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24 Jan 2019, 6:36 pm

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I want a Banana Republic

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and the banana republicans are all too eager to give us one, express! and without any k-y.



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24 Jan 2019, 6:42 pm

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communism would work better for me. capitalism doesn't work at all unless one is gifted.

Really? You and me would probably be killed under communism. We contribute nothing. Communism only keeps those who contribute around. Atleast under capitalism I am see as a cog in the machine. I can work min wage retail which shouldn’t exist under communism. Communism evaluated kids for their use then assigned them jobs from early age. Bill gates could have be doomed to be a janitor for rest of his life under communism.

Tens Millions starved to death under communism



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24 Jan 2019, 6:50 pm

capitalism has contributed to at least that many deaths around the globe, in one way or another. think about it.



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24 Jan 2019, 6:54 pm

The murderous socialist regime of Venezuela may be in its final days.

This Is How Socialism Ends
The evolutionary trajectory of socialism


... Everywhere that state ownership of capital is applied in the effort to crowd private enterprise out of society, it has produced misery and violence.

That violence begins with the state. It is the violence that suppresses dissent and transforms neighbors into informants, but that violence produces a reciprocal response from the oppressed. We’re now witnessing this familiar drama unfold in Venezuela, where violent revolutionary sentiments have periodically exploded and been ruthlessly suppressed for the better part of this decade.

The late Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez spent a decade nationalizing the means of production in the name of his socialist Revolutionary Bolivarian Movement. He expropriated privately owned oil exploration and production facilities and implemented onerous “windfall” taxes on foreign petroleum producers. He seized agricultural firms, fertilizer producers, livestock and rice operations, and land Caracas arbitrarily deemed “unproductive.” He nationalized much of the financial services industry in Venezuela, closing dozens of small and mid-size banks that did not lend at rates dictated by the government. Cement factories, glass makers, steel mills, the gold industry, telecommunications, transportation, power and electricity generation, and even tourist destinations were all subsumed under the control of the state.

The inevitable fruits of command economics—shortages, rationing, political dysfunction, and terror—were a feature of life in Venezuela even before Chavez’s death in 2013, but they intensified under his successor, Nicolas Maduro. Rates of murder and violent crime in Venezuela exploded. Narcotics trafficking is a way of life for civilians and members of the military alike. Rolling blackouts were and remain a near-daily experience. Running water is a luxury. Basic goods and amenities are scarce. Food and medicine are rationed, where they can be found at all. Preventable diseases like malaria, measles, and diphtheria are common. People started to flee with their families for the safety and security of stable market economies. And then the political violence began.


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24 Jan 2019, 6:56 pm

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capitalism has contributed to at least that many deaths around the globe, in one way or another. think about it.

Like the fact that capitalist countries exploit the hell out of third world countries by sucking their natural resources dry and leaving the local people to starve to death?



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24 Jan 2019, 7:04 pm

auntblabby wrote:
capitalism has contributed to at least that many deaths around the globe, in one way or another. think about it.

Not really and not directly



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24 Jan 2019, 7:09 pm

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capitalism has contributed to at least that many deaths around the globe, in one way or another. think about it.

Not really and not directly

Yes really and yes directly.



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24 Jan 2019, 7:52 pm

TW1ZTY wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
capitalism has contributed to at least that many deaths around the globe, in one way or another. think about it.

Like the fact that capitalist countries exploit the hell out of third world countries by sucking their natural resources dry and leaving the local people to starve to death?

that is one of the ways, yes. also, think of things like the triangle shirtwaist fire.



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24 Jan 2019, 7:54 pm

it is a continuing wonderment to me, why so many of the amuuuurican [exclusively amuuuurican, other nations' working classes have more sense] working class identifies so strongly with the upper classes? as though they really think they can join their ranks and leave the rest of us behind. :roll:



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24 Jan 2019, 8:11 pm

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it is a continuing wonderment to me, why so many of the amuuuurican [exclusively amuuuurican, other nations' working classes have more sense] working class identifies so strongly with the upper classes? as though they really think they can join their ranks and leave the rest of us behind. :roll:

Maybe because we started off as a country full of nobodies with big dreams? America is a country full of people who dreamed of making it big and many did. In this country it didn't matter if you came from nobility or commoners just as long as you worked hard to build a better life for yourself.

That's what this country used to be anyways. Boy have times changed, now hardwork gets you nowhere unless you already come from money.



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24 Jan 2019, 9:15 pm

TW1ZTY wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
it is a continuing wonderment to me, why so many of the amuuuurican [exclusively amuuuurican, other nations' working classes have more sense] working class identifies so strongly with the upper classes? as though they really think they can join their ranks and leave the rest of us behind. :roll:

Maybe because we started off as a country full of nobodies with big dreams? America is a country full of people who dreamed of making it big and many did. In this country it didn't matter if you came from nobility or commoners just as long as you worked hard to build a better life for yourself.

That's what this country used to be anyways. Boy have times changed, now hardwork gets you nowhere unless you already come from money.

when will our working class here finally pull their heads out from their nether regions and GET THIS?



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24 Jan 2019, 9:35 pm

In/out Burger managers make 160k/yr.
https://www.inc.com/bill-murphy-jr/mana ... works.html

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25 Jan 2019, 2:23 pm

That only shows that capitalism works better when capitalists act socialist.


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