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05 Jan 2016, 2:29 am

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Let him try it.


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05 Jan 2016, 2:42 am

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My point is, while they are registered as Democrats, they are actually Republicans.


People can "self-identify" as Martians for all I care. If they're registered Democrats, they're registered Democrats. Which means they may not be able to vote in the Republican primary unless they formally change affiliation.

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That hardly makes Trump's supporters liberals by any stretch of the imagination.


Nobody said they were. Although, since you mention it, Trump has historically taken the typical Dem position on about everything but immigration. He sure ain't no libertarian.


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05 Jan 2016, 3:11 am

Most local elections are pick the Democrat. So register Democrat so you can vote against the one you do not like.

I remember Louisiana in 1963, Republicans met in a phone booth. No Republicans ran for office. Only the national vote for Goldwater counted.

Not enough, but Nixon and Reagan did get elected, by Democrats voting against the Democrat.

Democrats have always been the majority, but lose to minority Republicans.

These are the same Districts who have elected Republican Governors, and Congressmen.

Democrats claim to own the Blacks and Hispanics. That is somewhat true locally, but nationally they vote for the man. A Trump personality appeals to both groups.

Upon the death of Andrew Jackson one of his slaves was asked, "Will Massa Andrew go to heaven." "He will if he wants to," she replied. A dominate and self assured personality appeals to Blacks and Hispanics.

This election is not about Trump, it is a vote against the last thirty years. It is a vote against Republican and Democrat Washington.

The dissatisfied with the way things are going have polled an across the board 85%.



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05 Jan 2016, 3:49 am

Maybe some democrat supporters identify with Trump because he presents himself as something of a self-realized individual and some liberals eat that nonsense up with a knife and fork.

Of course those of us who are genuinely different and isolated from the rest of the human no that the individuality such a character like Trump presents us with is simply tacky and false.

You would all agree right?


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05 Jan 2016, 6:31 am

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Kraichgauer wrote:
My point is, while they are registered as Democrats, they are actually Republicans.


People can "self-identify" as Martians for all I care. If they're registered Democrats, they're registered Democrats. Which means they may not be able to vote in the Republican primary unless they formally change affiliation.

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That hardly makes Trump's supporters liberals by any stretch of the imagination.


Nobody said they were. Although, since you mention it, Trump has historically taken the typical Dem position on about everything but immigration. He sure ain't no libertarian.


There's a term for those voters: Reagan Democrats. Despite which party someone is affiliated with, it's the political philosophy they are personally beholden to that matters the most. These kind of voters hold very conservative views, but are union members, or at least recognize how it's the Republican party's best friend, big business, that's out to screw them, and so remain registered with the Democratic party.
And yes, Trump had once held many of the same opinions of the Democratic party. But he's proven himself to be a chameleon, taking on any political shade that will serve him best, rather than actually believing in a particular political ideology.


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05 Jan 2016, 12:44 pm

As we begin 2016, American political "conversation" is dominated by Trumpian bullies and social justice warrior bullies. This royally sucks so bad.


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05 Jan 2016, 1:36 pm

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reading some other forums, the behavior of the trump supporters by and large has been very bullying towards anybody who isn't a supporter, to the point of the trumpeters saying things like, "when we take over everything, you liberals are gonna have to conform or DIE!" IOW IMHO they are behaving like agents of fascist authority.


Yeah and the sad thing is some of them cant even come close to making the connection between their behavior, and the attitudes that help fascism and authoritarianism function.


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05 Jan 2016, 2:14 pm

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reading some other forums, the behavior of the trump supporters by and large has been very bullying towards anybody who isn't a supporter, to the point of the trumpeters saying things like, "when we take over everything, you liberals are gonna have to conform or DIE!" IOW IMHO they are behaving like agents of fascist authority.


Yeah and the sad thing is some of them cant even come close to making the connection between their behavior, and the attitudes that help fascism and authoritarianism function.

mebee one could refer to such folk as the "dunning kreugers" :alien:



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05 Jan 2016, 2:25 pm

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^ Would you liberals PLEASE get ahold of yourselves already.
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It would seem we're ahold of ourselves enough to realize, Trump is not a smart choice and that exreme nationalism and war mongering fear tactics like the right uses are dangerous to the well-being of the citizens. Perhaps you right wingers should get ahold of yourselves and quit encouraging people like trump.


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06 Jan 2016, 1:29 am

The watershed in this event is;

between people who think The United States of America, is the sole country on Earth where The People formed a Government, that upholds the concepts of Capitalism, The Free Market, upheld as a Constitutional Republic, Governing by the consent of the governed,

And those who think that Government Rules the People. All Socialism is Government ownership of the people and the other property of the State.

The mildest of Socialist governments were recently Kingdoms. The King owned his Subjects and everything in the Kingdom.

