To most it's not, and if given a choice would tell our EU masters where to go. We're not a commodity that can be shipped around to balance the books of some corrupt EU bureaucrat, and we don't want the entitlements as a citizen of the EU that you write of, Dussel.

Do you speak as a member of an overwhelming majority? On what basis?

I doubt you'll see many British builders in Germany now, it's probably all Poles -- cheaper, like I said.

Anyway, most people here don't want to travel to another country to work. Why the hell should they? This is a major problem with this whole idea of a EU superstate. It's assumed that the removal of borders, and forcing people to move long distances from where they have roots in order to get work is a good thing.

To most it's not, and if given a choice would tell our EU masters where to go. We're not a commodity that can be shipped around to balance the books of some corrupt EU bureaucrat,

and we don't want the entitlements as a citizen of the EU that you write of, Dussel.

A lot of people over here question how much power the EU have.

A lot of people over here question how much power the EU have. Certainly a sizeable proportion of the population think we should get out, whilst a sizeable majority at least have concerns. There have been opinion polls conducted on this, so you could find them if you want. As for my assertion that most people don't want to travel to another country to find work, I think that stands to reason.

Where is "over here"? And it doesn't stand to my reason. People in the USA migrate to work all the time.

Britain. And yes, I'm sure many Americans do, but most would prefer not to.

Thus far you haven't made any correct statements.

How hard is it to believe that people can be of such opinions without indoctrination?

I've seen alot, and history tells us that racism is often incited as a means of oppressing others, or a defence mechanism when you feel threatened or discontented. You have to try and assert your own cultural/racial/national superiority in order to justify your continued dominance.

In this case, you feel threatened because you believe your homeland, which you feel very strong ties to, is under siege by immigrant invaders. That's understandable. However, you aren't exactly being kicked out. The bigger problem is overpopulation, not which ethnicity or mainstream religion people belong to. As far as the population is concerned, you're deluding yourself if you think that non-Europeans are going to become the majority in the forseeable long-term.
We do normally think of Britain as belonging to white European peoples, but Britain was built on immigrants, just as many other nations were. Why are people so hostile now? Mainly because of the distance and large cultural gaps, I suppose.

Ethnic West European immigrants wouldn't raise an eyebrow, would they? They might be able to settle well in Britain and people wouldn't care much if they became a large minority.

You're afraid that white people will become a minority and your own culture will be displaced. The first won't happen for a long time if ever, and British culture is only being mildly neutralised because of a demoralised populace and government feebleness. The lack of cohesiveness and weakened sense of nationality is due to internal, not external issues.]



So, we do have a somewhat divided society. I've seen myself the way that ethnic groups are divided. Immigrants will often keep to themselves, true. One problem is that we don't acknowledge this; we sidestep the issue. Tradition often dictates that Middle Eastern immigrants adopt cultural practises which are alien to mainstream British culture(such as hijaab, different cuisine, different traditions). You see Muslims stay together in tightly-knit communities where they can feel united. Why does this happen, I wonder? Mainly because traditional Islam is excluded from many institutions, and those which feel more loyal to their religion or homeland are more likely to stay in such communities, whereas immigrants set on building a new life and becoming British citizens - often younger people with less cultural bias and fewer ties to established subgroups, may integrate flawlessly.
I think it's also hard for immigrants who come here to keep their homeland culture intact. If you've read around you might know that older, first generation immigrants who have children struggle to keep up traditions outside of their urban communities, whilst facing discrimination from suspicious Ethnic Anglo-Saxons. It works both ways, in a sense.