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Industrial production eg steel and technology always increase before and during war (sadly), this occured as Hitler got ready for expanding German territory.
Henry Ford may have called himself a socialist but he could be argued to be the arch the capitalist in the USA early 20th century. which is the point that ideologies commonly get changed once power is attained. Trump is transparent in his gaming and spining the suggestible elements of the electorate.
It was not Workers as in Labor, for the Unions were strong, Communists, and parasites on production.
National Socialism was the potential of Industry and the German People, to make Germany Great Again.
It worked, Industrial production and exports went up. Cities were rebuilt with broad avenues, the whole country was connected by the Autobahn, the Mark rose in value, and Germany hosted the 1936 Olympics. 1933 to 1936 was a miracle. Food was cheap and broadly available. Hitler was Time's Man of the Year.
As a byproduct Germany lead the world in Steel Production, Autos, if not more than Ford, faster, better looking, and no speed limit on the Autobahn. Machine Tools, Aircraft, all metal were the new thing, and their Design and Engineering.
Germany was a rapidly rising industrial power, an economic powerhouse, with a strong and healthy population. They had recovered from WWI, and more. Other German speaking people joined them, then Britain and France declared war, again. Same reason as first time, they wanted world business.
I seem to recall Germany invading Poland as the last straw that brought France and England into the war.
Not Poland, Prussia, which had long been Germany, was taken in the peace of WWI, to be given back when war debts were paid, just as lands in France were.
Hitler, Germany said the Allies had agreed that conditions allowed for a reunited Germany, a strong central European State, and when Germans crossed the border into Prussia, England and France declared war.
Germany also found that all the Germans that lived there for hundreds of years had been killed. This genocide and agreeing to reunification and then declaring war set the tone of the whole war.
WWI was when Germany was running a rail line across Austria, Romania, to the Ottoman Turkish Empire, The Arch Duke was killed by a British agent, when Germany came to Austria's aid, England and France declared war.
England and France had their own goals with the Ottoman Turks, and the British and French Mandates over their Empire. It is the root of todays problems in the Middle East.
Now it is Russian support for Iran, Syria, that is the total evil baby eating Hun power of eastern lands that threatens our Freedom to do anything we want, with people not fit to rule themselves.
Laurence of Arabia was an early version of ISIS.
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It was not Workers as in Labor, for the Unions were strong, Communists, and parasites on production.
National Socialism was the potential of Industry and the German People, to make Germany Great Again.
It worked, Industrial production and exports went up. Cities were rebuilt with broad avenues, the whole country was connected by the Autobahn, the Mark rose in value, and Germany hosted the 1936 Olympics. 1933 to 1936 was a miracle. Food was cheap and broadly available. Hitler was Time's Man of the Year.
As a byproduct Germany lead the world in Steel Production, Autos, if not more than Ford, faster, better looking, and no speed limit on the Autobahn. Machine Tools, Aircraft, all metal were the new thing, and their Design and Engineering.
Germany was a rapidly rising industrial power, an economic powerhouse, with a strong and healthy population. They had recovered from WWI, and more. Other German speaking people joined them, then Britain and France declared war, again. Same reason as first time, they wanted world business.
I seem to recall Germany invading Poland as the last straw that brought France and England into the war.
Not Poland, Prussia, which had long been Germany, was taken in the peace of WWI, to be given back when war debts were paid, just as lands in France were.
Hitler, Germany said the Allies had agreed that conditions allowed for a reunited Germany, a strong central European State, and when Germans crossed the border into Prussia, England and France declared war.
Germany also found that all the Germans that lived there for hundreds of years had been killed. This genocide and agreeing to reunification and then declaring war set the tone of the whole war.
WWI was when Germany was running a rail line across Austria, Romania, to the Ottoman Turkish Empire, The Arch Duke was killed by a British agent, when Germany came to Austria's aid, England and France declared war.
England and France had their own goals with the Ottoman Turks, and the British and French Mandates over their Empire. It is the root of todays problems in the Middle East.
Now it is Russian support for Iran, Syria, that is the total evil baby eating Hun power of eastern lands that threatens our Freedom to do anything we want, with people not fit to rule themselves.
Laurence of Arabia was an early version of ISIS.
(Sigh) While life for the German minority in Poland wasn't easy (it rarely is for any minority), the Polish government hardly had killed them. In fact, the dictator of Poland knew better than to piss the Germans off like that. Hitler had originally approached the Polish government with the proposition of invading the Soviet Union together, but the Poles, realizing they would be swallowed up by Germany, had begged off. An enraged Hitler had then made a deal with Stalin to divide Poland, with every intention of then turning his guns on the Soviets.
