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There was no reason except great game politics for England and France to declare war, and carve up the Ottoman Empire.
As much damage as WWI did, the Spanish Flu and all, the largest economic damage was the Germans learning to make Indigo Dye from coal tar. Indigo had been the British Empire's main moneymaker. India went from being profitable to occupy, using cheap labor to produce indigo and opium, to losing money after the Boxer Rebellion blocked opium in China, and Germany made synthetic Indigo.
Also synthetic rubber was a threat to France and the plantations of Viet Nam.
Also in drugs, Bayer patented a means to make Aspirin. Fixing Nitrogen from the air, for explosives and fertilizer. Britain and France controlled the bat and bird s**t markets for Nitrates.
Empires based on exploiting colonies were failing, losing money, and the era of Chemical, Electric, Internal Combustion, Diesel replacing steam ships, Technology, was rapidly taking over.
Germany was to recover all lands, when they recovered the lands France had occupied no one said they invaded France.
When Germany reunited the Danzig Corregidor they found that unlike the French occupation, German men. women, children had been murdered in the east. This was a post war crime against humanity, the largest genocide in Europe, and the parties to the deal, who had been responsible, when asked what has become of millions of Germans, declared war. The administration of the Danzig Corregidor was Britain and France.
The peaceful union of German speaking people into one group was only an economic threat to the fading Colonial Powers. If you can't say anything nice, declare war. Then fund the Russians to fight the Germans.
WWII strived to kill German civilians, the bombing of cities, Dresden, 225,000 one night. The goal during and after the war was to exterminate Germany. It was like HP declaring war on Microsoft, Intel, and IBM, so HP products would be the only ones on the market.
Nations are businesses, Britain and France were failed Opium pushers, slave colonies, and coal fired steam.
Germany was taking their most profitable markets, was decades ahead in technology, about to change the whole world, so those old whores tried to murder them, as they had murdered endless people to support their empires.
Those same whores of old are still around, and still making trouble.
And just how does Hitler's genocidal plans that had culminated in the Holocaust fit in to this notion that the real bad guys were the English and French?
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There was no reason except great game politics for England and France to declare war, and carve up the Ottoman Empire.
As much damage as WWI did, the Spanish Flu and all, the largest economic damage was the Germans learning to make Indigo Dye from coal tar. Indigo had been the British Empire's main moneymaker. India went from being profitable to occupy, using cheap labor to produce indigo and opium, to losing money after the Boxer Rebellion blocked opium in China, and Germany made synthetic Indigo.
Also synthetic rubber was a threat to France and the plantations of Viet Nam.
Also in drugs, Bayer patented a means to make Aspirin. Fixing Nitrogen from the air, for explosives and fertilizer. Britain and France controlled the bat and bird s**t markets for Nitrates.
Empires based on exploiting colonies were failing, losing money, and the era of Chemical, Electric, Internal Combustion, Diesel replacing steam ships, Technology, was rapidly taking over.
Germany was to recover all lands, when they recovered the lands France had occupied no one said they invaded France.
When Germany reunited the Danzig Corregidor they found that unlike the French occupation, German men. women, children had been murdered in the east. This was a post war crime against humanity, the largest genocide in Europe, and the parties to the deal, who had been responsible, when asked what has become of millions of Germans, declared war. The administration of the Danzig Corregidor was Britain and France.
The peaceful union of German speaking people into one group was only an economic threat to the fading Colonial Powers. If you can't say anything nice, declare war. Then fund the Russians to fight the Germans.
WWII strived to kill German civilians, the bombing of cities, Dresden, 225,000 one night. The goal during and after the war was to exterminate Germany. It was like HP declaring war on Microsoft, Intel, and IBM, so HP products would be the only ones on the market.
Nations are businesses, Britain and France were failed Opium pushers, slave colonies, and coal fired steam.
Germany was taking their most profitable markets, was decades ahead in technology, about to change the whole world, so those old whores tried to murder them, as they had murdered endless people to support their empires.
Those same whores of old are still around, and still making trouble.
Sigh...a touching tribute to the Nazi Germans
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I guess they were the real victims huh!
That certainly would come as a big surprise to the German people today, as most of them despise the memory of Hitler and his gang of maniacs.
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I write history. Some chose propaganda, and laws were imposed on Germany making support of their history, fathers, grandfathers, illegal, and making not believing in allied propaganda a serious crime.
