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01 Oct 2021, 9:02 am

I don't feel it should be "banned."

I just feel it should be studied, like all ideologies are studied. And that people be allowed to make their own choice on it, on the merits.

I don't even believe in banning something like "Mein Kampf." I believe it should be exposed for the utter farce that it is. This is only possible if you don't ban it.



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01 Oct 2021, 12:15 pm

Those who on one hand that go around complaining of the woke cancelling things and on the other hand favor banning critical race theory expose themselves as hypocrites and thus increase the chance of the wokes getting their way. Anti CRT people who don’t favor cancelling CRT are guilty by association, their opposition to CRT assumed to come from their racism. These people do not understand that the whole CRT/1619 project nightmare is happening because the bad stuff was whitewashed.


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01 Oct 2021, 5:44 pm

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I acknowledge history. I acknowledge what was done to POC until very recently.

But Critical Race Theory places the blame for all this on every white person----which is an erroneous supposition. That's my main problem with it. The assumption that every white person is "privileged" merely because of being white is also erroneous. The assumption that there is a monolithic "white" ethnic group is also erroneous.

There's no problem at all with teaching "what actually happened" in history class. The Trail of Tears for Native American was fact. Jim Crow was fact. Emmett Till was fact. Segregation was fact. And there is much more work to do even these days to stamp out racism.


You are making a hell of a lot of dollars and cents.
Obviously, I am having a good influence on you. <cheeky> :mrgreen:



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01 Oct 2021, 5:46 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
I don't feel it should be "banned."

I just feel it should be studied, like all ideologies are studied. And that people be allowed to make their own choice on it, on the merits.

I don't even believe in banning something like "Mein Kampf." I believe it should be exposed for the utter farce that it is. This is only possible if you don't ban it.


I think the political spin should be banned. 8)



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01 Oct 2021, 5:53 pm

ASPartOfMe wrote:
Those who on one hand that go around complaining of the woke cancelling things and on the other hand favor banning critical race theory expose themselves as hypocrites and thus increase the chance of the wokes getting their way. Anti CRT people who don’t favor cancelling CRT are guilty by association, their opposition to CRT assumed to come from their racism. These people do not understand that the whole CRT/1619 project nightmare is happening because the bad stuff was whitewashed.


Obviously, we are not on the same page. :?

Teaching history is one thing.
Blaming all people with caucasian "blood" is another.

Humiliating people is abhorrent.
Teaching people to hate is indefensible.

The concept of "Original Sin", as an example, is a nonsense.
It is intellectually cringe-worthy. 8)



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01 Oct 2021, 5:56 pm

It should be noted that APOM is very much against the "woke" phenomenon.



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01 Oct 2021, 6:23 pm

i find it interesting that in a supposed free country , we , as a country maintain a banned books list, on a federal basis .


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01 Oct 2021, 6:24 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
It should be noted that APOM is very much against the "woke" phenomenon.

who is "APOM"?



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01 Oct 2021, 6:35 pm

auntblabby wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
It should be noted that APOM is very much against the "woke" phenomenon.

who is "APOM"?


He is actually Amurrian. :mrgreen:
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ASPOM.



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01 Oct 2021, 6:37 pm

^^^TY for the info :study:



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01 Oct 2021, 6:46 pm

TY :D


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01 Oct 2021, 7:04 pm

Pepe wrote:
ASPartOfMe wrote:
Those who on one hand that go around complaining of the woke cancelling things and on the other hand favor banning critical race theory expose themselves as hypocrites and thus increase the chance of the wokes getting their way. Anti CRT people who don’t favor cancelling CRT are guilty by association, their opposition to CRT assumed to come from their racism. These people do not understand that the whole CRT/1619 project nightmare is happening because the bad stuff was whitewashed.


Obviously, we are not on the same page. :?

Teaching history is one thing.
Blaming all people with caucasian "blood" is another.

Humiliating people is abhorrent.
Teaching people to hate is indefensible.

The concept of "Original Sin", as an example, is a nonsense.
It is intellectually cringe-worthy. 8)

We are on the same anti woke, anti critical race theory page. I am against banning hateful ideas such as “anti racism” training. When anti woke people favor banning critical race theory they stoop to the level of the people they oppose and help the cause they oppose.


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01 Oct 2021, 7:55 pm

Can someone explain to me what critical race theory is exactly? I keep reading it but all these sights give very text book answers that are open to interpretation for me. Can someone go more in depth to it and the controversy surrounding it more so?



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01 Oct 2021, 8:04 pm

it was interesting growing up..... when i was little , i never knew the difference between black white or brown people, i was just delighted to see another person that waS my size . Amongst all the grown ups , there was somebody like me. So i instantly figured i had something in common with them .
And wanted to interact with them . Not for any other reason than height . Right away thought had nothing to fear from them . Then a 100% of the time . Was yanked away. Then drug off , normally was in my own world. Point was never knew the difference until i was taught it.

Is that what Critical Race theory is about.? :roll:

Found at five years old had know clue how to interact with a group of other children my own age .And they did not interact with me. But always gave my scooter pie to this one other child, whom had no sack lunch to eat.
Did not make them any friendluer, which was odd to me.


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01 Oct 2021, 8:05 pm

ASPartOfMe wrote:
Pepe wrote:
ASPartOfMe wrote:
Those who on one hand that go around complaining of the woke cancelling things and on the other hand favor banning critical race theory expose themselves as hypocrites and thus increase the chance of the wokes getting their way. Anti CRT people who don’t favor cancelling CRT are guilty by association, their opposition to CRT assumed to come from their racism. These people do not understand that the whole CRT/1619 project nightmare is happening because the bad stuff was whitewashed.


Obviously, we are not on the same page. :?

Teaching history is one thing.
Blaming all people with caucasian "blood" is another.

Humiliating people is abhorrent.
Teaching people to hate is indefensible.

The concept of "Original Sin", as an example, is a nonsense.
It is intellectually cringe-worthy. 8)

We are on the same anti woke, anti critical race theory page. I am against banning hateful ideas such as “anti racism” training. When anti woke people favor banning critical race theory they stoop to the level of the people they oppose and help the cause they oppose.


The problem is, teachers spreading political spin in the classrooms to impressionable children whose brains haven't fully developed reducing their critical thinking capacity.

Brainwashing Morals/values education should be left to the owners parents of the children, not to the government's Ministry of Truth. 8)