Arch Duke Ferdinand had been murdered by the Black Hand, which was a Serbian terrorist group probably answering to the Serbian government, which had wanted to break away from Austrian-Hungarian rule. No English assassins involved at all. The Germans did not start WWI; rather, they had been pulled into the conflict simply by honoring their treaty with Austria-Hungary. But they most certainly got the blame for the war, along with severe punishment from the allies, as they were the most powerful antagonist in the conflict. The build up to the war was due to each European nation blustering and sword rattling with nationalistic fervor, whether it was the Germans wanting their "place in the sun," in regard overseas colonies, or how the English were jealous that Germany had surpassed them as an industrial power, or France wanting to avenge their losses in the Franco-Prussian War. They all had contributed to the air of instability in European political affairs, and were all motivated by jealousy and hate.
Blaming Germany for the war, with the humiliating punishments heaped on them by the allies, was completely indefensible. But the fact remains, the Nazis, who had been essentially created by the allied peace, along with their allies in Italy and Japan, had been solely responsible for instigating WWII. Their justifications for the war were hollow pretexts, and their crimes, which will be remembered forever, do little to give those justifications any moral force.
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Their justification for the war was, England and France declared war on them.
England and France did it for the same reason they started WWI, they wanted a monopoly on colonies, trade and industrial power.
The man with a vision of uniting Northern, Southern, and Eastern Europe into an economic union, had his development plan altered by colonial powers who had gobbled up the Ottoman Empire after WWI and had both tried for making Russia a colony.
Germany uniting the East, Romanian oil, Ukraine coal and steel, grain, would have made prosperity from the Baltic to the Black Sea.
The British were behind the Russian Revolution, they had their own plan to make it a colony.
50,000,000 died for British greed.
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England and France did it for the same reason they started WWI, they wanted a monopoly on colonies, trade and industrial power.
The man with a vision of uniting Northern, Southern, and Eastern Europe into an economic union, had his development plan altered by colonial powers who had gobbled up the Ottoman Empire after WWI and had both tried for making Russia a colony.
Germany uniting the East, Romanian oil, Ukraine coal and steel, grain, would have made prosperity from the Baltic to the Black Sea.
The British were behind the Russian Revolution, they had their own plan to make it a colony.
50,000,000 died for British greed.
Or - and this might just be a revolutionary idea - 50,000,000 people might have died because of Hitler's megalomania. That united Europe under Hitler would have included a landscape devoid of people deemed subhumans, as well as one without human liberty and dignity. It would have been a boot stepping on a human face over and over, for eternity.
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So the British saw all this in their future vision, as nothing like that had happened, so they declared war because it was better than any possible peace?
We are declaring war because of what Hitler may do sometime in the future?
The British started a war as the only means they had to prevent the unification of Europe, as the worlds leading economic and industrial power. Same reason they started WWI.
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We are declaring war because of what Hitler may do sometime in the future?
The British started a war as the only means they had to prevent the unification of Europe, as the worlds leading economic and industrial power. Same reason they started WWI.
No, the British and French well knew that the way Hitler was gobbling up his neighbors, it would only be time till they were next. The fact is, they could have stopped Hitler earlier - even with the help of elements of the German officer corps and intelligence, who knew Hitler was dragging their country into disaster - but the allies were too fearful and cowardly. When they finally drew a line in the sand with Poland, the horse had already exited the barn. As for fear of what Hitler would do - - that was in fact no secret, as he and the Nazi party had been expressing their plans to get rid of Jews, Gypsies, the mentally ill and ret*d, and others deemed to be "lives not worthy of life." Hitler's vision was nothing short of a nightmare.
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I saw they not worthy of life movie, stock Eugenics, there were also active groups in England and the USA. Keeping the feeble minded from reproducing had been around for a hundred years, before that they just smothered them.
The film has nothing to do with Hitler, the National Socialists, I think it was from the twenties.
Hitler, Time Man of the Year 1936 wanted to unite all German speakers, into an economic union.
His goal was much like Great Britain uniting the English speakers.
The Danzig Corridor along the Baltic coast was long term German land, and the last piece of Germany to recover from WWI. The British had agreed, then used it as an excuse to declare war.
It was not Hitler, it was a United Germany they declared war on.
Britain were the last people to worry about defectives being killed, their record in India, China, Afghanistan speaks for its self. When they broke the Fuzzy Wussies at Khartoum, they said, 'We had the Maxim Gun, they did not." They machine gunned thousands for defending their homes. Genocide went hand and hand with the Empire.
They also gave Small Pox infected blankets to Native Americans.
The Eugenics film had American and British versions. Eugenics was big science from 1900 to 1925. American States were sterilizing the feeble minded up until the 1970s.
