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02 Aug 2016, 10:21 am

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I present to you apparently the most unpopular political view ever.

We're not really doing that bad.

Objectively speaking, we live in the most peaceful, wealthy and productive time in the history of the planet.

But for some reason, everyone seems to be easily convinced by the idea that "The World Is Going To Hell In A Handbasket."

I also support an unconditional basic income guarantee, that does not go away once you start earning more money, because it's the only way to get the inherently massive amount of wealth America has to circulate.

We have so much wealth and production, it's not even funny. The only problem is that the most basic citizen does not have sufficient credit to circulate this wealth and stimulate the economy. I'm not proposing socialism, where the state controls the industries directly. I'm merely stating that the citizen needs to be guaranteed a certain potential to circulate wealth beyond the wage they can get on their own.

We are approaching a time in which any labor short of a Bachelor's Degree is unneeded as automation and efficiency skyrockets from technological growth. It is therefore necessary to give the hordes of future unemployed the ability to still purchase things to prevent the economy from locking up.

It's sad that this is an unpopular view as you are correct about everything you say. The only thing I would add is that even some jobs requiring a bachelors degree will be taken over by technology advances. 3-D printing is also a major disruptive force in the economy. Algorithms are getting better as we speak. They will continue taking jobs from white collar workers as they have already begun doing. That only takes into account the technology we currently know about. Future advances may well be more disruptive. Lastly, the reason many view the world as going to hell in a hand basket is because of the 24/7 news that lives by the credo of if it bleeds, it leads. Combine that with the same horrific news story being repeated over several days with information we already know from the first time it was broadcast. Low information voters don't understand the effect this has on the human psyche.

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02 Aug 2016, 8:57 pm

the late stanley kubrick [prepping for the movie "AI" before his death] foresaw that vast numbers would be displaced by technology, and not at all happy about it. he also foresaw the return of "bread and circuses."

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03 Aug 2016, 12:48 pm

The big question I see on (and over) the horizon, is what to do with all of the millions of people displaced by automation.

Will they be made to rot in ghettos, waiting for the next big manual labor requirement?

Or will the world's wealth be distributed amongst all peoples?

If you were one of the wealthy and powerful movers and shakers of the world, what would be your choice?

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03 Aug 2016, 1:29 pm

I would support a basic minimum income that would give people a middle class life.

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03 Aug 2016, 1:41 pm

Probably the most hated political view out there is Centrism.

People seem really into extremes these days. The all-or-nothing type of politics.

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03 Aug 2016, 3:06 pm

I am from the extreme middle of the road.

And intend to form a secret cell of middle of the road terrorists!

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03 Aug 2016, 3:13 pm

naturalplastic wrote:

I am from the extreme middle of the road.

And intend to form a secret cell of middle of the road terrorists!

Nice...

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03 Aug 2016, 3:53 pm

ZenDen wrote:

The big question I see on (and over) the horizon, is what to do with all of the millions of people displaced by automation. Will they be made to rot in ghettos, waiting for the next big manual labor requirement?
Or will the world's wealth be distributed amongst all peoples? If you were one of the wealthy and powerful movers and shakers of the world, what would be your choice?

AFAIK the PTB will find a way to rid themselves of what they see as "excess population." but if I was a PTB i'd go in the opposite direction and put a stop to the black budgets and take that fundage and figure out a way to help the world prosper in a sustainable direction.

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03 Aug 2016, 3:58 pm

auntblabby wrote:

ZenDen wrote:

The big question I see on (and over) the horizon, is what to do with all of the millions of people displaced by automation. Will they be made to rot in ghettos, waiting for the next big manual labor requirement?
Or will the world's wealth be distributed amongst all peoples? If you were one of the wealthy and powerful movers and shakers of the world, what would be your choice?

Alas, they will NEVER allow you to be president; too radical.

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03 Aug 2016, 4:24 pm

ZenDen wrote:

auntblabby wrote:

ZenDen wrote:

The big question I see on (and over) the horizon, is what to do with all of the millions of people displaced by automation. Will they be made to rot in ghettos, waiting for the next big manual labor requirement?
Or will the world's wealth be distributed amongst all peoples? If you were one of the wealthy and powerful movers and shakers of the world, what would be your choice?

Alas, they will NEVER allow you to be president; too radical.

not being selfish and evil. to some, that is radical.

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03 Aug 2016, 5:21 pm

What's the PTB?

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03 Aug 2016, 5:26 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:

What's the PTB?

Powers
That
Be.

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03 Aug 2016, 5:31 pm

Yeah...them.

But hey....you do have your electronics.

I wish I could help you get a chick---because I think you'll be a fine boyfriend for a nice country girl.

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03 Aug 2016, 5:34 pm

^^^thank you :flower: you are a good egg :bounce:

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04 Aug 2016, 4:21 pm

Christianity is corrupt, and we need to fix them before they collapse!

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04 Aug 2016, 4:43 pm

AFAIC there way way too many people in amuurica who just want to use the heavy hand of uncle trump to stick it to groups they don't like.

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