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25 Sep 2015, 11:37 am

Yes, corruptions exists at all levels of governance but, I suppose one would have to be like a tyrant and in literal terms sweep out all corrupt persons.


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25 Sep 2015, 12:37 pm

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Yes, corruptions exists at all levels of governance but, I suppose one would have to be like a tyrant and in literal terms sweep out all corrupt persons.

Actually, I think all we need to do is to hold bureaucrats and especially politicians accountable for their conduct. I don't know about other countries, but here in the U.S. the politicians are exempt from not only insider trading laws, but also sexual harassment, fair employment laws, and a whole multitude of things.


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25 Sep 2015, 1:10 pm

glebel, your quite right as, the law needs to have no exceptions for anyone even members of parliament regardless of who they are. Honestly, I'm not sure how Mr. Bankrupt 5 businesses with several employees(Trump) would actually do away with corruption. From a hypothetical standpoint I'd love to resurrect the many dead presidents of centuries past and let them go around terrorizing today's so-called politicians for in days gone by people for the government were actually known as statesmen.


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25 Sep 2015, 6:27 pm

I guess what might be helpful here in amuurica, is a spell with a benevolent dictator who would do away with the bad actors at all levels. lots of little islands all over where they could be sent.



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26 Sep 2015, 7:56 am

The media is saying an attendance crowd booed Trump, they were actually booing Rubio's name whom they dislike. They are going so far as to spread disinformation to destroy Trump.
Our media is so run by Joseph Goebbels himself of the Ministry of Public Enlightement and Propaganda.



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26 Sep 2015, 9:48 am

kazanscube wrote:
glebel, your quite right as, the law needs to have no exceptions for anyone even members of parliament regardless of who they are. Honestly, I'm not sure how Mr. Bankrupt 5 businesses with several employees(Trump) would actually do away with corruption. From a hypothetical standpoint I'd love to resurrect the many dead presidents of centuries past and let them go around terrorizing today's so-called politicians for in days gone by people for the government were actually known as statesmen.

The problem with resurrecting dead Presidents is that most of those dirtbags were corrupt too.


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26 Sep 2015, 9:54 am

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I guess what might be helpful here in amuurica, is a spell with a benevolent dictator who would do away with the bad actors at all levels. lots of little islands all over where they could be sent.

I don't think they make dictators like Cinciannatus anymore. He was an ancient Roman citizen who was appointed dictator of the Republic during a crisis. Republic dictators sat for one year, but Cinciannatus cleared up the mess in one or two months and went back to his farm.
Any modern dictator would get in and stay. The current system may be bad, but your alternative would be far worse.


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26 Sep 2015, 3:43 pm

we need another just like Cinciannatus :idea:



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26 Sep 2015, 8:48 pm

Our problem, only Congress can regulate Congress.

The Founding Fathers made the People Supreme, by having one House Seat for every 50,000 people.

All Laws had to come from the House.

Fast forward, 1913, some bankers wanted the money, and no objection, so besides the Federal Reserve System, Income Tax, they also bought the freezing of the House at 425.

A current house, several thousand, would be the voice of the People, as the Founders envisioned.

This was nothing less than the overthrow of The United States of America.

All tax had been a tariff on Trade, where business paid the cost of government.

That was placed on labor with the Income Tax.

New York Banks and Brokers bribed Congress, manipulated the market, and overthrew the country.

Congress cost about a million each from Finance, Banks and Brokers, and for a half billion a year they get trillions in bailouts. They have been getting zero interest money since 2008.

As Barry the President said, "No one did anything illegal, no laws were broken, but we have to give all the money and control of the future to the banks to save the economy." Barry got his.

Everything is legal if there are no laws covering the subject. Congress had a right to sell out America, because it is not against their laws, or any they would make.

No President could stop them, our President is limited in power.

The limit on the power of Congress was that each good sized town would have one, and they served only two years at the pleasure of the people.

Once that was removed, and Congress was on the Banks and Brokers payroll, the Banks ruled the country.

The only means of change, is to amend the Constitution by having Congress ask the States to ratify it.

The Motion has to come from the House.

It was all legal, no one broke any law, they stole the Government legally.



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26 Nov 2015, 10:22 am

http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pol ... ded,Walker
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:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
It's near certain Trump will be the nominee to face off against Clinton, (who will likely get beat by a YUGE landslide)! !!



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26 Nov 2015, 11:06 am

AntDog wrote:
http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2016-national-gop-primary#!mindate=2015-03-31&estimate=custom&selected=Bush,Carson,Christie,Cruz,Fiorina,Gilmore,Graham,Huckabee,Jindal,Kasich,Other,Pataki,Perry,Rand%20Paul,Rubio,Santorum,Trump,Undecided,Walker
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:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
It's near certain Trump will be the nominee to face off against Clinton, (who will likely get beat by a YUGE landslide)! ! !

Good luck with that. In the meantime, here's something to sooth your soul...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzTZ76vhnKk



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06 Dec 2015, 12:05 pm

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Unlike pretty much everyone else running for president, with the except of Carly, he actually understands business and economics, since he has actually been in the business world. Doesn't it ever worry anyone else besides me that most of the people making economic policy haven't worked in the private sector and have no clue about economics, business, or how certain policies affect the business world?

Knowing how to game the system best for yourself doesn't qualify you as the best person to represent ALL Americans. :roll:

I never understood the mentality that we should praise hucksters and wheeler-dealer types as fit for leadership. The thought of Mittons in 2012 was bad enough. Trump "understands" economics in terms of helping numero-uno and screwing everyone else. In the end that's really what "economics" is about. You are a fool. They guy is a f**ing narcissist/sociopath for christ sakes. These people understand "economics". hahahahahaha



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07 Dec 2015, 5:58 pm

pcuser wrote:
AntDog wrote:
http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2016-national-gop-primary#!mindate=2015-03-31&estimate=custom&selected=Bush,Carson,Christie,Cruz,Fiorina,Gilmore,Graham,Huckabee,Jindal,Kasich,Other,Pataki,Perry,Rand%20Paul,Rubio,Santorum,Trump,Undecided,Walker
Image
:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
It's near certain Trump will be the nominee to face off against Clinton, (who will likely get beat by a YUGE landslide)! ! !

Good luck with that. In the meantime, here's something to sooth your soul...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzTZ76vhnKk



That Trump image is creepy..


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07 Dec 2015, 6:04 pm

somehow I see detention camps in America's future. what is old is new again.



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07 Dec 2015, 6:09 pm

autblabby, that's a creepy thought by all accounts however, I would not the possibility of such given his anti-immigration stance..


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07 Dec 2015, 9:25 pm

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somehow I see detention camps in America's future. what is old is new again.



But will we have an American Martin Niemoller, who will be remembered as saying, "When they came for the Muslims, I did nothing because I was not a Muslim. When they came for the Latinos, I did nothing because I was not a Latino. When they came for Black Lives Matter, I did nothing because I was not with Black Lives Matter. And when they came for me, no one did anything."


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