The British plan was playing lets you and him fight, between the Russians and the Germans, and when both were weak, they would take over.
Instead they killed 50,000,000 and lost the Empire.
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The film has nothing to do with Hitler, the National Socialists, I think it was from the twenties.
Hitler, Time Man of the Year 1936 wanted to unite all German speakers, into an economic union.
His goal was much like Great Britain uniting the English speakers.
The Danzig Corridor along the Baltic coast was long term German land, and the last piece of Germany to recover from WWI. The British had agreed, then used it as an excuse to declare war.
It was not Hitler, it was a United Germany they declared war on.
Britain were the last people to worry about defectives being killed, their record in India, China, Afghanistan speaks for its self. When they broke the Fuzzy Wussies at Khartoum, they said, 'We had the Maxim Gun, they did not." They machine gunned thousands for defending their homes. Genocide went hand and hand with the Empire.
They also gave Small Pox infected blankets to Native Americans.
The Eugenics film had American and British versions. Eugenics was big science from 1900 to 1925. American States were sterilizing the feeble minded up until the 1970s.
The British plan was playing lets you and him fight, between the Russians and the Germans, and when both were weak, they would take over.
Instead they killed 50,000,000 and lost the Empire.
Forget the English motivation for the war, for a moment. The fact remains, the Nazis were responsible for genocide, which puts Hitler on the wrong side of history, to say the least.
As for eugenics in America - that was completely indefensible. It's just that the Nazis had taken it a step further when they euthanized undesirables.
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I'm going to go on the record as saying that if ever Donald Trump were to become president of the US, well you can rest assure the idea of an oligarchy would definitely come into play.Also, not forgetting to mention building a wall with all sorts of security features be it drones,infrared detection devices,etc would not really stop the persons making their way across the border in literal terms. Honestly, awhile back it was discovered that people smugglers had created a somewhat crude but effective tunneling system which allowed them to to go right under the border and come up in a border town in on the North American side. Honestly, I simply don't care for someone whom tends to have a biased viewpoint against foreigners or woman cause, the dark ages have passed and we lend to quit thinking in those terms.
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I agree in the main with kazascube.
The side issue under discussion about Britain wanting war is silly.
I agree that my country has committed many heinous crimes in the name of expansion but war with Germany was not one of them.
One just has to look at the poverty in the UK general strikes, the airforce was still in WW1 planes while The Germans had been building vast stockpiles of modern mono wing planes and tanks. Britain had been looking the other way since WW1 we were caught by surprise by the German appetite for swift expansion and were unready... look at the Dunkirk fiasco. It took 3 years for the UK to present a viable opposition to Germany. In addition Britain began to lose many of her colonies after the war ,,, we could not afford to expand and are still in debt to the US (or may have been paid of last year in fact?)
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England and France did it for the same reason they started WWI, they wanted a monopoly on colonies, trade and industrial power.
The man with a vision of uniting Northern, Southern, and Eastern Europe into an economic union, had his development plan altered by colonial powers who had gobbled up the Ottoman Empire after WWI and had both tried for making Russia a colony.
Germany uniting the East, Romanian oil, Ukraine coal and steel, grain, would have made prosperity from the Baltic to the Black Sea.
The British were behind the Russian Revolution, they had their own plan to make it a colony.
50,000,000 died for British greed.
The first World War, Germany had supported the Austrian Hungarian Empire, and the Ottoman Empire, as an Eastern European economic block.
There was no reason except great game politics for England and France to declare war, and carve up the Ottoman Empire.
As much damage as WWI did, the Spanish Flu and all, the largest economic damage was the Germans learning to make Indigo Dye from coal tar. Indigo had been the British Empire's main moneymaker. India went from being profitable to occupy, using cheap labor to produce indigo and opium, to losing money after the Boxer Rebellion blocked opium in China, and Germany made synthetic Indigo.
Also synthetic rubber was a threat to France and the plantations of Viet Nam.
Also in drugs, Bayer patented a means to make Aspirin. Fixing Nitrogen from the air, for explosives and fertilizer. Britain and France controlled the bat and bird s**t markets for Nitrates.
Empires based on exploiting colonies were failing, losing money, and the era of Chemical, Electric, Internal Combustion, Diesel replacing steam ships, Technology, was rapidly taking over.
Germany was to recover all lands, when they recovered the lands France had occupied no one said they invaded France.
When Germany reunited the Danzig Corregidor they found that unlike the French occupation, German men. women, children had been murdered in the east. This was a post war crime against humanity, the largest genocide in Europe, and the parties to the deal, who had been responsible, when asked what has become of millions of Germans, declared war. The administration of the Danzig Corregidor was Britain and France.
