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02 Oct 2021, 1:10 pm

That song doesn't really sell it for me. Maybe I listen to it wrong but I swear she sings about preachers on the corners selling crack.


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02 Oct 2021, 1:11 pm

There happen to be many nice parts of NYC.

I can understand the Northern English accent just fine :)



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02 Oct 2021, 1:15 pm

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There happen to be many nice parts of NYC.

I can understand the Northern English accent just fine :)


:lol: and I'm sure there are some lovely areas of NYC.


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02 Oct 2021, 1:18 pm

babybird wrote:
That song doesn't really sell it for me. Maybe I listen to it wrong but I swear she sings about preachers on the corners selling crack.


They do say religion is the opioid of the masses so it's not that much of a leap to picture them all as hustlers trying to sell little baggies of faith to religion addicts. :lol:


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02 Oct 2021, 1:20 pm

babybird wrote:
That song doesn't really sell it for me. Maybe I listen to it wrong but I swear she sings about preachers on the corners selling crack.


Every corner block needs a crack dealer.

I suppose comparing the US to the UK (seeing Mountain Goat is Welsh like me), we also have some weird laws but at least the courts are in a better shape. I think Brits are a bit more pacified but calmer and Americans are more "free" but holy God can they be crazy.



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02 Oct 2021, 1:25 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
There happen to be many nice parts of NYC.

I can understand the Northern English accent just fine :)


You should be on the board of tourism Krafti


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02 Oct 2021, 1:27 pm

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Those who on one hand that go around complaining of the woke cancelling things and on the other hand favor banning critical race theory expose themselves as hypocrites and thus increase the chance of the wokes getting their way. Anti CRT people who don’t favor cancelling CRT are guilty by association, their opposition to CRT assumed to come from their racism. These people do not understand that the whole CRT/1619 project nightmare is happening because the bad stuff was whitewashed.


Oh ... I see what he is saying.

He is saying that "Woke cancel culture" is a form of censorship. But banning the teaching of CRT is ALSO a form of censorship.

So ...if you're against censorship of one thing, but for censorship of the other thing its hyporcritical. And hypocritical a certain way...in showing that you're racist.

Regardless of where you stand on... the MANY issues intersecting in that statement (race, racism, censorship, education, etc) there IS a certain logic to what he is saying.


But I think the distinction here is that parents should decide on what is being taught in schools, and therefore, nothing is being censored from them since it's there call. No one is being censored against in that situation it seems, unless I am not seeing it.

Or if a school is going to teach CRT, don't make it mandatory and make it an elective course and not required?



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02 Oct 2021, 1:29 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
There happen to be many nice parts of NYC.

I can understand the Northern English accent just fine :)


McDonalds and Burger King are nice parts. Possibly that big ass street with all the lights as well and Central Park too.

Have you been listening to to many terrible Cheryl Cole songs?

Accents are strange and can actually make me feel really homesick. It might just be a personal thing to me but I feel out of place unless a hear that familiar singy songy Welsh accent but I can still understand all American and British accents, even the rubbish ones like Brummy and redneck.



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02 Oct 2021, 1:41 pm

I love the Brummy accent.

I reckon I'd have trouble distinguishing between American accents since all we really hear on TV are Americans who are really clearly spoken.

It's the same with English people on TV. They're not gonna put an English person in a blockbuster movie who sounds like me. You definitely would need subtitles.

My boyfriend is Scottish and I even have to slow it right down for him sometimes.


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02 Oct 2021, 1:53 pm

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I love the Brummy accent.

I reckon I'd have trouble distinguishing between American accents since all we really hear on TV are Americans who are really clearly spoken.

It's the same with English people on TV. They're not gonna put an English person in a blockbuster movie who sounds like me. You definitely would need subtitles.

My boyfriend is Scottish and I even have to slow it right down for him sometimes.


I think I actually wouldn't' have much in the way of trouble understanding run of the mill American accents. I think the clarity of the speaker matters a lot more than the accent.



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02 Oct 2021, 2:55 pm

ironpony wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
ironpony wrote:
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ASPartOfMe wrote:
Those who on one hand that go around complaining of the woke cancelling things and on the other hand favor banning critical race theory expose themselves as hypocrites and thus increase the chance of the wokes getting their way. Anti CRT people who don’t favor cancelling CRT are guilty by association, their opposition to CRT assumed to come from their racism. These people do not understand that the whole CRT/1619 project nightmare is happening because the bad stuff was whitewashed.


Oh ... I see what he is saying.

He is saying that "Woke cancel culture" is a form of censorship. But banning the teaching of CRT is ALSO a form of censorship.

So ...if you're against censorship of one thing, but for censorship of the other thing its hyporcritical. And hypocritical a certain way...in showing that you're racist.

Regardless of where you stand on... the MANY issues intersecting in that statement (race, racism, censorship, education, etc) there IS a certain logic to what he is saying.


But I think the distinction here is that parents should decide on what is being taught in schools, and therefore, nothing is being censored from them since it's there call. No one is being censored against in that situation it seems, unless I am not seeing it.

Or if a school is going to teach CRT, don't make it mandatory and make it an elective course and not required?


The thing is, schools do NOT teach CRT. It would be a law school or specialized university study thing if anything; and those students are adults, parents no longer involved.


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02 Oct 2021, 3:21 pm

Oh well if schools are not teaching it, then what are parents complaining about then?



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02 Oct 2021, 3:55 pm

am a Yank and sometimes have trouble understanding some midwestern accents that are near oklahoma ... but have a terrible time with Cockney accents from that area of the UK . Especially if spoken quickly . I cant even pretend to understand them . 8O


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02 Oct 2021, 4:01 pm

Jakki wrote:
am a Yank and sometimes have trouble understanding some midwestern accents that are near oklahoma ... but have a terrible time with Cockney accents from that area of the UK . Especially if spoken quickly . I cant even pretend to understand them . 8O


Did you find that film difficult to understand in my Colin Firth thread?


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02 Oct 2021, 4:18 pm

babybird wrote:
That song doesn't really sell it for me. Maybe I listen to it wrong but I swear she sings about preachers on the corners selling crack.


She sings about how you see working girls, and crack sellers, on the same street corners as you see Bible thumping preachers. NOT about "preachers selling crack". :roll: The point being that its a crazy mix of humanity.



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02 Oct 2021, 4:20 pm

smudge wrote:
Jakki wrote:
am a Yank and sometimes have trouble understanding some midwestern accents that are near oklahoma ... but have a terrible time with Cockney accents from that area of the UK . Especially if spoken quickly . I cant even pretend to understand them . 8O


Did you find that film difficult to understand in my Colin Firth thread?


Could not locate Colin Firth thread sorry .


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