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Do you believe in a God or follow any sort of religion?
yes (I'm aspie/autie) 41%  41%  [ 127 ]
no (I'm aspie/autie) 55%  55%  [ 170 ]
yes (I'm NT) 3%  3%  [ 8 ]
no (I'm NT) 2%  2%  [ 5 ]
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23 Jan 2010, 8:34 am

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So I should move on to another planet?


Perhaps, if you can find an unnatural one.



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23 Jan 2010, 8:54 am

Thanks for the suggestion. :D


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23 Jan 2010, 10:13 am

I am a Christian and proud of it! :D



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23 Jan 2010, 10:20 am

I stopped believing in God the day I saw Bilipeds (simple fats) automaticly arrange themselves into permiable cell membranes, without any intervention from an Intelligent mind, other than the one that mixed the bilipeds with water.

This was also reaffirmed in me, by the various experiments which produced Self-organizing chemicals, capable of spontaniously and continusly creating complex fractal-like shapes.

God is no longer needed in the equation of life.

I also believe that God was an invention, a way for Humans to absolve themselves from Guilt (generally via a Demon), and for those in Power to claim more power than they really have, over others. Possibly why I have a strong affinity with Buddhism, because it places responisbility firmly into the hands of the person, rather than some entangible concept or being



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23 Jan 2010, 10:28 am

But inventions can sometimes be useful in our lives, as some say...


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23 Jan 2010, 10:40 am

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But inventions can sometimes be useful in our lives, as some say...


Too true. That's why I appreciate an electric toaster or waffle maker much more than God.



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23 Jan 2010, 10:41 am

I am glad to know it's just a matter of appreciation...

To understand Him.


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23 Jan 2010, 10:52 am

This post is so old and so lengthy that I have no idea if I had ever said anything - apparently I added my vote somewhere as I see the pole results.

At the OP though - I think you answered a lot of the question by mentioning that you figured it all out when you were seven and haven't looked back. If you haven't modified your view even of the religious and the underpinnings/causality of their beliefs, its likely very much out of date with your mental development, oversimplified, and like most things that people hold as given truths and never challenge since childhood (this is where many atheists would scream "Yes! That's Christianity in a nutshell!"), its going to lead you in the same direction - both off point on the main topic and even off point in the way you assemble your working knowledge of the world around you on a day to day basis.

I'm not saying your right or wrong in your assertions of atheism - I won't go there because I don't think there is an answer above or beyond individual intuition - but I will say that I'd be happy holding on to anything in the same form or on the same dynamics that I put together as a child, at that age certain levels of perspective are nearly impossible as in they take levels of experience and imagination that simply aren't available at that point regardless of whether you have an average mind or whether your a prodigy.


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23 Jan 2010, 11:16 am

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But inventions can sometimes be useful in our lives, as some say...


Definitly, but when that invention causes things like Bigotry, Prejuidice, Fear, Hate, Murder etc, its usefulness gets lost. ultimatly humanity is seeking absolution from its responsibility to one another and the planet that created us imo, although I do not deny that there are many wonderful and compassionate religous people in the world, i believe the cost of this particular invention is far to high.



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23 Jan 2010, 11:57 am

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I am glad to know it's just a matter of appreciation...

To understand Him.


I have a reasonable understanding of my electric toaster. I use my computer but would hardly claim to understand it. A gadget such as God that is useful in creating universes is, I assume, somewhat more sophisticated than my computer, assuming He exists. If anyone claims to understand such a whatchamacallit I believe I am correct is saying that is a blatant lie.



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23 Jan 2010, 6:10 pm

Sand wrote:
ruennsheng wrote:
I am glad to know it's just a matter of appreciation...

To understand Him.


I have a reasonable understanding of my electric toaster. I use my computer but would hardly claim to understand it. A gadget such as God that is useful in creating universes is, I assume, somewhat more sophisticated than my computer, assuming He exists. If anyone claims to understand such a whatchamacallit I believe I am correct is saying that is a blatant lie.


I love reading your responses to these people and their "Him's","Faith", "Enlightenment", etc.

What I don't know is he anybody can still believe in that musty old book in the face of so much logical reasoning that proves the chance of any single god being real, is practically impossible with a small chance that it is, infact real.