The United States of America overthrew the King, and set up the first and only system of self rule.

Where Kings ruled by Decree, America would be ruled by Law. There are ways to make new laws, amend old laws, and a process for doing so. Some Laws are held to a higher standard than others, they are included in The Bill of Rights.

A Tearful Barack at the Rainbow House is not mentioned as the sole Lawgiver.

The Government does not have a right to investigate every gun owner.

Well Comrade, if you have nothing to hide, why would you object?

I object because Due Process is spelled out in the Constitution.

Before he was allowed to take office, Barack Husain Obama had to swear an oath to protect and preserve the Constitution of The United States of America. Him rewriting it in his spare time, and changing it by Decree, is an impeachable offense.

If Hillary was not the leading Democrat, if she was anyone else who illegally took the official business of The United States of America, and forwarded it to foreign governments, she would be in jail. Other people have received life in prison for the same acts.

As Secretary of State she illegally diverted official business to her personal server. After being Secretary of State, she kept the connection, and continued to forward official classified documents to foreign governments. When caught, she tried to erase the evidence.

The question before us is, shall the Government, Elected and Appointed Officials, and the People, be ruled by The Constitution, the Laws, and Due Process, or shall Elected and Appointed Officials be Above the Law, Make Laws by Decree, and Rule The People?

I for one am sticking with a Constitutional Republic Ruled by Laws not men.



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06 Jan 2016, 4:08 am

Are you employing poetic license in creating your posts?


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06 Jan 2016, 10:20 am

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The watershed in this event is;

between people who think The United States of America, is the sole country on Earth where The People formed a Government, that upholds the concepts of Capitalism, The Free Market, upheld as a Constitutional Republic, Governing by the consent of the governed,

And those who think that Government Rules the People. All Socialism is Government ownership of the people and the other property of the State.

The mildest of Socialist governments were recently Kingdoms. The King owned his Subjects and everything in the Kingdom.

The United States of America overthrew the King, and set up the first and only system of self rule.

Where Kings ruled by Decree, America would be ruled by Law. There are ways to make new laws, amend old laws, and a process for doing so. Some Laws are held to a higher standard than others, they are included in The Bill of Rights.

A Tearful Barack at the Rainbow House is not mentioned as the sole Lawgiver.

The Government does not have a right to investigate every gun owner.

Well Comrade, if you have nothing to hide, why would you object?

I object because Due Process is spelled out in the Constitution.

Before he was allowed to take office, Barack Husain Obama had to swear an oath to protect and preserve the Constitution of The United States of America. Him rewriting it in his spare time, and changing it by Decree, is an impeachable offense.

If Hillary was not the leading Democrat, if she was anyone else who illegally took the official business of The United States of America, and forwarded it to foreign governments, she would be in jail. Other people have received life in prison for the same acts.

As Secretary of State she illegally diverted official business to her personal server. After being Secretary of State, she kept the connection, and continued to forward official classified documents to foreign governments. When caught, she tried to erase the evidence.

The question before us is, shall the Government, Elected and Appointed Officials, and the People, be ruled by The Constitution, the Laws, and Due Process, or shall Elected and Appointed Officials be Above the Law, Make Laws by Decree, and Rule The People?

I for one am sticking with a Constitutional Republic Ruled by Laws not men.

Dude, you for got your meds this morning...



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06 Jan 2016, 12:39 pm

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AntDog wrote:
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Let him try it.


Lol I thought the right wingers were upset Bernie called trump an ass and a liar or something like that, which was I think an accurate analysis...yet they're still pretending every last person on the left is completely obsessed with political correctness.


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06 Jan 2016, 6:56 pm

"A Tearful Barack at the Rainbow House is not mentioned as the sole Lawgiver. "

I find this line particularly fascinating.


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07 Jan 2016, 4:08 am

Trump is now blackmiling Scotland with his money.
If he is banned from the UK for his racist comments he has said he will not put "£800 million into Scottish golf courses.

His self importance means he really does think that money speaks louder than anything and that we are all for sale.

I know the Scots pride and they WILL turn around and say `stuff your money... we would rather not have it than be beholden to you telling us what to do` ... Who the hell do you think you are?

The biggest government petition ever in UK (500K signatures) against Trump and his racist comments and ideologise about banning Muslims entering the US has led to a debate in parliament about whether he should be BANNED FROM THE UK..... we hate this guy that bad here in the UK.

The OMG hypocrisy of him saying that us stopping him coming to UK will `prevent freedom os speech`. when just before he was talking about stopping all Muslims entering the US...... he regularly leaves you lost for words.

Its almost like he has no self awareness of the contradictory statements that come out of his tiny arse shaped mouth, and he genuinely doesn`t care (in fact relishes) the division they cause because it recruits all the crazies... and there are a hell of a lot of them of voting age out there.