Nothing had happened up to the point where Britain and France declared war. Germany looked into the Danzig Corregidor, found genocide, war was declared. The cause of WWII was the guilt of the Allies after WWI.
After the surrender of WWII, millions of Germans were killed. The history is well documented, unlike propaganda offenses invented by the Allies.
Can anyone really believe that 3,000 people a day were killed and burned in six small crematory ovens, every day for six years, leaving no records, no remains, by a country at war being bombed most days? This during a fuel shortage and war effort.
Above that were millions more Gypsies, Homosexuals, Communists, pushing the daily total to over 5,000?
This death toll equals that caused by round the clock bombing of cities by Allied Air Power. The camps had a staff of several hundred.
While it is said the difference between reality and fiction is fiction has to make sense, History takes facts, and Propaganda knows no limits.
The facts are, Germany entered the Danzig Corridor, Britain and France declared war.
Can anyone really believe that 3,000 people a day were killed and burned in six small crematory ovens, every day for six years, leaving no records, no remains, by a country at war being bombed most days? This during a fuel shortage and war effort.
Above that were millions more Gypsies, Homosexuals, Communists, pushing the daily total to over 5,000?
Inventor, please tell me who killed all those people.
Hope to get an answer from you this time. On another forum I wrote: "Please explain what you mean with "Taking out illegals and retired................"." and never heard from you. Just to refresh your memory my comment was in response to this: "Taking out illegals and retired, gives the working age people more choices, lower rents, greater chance at home ownership. Clear and simple small business laws, more ideas come to market. Full employment drives up wages."
Thank you. Looking forward to read your reply.
Thanks.
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Nothing had happened up to the point where Britain and France declared war. Germany looked into the Danzig Corregidor, found genocide, war was declared. The cause of WWII was the guilt of the Allies after WWI.
After the surrender of WWII, millions of Germans were killed. The history is well documented, unlike propaganda offenses invented by the Allies.
Can anyone really believe that 3,000 people a day were killed and burned in six small crematory ovens, every day for six years, leaving no records, no remains, by a country at war being bombed most days? This during a fuel shortage and war effort.
Above that were millions more Gypsies, Homosexuals, Communists, pushing the daily total to over 5,000?
This death toll equals that caused by round the clock bombing of cities by Allied Air Power. The camps had a staff of several hundred.
While it is said the difference between reality and fiction is fiction has to make sense, History takes facts, and Propaganda knows no limits.
The facts are, Germany entered the Danzig Corridor, Britain and France declared war.
Nazi war crimes were just Allied propaganda? You do know that we are able to read everything you're posting, don't you?
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Nothing had happened up to the point where Britain and France declared war. Germany looked into the Danzig Corregidor, found genocide, war was declared. The cause of WWII was the guilt of the Allies after WWI.
After the surrender of WWII, millions of Germans were killed. The history is well documented, unlike propaganda offenses invented by the Allies.
Can anyone really believe that 3,000 people a day were killed and burned in six small crematory ovens, every day for six years, leaving no records, no remains, by a country at war being bombed most days? This during a fuel shortage and war effort.
Above that were millions more Gypsies, Homosexuals, Communists, pushing the daily total to over 5,000?
This death toll equals that caused by round the clock bombing of cities by Allied Air Power. The camps had a staff of several hundred.
While it is said the difference between reality and fiction is fiction has to make sense, History takes facts, and Propaganda knows no limits.
The facts are, Germany entered the Danzig Corridor, Britain and France declared war.
If you recognise for a moment that this war was a battle between two European tribes for the imperial spoils of one, then this German ethnic bloodletting of the Jew and gypsies, their destruction of that other rival, the global rationalists or Marxist, and that other less spoken about bloodletting, the widespread murder of those with cognitive and physical differences, plus their subjugation at an imperial level, of many of the worlds races, makes sense.
The fact that Anglo Saxon England and its Empire plus independent US rose up to kick the shite out of the Germans then also makes sense.
For the largely tribal NT mindset of which we are amply aware, this should be self explanatory.