Not to mention the small minority who argue, "Even if your Christian god was real, it wouldn't deserve worshipping anyway." Which is true... the Old Testament God reminded me of some sort of warlord, not a benevolent, loving, kind creator.



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23 Jan 2010, 6:15 pm

I don't believe in your conventional religions but believe in a GOD! I guess I would be a bit of a mix of religions really the christian one influenced me the most and I would bring my kid up with christian morals but I don't fit in with the christian religion as it seems to be an NT religion!



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24 Jan 2010, 12:02 am

Nikola wrote:
I don't believe in your conventional religions but believe in a GOD! I guess I would be a bit of a mix of religions really the christian one influenced me the most and I would bring my kid up with christian morals but I don't fit in with the christian religion as it seems to be an NT religion!


Religion's religion. There's no "NT religion" or "Autism religion". We're not a cult, just people with a neurological difference.

At any rate, your religions sounds strange. What are "Christian morals?" Why not just teach your children good morals regardless of some half Christian/Half something esle religion and its god?



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24 Jan 2010, 11:17 pm

I believe I am here for a reason, but I know I do not ought to be this lonely.

If you ask what I believe, I believe in the God of Israel, who created everything in time immemorial, the effects of such event eventually giving rise "designoids" as Richard Dawkins would put it. In short, based on my experience, I think God left everything to chance, until He found such times to call His creation - hence, most of the observable realm is no longer directly 'designed' by Him.

As for His Son, the much fabled and debated Jesus of Nazareth, I believe he is a very special human being, he is the Christ, after all. He was made immortal since his resurrection as an example of what to hope for after the standard lifetime. Nonetheless he is only divine, and NOT a deity. Well of course doubts about my connection to Them still creep into my mind, since both God and Jesus are objects only alluded to by text and not directly experienced by my limited humanity, nonetheless, my current literacy and text exposure point out to me that they're more existent rather than not.

I am fervently hoping that I do not serve in vain, since if any of the Biblical 'facts' were to fail, I would have failed likewise, my faith would be reduced to a false judgment. Though it is tolerable to have false beliefs - true in themselves, it is not right when used to judge objects outside of the mind. I guess there is still some trial and error involved. If my faith fails me, I hope it is ignorance, and not stupidity that I execute, although I would prefer to be living in True Wisdom in this lifetime. But since my senses fail to show truth and reveal only illusion, I am only left to choose to believe in things that are unseen, and the hope that if God is my Father, that he may be merciful to reveal these things to me, and the fundamental truths, in His time, even if it is not this lifetime. In the end, I can only profess ignorance, but I don't settle, I'd rather fail than not try at all.

In short, I believe my life would be woefully empty, if I don't have God in my life. Yes, part of my mind says that it only happens due to my human nature, and the upbringing that I've had. But I cannot choose that, that is forever part my identity and I cannot discard that. Even if my perception/conception of God and religion is only a delusion, I hope and strive to live closest to the truth as my humanity would allow. And if my religious, scientific, and psychological construct of what I believe, even if I do not know exactly why, is a fairly close representation of the unseen end of reality/God, I hope to truly be a friend to God and my fellow humans, as one who has learned to love and live in this limited existence.

I know there are worse points of contention. I know I don't have the 'evidence' to back this all up, but this is what I want to share here, so please bear with me.



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24 Jan 2010, 11:57 pm

I don't believe in god, mainly because man created it in His own image. So, Ego would be a more accurate term. Animals don't need god because they lack ego. Do I believe man's Ego created the universe? Of course not. And why do people 'need' god so much in the first place? I think it's because they're afraid of death, mostly, and their other made-up idea, "the afterlife". If there were an afterlife, it would more likely be in the form of reincarnation, as in the circle of life, if any at all. I don't fear death and I trust my place in the Universe, but I don't believe in a god that people have created for the sake of their fear and need for power, dominion and domination. If I believed in god I would have to believe it was a very cruel god because of everything I have gone through. Whatever created or caused the Universe to occur, it was not cruel, it's too perfect and beautiful for that, but people sure as hell are.



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20 Feb 2010, 7:57 pm

No, I see God as an unecessary complication to the laws of nature and always have since an earthquake hit Peru on the 31st May 1970