The peaceful union of German speaking people into one group was only an economic threat to the fading Colonial Powers. If you can't say anything nice, declare war. Then fund the Russians to fight the Germans.
WWII strived to kill German civilians, the bombing of cities, Dresden, 225,000 one night. The goal during and after the war was to exterminate Germany. It was like HP declaring war on Microsoft, Intel, and IBM, so HP products would be the only ones on the market.
Nations are businesses, Britain and France were failed Opium pushers, slave colonies, and coal fired steam.
Germany was taking their most profitable markets, was decades ahead in technology, about to change the whole world, so those old whores tried to murder them, as they had murdered endless people to support their empires.
Those same whores of old are still around, and still making trouble.
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from the "Coast to Coast" website-
Author Peter Levenda, on a recent "Coast to Coast" radio program, discussed the Nazi diaspora which occurred following WWII and how it connects to the modern challenge of global terrorism. He explained that, as WWII was coming to a close, high ranking Nazis secretly moved vast amounts of money and key personnel out of Germany and into locations all over the world. The goal of this plan, Levenda said, was to create an underground network of Nazis who would ensure that their ideology would survive the fall of the Third Reich and, eventually, use their resources to influence other nations which were unaware of this clandestine cabal. "We have this idea, because Germany lost the war, the Nazi Party disappeared," Levenda mused, "and nothing could be further from the truth."
Levenda pointed to the infamous Project Paperclip as a key element in this agenda, since many of the scientists imported to America were former SS officers who were fanatical in their Nazi ideologies and far more loyal to each other than to the United States. Moreover, he noted that since the Nazis hated capitalism as well as communism, they saw the infiltration of America and the Soviet Union as a way of pitting both nations against each other. According to Levenda, this tactic was evident during the Space Race as Nazi scientists in the US and USSR would secretly exchange information about their work in order to ensure that neither nation had a decisive advantage and, thus, fuel even greater spending on these projects. In later years, as this Nazi network became more entrenched, he contended, it would use its influence to steer the US and USSR into imprudent wars and other foolhardy adventures.
On how the contemporary War on Terrorism connects to this surreptitious Nazi plan, Levenda detailed how the idea of a global jihad was actually conceived in 1914 by a German expert on Islam who convinced his superiors to work with Muslim leaders to foment a holy war against colonial powers. In turn, he said, this concept would be manipulated, fostered, and funded by the underground Nazi network throughout the twentieth century and into contemporary times, leading ultimately to groups like Al Qaeda and ISIS. In looking at how history has unfolded since the Nazi diaspora, Levenda chillingly observed that "everything is going the way they wanted it" and noted that the USSR crumbled, America is in a seemingly unending war against terrorists, and Germany has been both reunified and wields tremendous power in the European Union.
There was no reason except great game politics for England and France to declare war, and carve up the Ottoman Empire.
As much damage as WWI did, the Spanish Flu and all, the largest economic damage was the Germans learning to make Indigo Dye from coal tar. Indigo had been the British Empire's main moneymaker. India went from being profitable to occupy, using cheap labor to produce indigo and opium, to losing money after the Boxer Rebellion blocked opium in China, and Germany made synthetic Indigo.
Also synthetic rubber was a threat to France and the plantations of Viet Nam.
Also in drugs, Bayer patented a means to make Aspirin. Fixing Nitrogen from the air, for explosives and fertilizer. Britain and France controlled the bat and bird s**t markets for Nitrates.
Empires based on exploiting colonies were failing, losing money, and the era of Chemical, Electric, Internal Combustion, Diesel replacing steam ships, Technology, was rapidly taking over.
Germany was to recover all lands, when they recovered the lands France had occupied no one said they invaded France.
When Germany reunited the Danzig Corregidor they found that unlike the French occupation, German men. women, children had been murdered in the east. This was a post war crime against humanity, the largest genocide in Europe, and the parties to the deal, who had been responsible, when asked what has become of millions of Germans, declared war. The administration of the Danzig Corregidor was Britain and France.
The peaceful union of German speaking people into one group was only an economic threat to the fading Colonial Powers. If you can't say anything nice, declare war. Then fund the Russians to fight the Germans.
WWII strived to kill German civilians, the bombing of cities, Dresden, 225,000 one night. The goal during and after the war was to exterminate Germany. It was like HP declaring war on Microsoft, Intel, and IBM, so HP products would be the only ones on the market.
Nations are businesses, Britain and France were failed Opium pushers, slave colonies, and coal fired steam.
Germany was taking their most profitable markets, was decades ahead in technology, about to change the whole world, so those old whores tried to murder them, as they had murdered endless people to support their empires.
Those same whores of old are still around, and still making trouble.
Sigh...a touching tribute to the Nazi Germans
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I guess they were the real victims huh!
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