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I feel there is a need to state that ethnic Germans living in eastern Europe were indeed the forgotten victims of the two world wars. They were the the targets of nativists and nationalists in the same way that Jews were. Unfortunately, because of the Nazi's crimes, any sympathy for any Germans - no matter how innocent - is greatly discouraged, even today. My dad's people had been Germans who had colonized the Black Sea region at the invitation of the Russian Empire back in the 19th century, and who immigrated to America by the 1860's due to the ugly side of Russian nationalism, again, very much like Jews had also done. But we had had relatives who had remained in Russia, and ultimately paid for that choice. One possible relative had been executed by the invading Nazis, while others had starved to death after being uprooted and exiled to Siberia by the Soviets. To be sure, ethnic Germans, most of whom had been innocent of Hitler's crimes - and many of whom had in fact served in the Red Army - had been punished by Stalin simply for where their ancestors had come from. That being said, it still hardly diminishes the crimes that Hitler had committed. Everyone who had gone through sh*t for no fault of their own should be recognized. But the sh*t committed by bad people also should not be forgotten simply for political sympathies.
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Thank you. Looking forward to read your reply.
Thanks.
I think I did answer, the problem we are facing is the 45 million now retiring do not have enough to live on, half have no savings, and expect nothing but Social Security. They lost badly in the recession of 2008.
I proposed building retirement towns where they could afford to live out their long expected lives, much longer than any other generation, which makes the post 65 a growing demographic for the next thirty years.
This is a new thing, when Social Security started in 1933 people could retire at 65, but most died at 55.
Now we have a war baby generation that will most likely live to 85-90.
Currently retired, plus the war babies demographic bulge, is a quarter of the population, with 50-60% in the workforce, and a quarter or less children, the disabled, which leaves each worker supporting two people, themselves, one retired, child, or disabled.
The worker/retired ratio is 2/1, when Social Security started it was 7/1.
Todays jobs do not pay. Fifty years ago any job could afford to marry a non working wife, have children, and buy a house, car, and dog. Flipping burgers will not pay for an apartment and food.
Most retired will not be able to afford an apartment and food.
Building new retirement towns, where the cost of living matches income, and services matches social need, health care and such, are needed for this never before problem of one quarter retired.
The good, besides jobs created building and managing, is the space left behind being more affordable to the up and coming generation through their child bearing and rearing years. People living another twenty-five years has altered this turnover.
New retirement towns would benefit the retired, a secure future, young people starting a family, and as this living longer thing will continue, in their own retirement in forty years.
This will be a downward pressure on real estate, a quarter of the population leaving, which will benefit those young workers who have to pay for this.
Currently top Social Security is 15.4% on the first $115,000. That is less than $20,000. Most households are making half that. Flipping burger jobs even less.
Government employees are not in Social Security, so subtract that large chunk of the workforce.
What is left will not cover the cost of one quarter retired.
Social Security has to be doubled on workers, 30% of income, or costs have to be reduced for the retired.
Ideally we need more workers, non government, making higher wages.
Building retirement towns would produce good jobs, and getting the illegals out of construction work would produce more and better paying jobs for citizens.
Just to Mexico, illegals are sending $22 billion a year by Western Union. We have no idea where they got the money. We are fairly sure they are not paying taxes and Social Security on it.
Some should be covered under a Guest Worker Program, farm and orchard work.
Others are doing construction, painting, landscape, not paying taxes, Social Security, and bidding the jobs below what a tax paying citizen could. This is unfair to American Labor.
Others are just here for the crime and drug dealing, 31% of our prison system, 2,000,000 who are deported every year.
Secure the border, make it much harder to live and work here as an illegal, increase deportations, and use facial recognition software at all points of entry. Best guess is there are 11 to 31 million here. Up to 10% of the population.
They reduce wages, increase unemployment, do not pay taxes and Social Security, and do make excess use of our jails, 10% of the population, 31% of the jail space.
The good illegals do not make up for the bad illegals.
Going forward, people are going to continue living longer, and not having enough to live on. Those in Student Loan debt with no good job prospects will not pay enough into Social Security. They will not buy houses and raise families.
Higher Education has not lived up to the promise. A Degree is not a ticket to anywhere but lifetime debt.
Here in Louisiana, the State University System went bankrupt, as enrolment dropped. This trend continues as we are at an all time low birth rate for the last decade.
Replacing Americans with the Zeta Cartel is not a good option.
We have a large retired generation to care for, for the next forever, and a small current generation who all need to make a lot of money for this to work. Education debt is higher than consumer credit card debt, and they were sold a defective product they cannot return.
Move the retired into affordable towns with services to fit their needs. Move the illegals to the other side of a secure border, cut back on all immigration till we have full employment and high wages, and put tariffs on goods produced off shore. Tariffs plus transportation, manufacturing jobs will return to the USA.
