The tea party protests, your opinion please...

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eating crow.

People are misunderstanding the political spectrum in this thread. Instead of seeing politics as a line, it is more effective to see it as a 3-D cube.

The three axis are :

Social conservative - Social liberal
Economic conservative - Economic liberal
Statist - Libertarian

It is this simplistic view of politics that leads so many to misunderstand the core of the Tea Party Protests. Of course there is the ignorant, nasty element that is highlighted in news media, but that is an intellectually dishonest representation.

Well... my parents...my aunts...my uncles...pretty much all went. I was stuck out of town at work but - I did get to make a hat out of tinfoil .

Seriously though, I'm very happy about it. What its all about is exactly this - these are people (I'm one of them) who believes that the constitution held a depth of wisdom that we're pulling ourselves away from, we've been disengaging ourselves from an understanding of history, and sadly we're getting close to repeating it in some far less than useful or helpful ways.

The tea party protestors are for: keeping government small, keeping it limited, keeping deficits minimal or paying them off, they're people who are thirsty for liberty - ie. equality of opportunity preferably over equality of outcome. A country's acceptionalism and prosperity come from its rights to life, liberty, and land - they're three of the most powerful motivational and productive forces in the sphere of human influence.

Yeah....but....uhhuhuhuh....these slapnuts voted for George W Bush who saddled us in two huge wars and started this whole spending spree so...uhhuhuh....they're just a bunch of ret*d koolaid-drinking Limbaugh nuts anyway.......

Glenn Beck actually said something pretty funny...as in he said something....waited a second and finished it up "We're here quite frankly because......Democrats suck...........and Republicans suck". I think everyone acknowledges that the Republican party is just as much of a big government party and sold out the real conservatives further down the tracks. I think, while the tea party protesters are in fact protesting the actions of Turbotax Tim, Hank, Barry, Nancy, and Harry, they're also really trying to make their voices heard so that the only party they really feel they have any recourse to have listen to them and accept them back in - the Republican Party - knows what its alienating. They *want to reform the party* to go back to having a much stronger component in conserative economics. Also, the more of Rush I hear - people really can't slate him for....well.....anymore than visually looking like a socialist's characture of 'the evil capitalist' - everything I heard out of his mouth at CPAC I completely agreed with.

That's just it though - no one expects conservatives not to take jabs at the current administration - its been going around the last 8 years. On the other hand, its really even more an act of them trying to smack the senate and house Republicans, tell them to wake up, and even more so - they're speaking to all the independents out there, hoping to make it a party even more I think that would embrace libertarians more than it does now; as in have the economic and good-of-country issues dominate over many of the specific religious issues.


That said though - people may think its useless but, its like anything else - it seems that way for a bit but, it makes a ripple in the public discourse and consciousness, the very fact that it did make the news has people talking and thinking about the issues they addressed. That's the best that they could hope for and I think its exactly what they wanted.

What's really bizarre is that Obama hasn't been in office for 100 days, but there are still things one could criticize him for. Weird.

The debt was also a big deal in the clinton years. For some reason the debt is only taken seriously when democrats are in office, despite the massive spending of the republican predecessor.

I agree that the debt and deficit are extremely important, I just wish it's something that would get attention all of the time and not just be used as a political weapon to try and thwart democratic administrations. It's so crassly handled that it inevitably leads to another right-left fight.

The debt is to republican politics what the homeless are to democrats. A handy knife.

In my view, compared to the travesty the last president waged on our economy, the current one is doing very well despite not even being in office for 100 days. As for the protesters, I would like to say that they are coming off none to well. I will not debate whether they are in the right or the wrong (Because no matter what is said, Vibrate and Dox are "right" ) however, I would like to point out that there the claim of not being represented is false. compared to 1770, we are extremely well represented (Note I said compared to, not actually) and the abuses suffered under the british tyrannical rule are 100x worse then anything the current president has done so far, actaully the opposite, he has closed down the sites were torture took place.

Its too bad that even with all the protest Sponge-Barack Obama-Pants isn't even listening. Even those other stooges in the system seem to only care about themselves.