Otherwise, we can move to the town dump and pick through the garbage.
Thank you. Looking forward to read your reply.
Thanks.
I think I did answer, the problem we are facing is the 45 million now retiring do not have enough to live on, half have no savings, and expect nothing but Social Security. They lost badly in the recession of 2008.
I proposed building retirement towns where they could afford to live out their long expected lives, much longer than any other generation, which makes the post 65 a growing demographic for the next thirty years.
This is a new thing, when Social Security started in 1933 people could retire at 65, but most died at 55.
Now we have a war baby generation that will most likely live to 85-90.
Currently retired, plus the war babies demographic bulge, is a quarter of the population, with 50-60% in the workforce, and a quarter or less children, the disabled, which leaves each worker supporting two people, themselves, one retired, child, or disabled.
The worker/retired ratio is 2/1, when Social Security started it was 7/1.
Todays jobs do not pay. Fifty years ago any job could afford to marry a non working wife, have children, and buy a house, car, and dog. Flipping burgers will not pay for an apartment and food.
Most retired will not be able to afford an apartment and food.
Building new retirement towns, where the cost of living matches income, and services matches social need, health care and such, are needed for this never before problem of one quarter retired.
The good, besides jobs created building and managing, is the space left behind being more affordable to the up and coming generation through their child bearing and rearing years. People living another twenty-five years has altered this turnover.
New retirement towns would benefit the retired, a secure future, young people starting a family, and as this living longer thing will continue, in their own retirement in forty years.
This will be a downward pressure on real estate, a quarter of the population leaving, which will benefit those young workers who have to pay for this.
Currently top Social Security is 15.4% on the first $115,000. That is less than $20,000. Most households are making half that. Flipping burger jobs even less.
Government employees are not in Social Security, so subtract that large chunk of the workforce.
What is left will not cover the cost of one quarter retired.
Social Security has to be doubled on workers, 30% of income, or costs have to be reduced for the retired.
Ideally we need more workers, non government, making higher wages.
Building retirement towns would produce good jobs, and getting the illegals out of construction work would produce more and better paying jobs for citizens.
Just to Mexico, illegals are sending $22 billion a year by Western Union. We have no idea where they got the money. We are fairly sure they are not paying taxes and Social Security on it.
Some should be covered under a Guest Worker Program, farm and orchard work.
Others are doing construction, painting, landscape, not paying taxes, Social Security, and bidding the jobs below what a tax paying citizen could. This is unfair to American Labor.
Others are just here for the crime and drug dealing, 31% of our prison system, 2,000,000 who are deported every year.
Secure the border, make it much harder to live and work here as an illegal, increase deportations, and use facial recognition software at all points of entry. Best guess is there are 11 to 31 million here. Up to 10% of the population.
They reduce wages, increase unemployment, do not pay taxes and Social Security, and do make excess use of our jails, 10% of the population, 31% of the jail space.
The good illegals do not make up for the bad illegals.
Going forward, people are going to continue living longer, and not having enough to live on. Those in Student Loan debt with no good job prospects will not pay enough into Social Security. They will not buy houses and raise families.
Higher Education has not lived up to the promise. A Degree is not a ticket to anywhere but lifetime debt.
Here in Louisiana, the State University System went bankrupt, as enrolment dropped. This trend continues as we are at an all time low birth rate for the last decade.
Replacing Americans with the Zeta Cartel is not a good option.
We have a large retired generation to care for, for the next forever, and a small current generation who all need to make a lot of money for this to work. Education debt is higher than consumer credit card debt, and they were sold a defective product they cannot return.
Move the retired into affordable towns with services to fit their needs. Move the illegals to the other side of a secure border, cut back on all immigration till we have full employment and high wages, and put tariffs on goods produced off shore. Tariffs plus transportation, manufacturing jobs will return to the USA.
Otherwise, we can move to the town dump and pick through the garbage.
I think maybe I should start off by mentioning that I am one of those self centered Baby Boomers who will probably live another 20 or 25 years. Did you notice that I am now 66 years of age! And started collecting Social Security at the age of 62 1/2! Almost forgot to mention I am also a Jew.
You have complained that are too many people are living way beyond the age of retirement collecting SS. Most of them have been putting money in their SS account for at least 40 years. Why shouldn't they be able to collect? Are you afraid that there will no money left for the next generation?
My opinion on your attitude towards this problem is that if you do not like people living longer lives you should come up with a solution. Of course other than beheading, hanging, shooting, euthanized or be put in a gas chamber. Have you ever seen the movie "Soylent Green". You would really love this one depending if you are interested in science fiction. I think you would.
I am looking forward to reading your suggestion that could possibly prevent the problem.
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We would need to carefully consider the old age issue as it invariably catches up with us all. Locking them away in ageistic apartheid is something you need to be asking yourself is what you want when you finally cross that threshold...or full participation in the community.
How we fund that is the next issue. Clearly the money is there if too big to fail banks can be put on life support at short notice.
Living longer is new, we never had anything for that. Worse, we are getting better at it, the population increase has been because less people die in childhood, and due to better working conditions, and food supply, we do not wear out our bodies at fifty plowing forty acres with a mule.
We are living half again as long, and recent studies show that could increase to 120.
While Public Health and better working conditions took a hundred years to double life expectancy this next increase is going to happen within a generation.
While too big to fail banks and brokers lobbied Congress to the tune of a half billion a year, us old people have AARP, who tries to market more things than Amway.
The main concern of Congress seems to be new ways to figure the cost of living increase, using numbers that say I can buy twice the computer for less money, so there is no inflation.
Their answer has been retire later, less benefits, and ten years before the war babies were to retire, a whole lot of old people lost their jobs, which were to set their retirement benefits. Market management to reduce liability.
I am not seeing a bailout from the Federal Reserve.
Federal spending is half Defense and half Social Security, and that before the 45 million war babies retire. Most were born 1947 to 1953, so it hits as a wave. This flood will last twenty-five years.
What they paid in was invested by Congress in their paychecks and retirement benefits. Some was invested in Defense Contracting that Congress was the main stock holder. It would be nice to be exempt from Insider Trading Laws.
Tax income does not equal current spending, by a trillion a year, and payouts are going to greatly increase.
We can just print more money, as interest bearing bonds, and run up the National Debt.
Sure, we could eliminate poverty by giving everyone a million dollar bond.
Half Defense, half Social Security, and Defense does their best to start an endless chain of wars.
The can has been kicked down the road to the washed out bridge.
We are living half again as long, and recent studies show that could increase to 120.
While Public Health and better working conditions took a hundred years to double life expectancy this next increase is going to happen within a generation.
While too big to fail banks and brokers lobbied Congress to the tune of a half billion a year, us old people have AARP, who tries to market more things than Amway.
The main concern of Congress seems to be new ways to figure the cost of living increase, using numbers that say I can buy twice the computer for less money, so there is no inflation.
Their answer has been retire later, less benefits, and ten years before the war babies were to retire, a whole lot of old people lost their jobs, which were to set their retirement benefits. Market management to reduce liability.
I am not seeing a bailout from the Federal Reserve.
Federal spending is half Defense and half Social Security, and that before the 45 million war babies retire. Most were born 1947 to 1953, so it hits as a wave. This flood will last twenty-five years.
What they paid in was invested by Congress in their paychecks and retirement benefits. Some was invested in Defense Contracting that Congress was the main stock holder. It would be nice to be exempt from Insider Trading Laws.
Tax income does not equal current spending, by a trillion a year, and payouts are going to greatly increase.
We can just print more money, as interest bearing bonds, and run up the National Debt.
Sure, we could eliminate poverty by giving everyone a million dollar bond.
Half Defense, half Social Security, and Defense does their best to start an endless chain of wars.
The can has been kicked down the road to the washed out bridge.
You want to be exempt from insider trading laws. That means you would be able to steal from investors who don't have insider knowledge as you do. Do you think that's fair? If you do, please explain how you come to such a conclusion...
Congress, by Act of Congress, is exempt from Insider Trading Laws.
Under the Pork System, Congress knows who will get what defense contracts, and is free to buy stocks in them before the award is announced.
I do not think this is fair, everyone else is covered by Insider Trading, including the SEC.
A Federal Court Judge deciding a Patent suit would not dare trade in the stocks of the parties.
Only Congress can.
Under the Pork System, Congress knows who will get what defense contracts, and is free to buy stocks in them before the award is announced.
I do not think this is fair, everyone else is covered by Insider Trading, including the SEC.
A Federal Court Judge deciding a Patent suit would not dare trade in the stocks of the parties.
Only Congress can.
Ah, now I see what you meant. I agree, Congress members shouldn't be exempt...
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