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clumsy instruments are the best that our balkanized political system can create.

The entire law is collapsing under its own weight just as predicted, these horror stories aren't going away even when they fix the website and if they don't fix the website soon and don't get people(young and healthy ones in particular) signing up en masse in a short amount of time then rates will skyrocket more since the insurance companies have to cover preexisting conditions and the most sick people needing healthcare will be the ones most motivated to sign up. You can't fine someone if it doesn't work can you? Not only that, MILLIONS of people are being kicked off their insurance policies because of Obamacare so you're probably going to see a net loss in the insured next year.

Democrats are going to wish they did delay the law when they had the chance, 2014 isn't looking good and you can see the D senators up for reelection start to squirm. It's hilarious given how confident they were that they would be able to hang the government shutdown on the GOP.

Obamacare is part of a Progressive program to destroy the private delivery of medical services in the United States. When privately provided care comes to a grinding halt and ruination the people will scream and beg for a Single Payer government operated medical system just like they have in Canada.

Then the next time you want a cat scan you will have to wait a few months unlike me. I got a cat scan and a set of x-rays of my spine the afternoon I went into to the center that specialized in that sort of scanning. It seams that I have the beginning of spinal stenosis which as a form of arthritis that has been giving me pain of late. I got service right away. If I had been in Canada I would have waited weeks or even months since my condition is not life threatening. Just painful. That is what is in store for the United States.

ruveyn

for those who don't make enough duckie$ for prompt care, delayed care is STILL better than NO care. ER doesn't count because it is punitively and financially ruinous for those who use it.

That's something the right refuses to consider. Delayed medical help is better then no medical help.

that's because the right sees the plight of the working poor as a negative reinforcement for any backsliding middle-classers.

They don't seem to realize just how soul breaking that backsliding is. Faced with such an inescapable fate, many give into black depression and have nowhere else to go but to sink.

and all the righties have to say to that [with a sneer] is "well, that's life in the big city."

I'd like to see how they would fare if they were made to live under such soul wrecking circumstances.

likely they would yell "UNFAIR!! !" the earliest, the loudest and the longest.

Of that fact I have no doubt.

While I will definitely agree that the implementation of the individual mandate should have been delayed, I do not agree that the law is collapsing at all. Give it some time and you will likely see that most of those who were dropped by insurance companies will get better insurance at a lower net cost to them. As for the plans that are being cancelled, every one of them could have been grandfathered in provided they had made no changes to their plans. If any changes were made, then they would be held to the minimum standards. The requirements for the minimum standards also would not kick in for these plans that made changes until 1/1/2015, which means the insurance companies are dropping people because it would be more profitable for them to have those people enroll in plans that are not limited in their rate increases.

As for the tax for not being insured, they definitely can issue them. (1) The website is not the only place to sign up. (2) You have until March 31, 2014 to sign up. (3) The federal website was primarily supposed to be a place to compare plans. (4) Every individual state was supposed to set up their own exchanges (which is why the federal government had to scramble to assemble one after so many Republican controlled states refused).

If the two states with the most uninsured by far (Texas and Florida) weren't trying to pass laws left and right to limit the number of people enrolling and to make it d*mn hard for anyone who does manage to sign up, you would likely see much higher numbers. Both states are making it as hard as possible for people to have access to the navigators that could help people sign up.

As for 2014 elections, there is plenty of time for the Republicans and the Democrats to screw the pooch between now and then, so don't count your chickens just yet. If you are looking for a Republican sweep, I feel you will be quite disappointed. I also think that as the bugs are worked out in the enrollment proccess, people in states where the Republicans are trying to hinder the ACA are going to look at how well blue states have handled the issue and are going to start getting pissed off. I think Texas is at the most risk. Since they refused Medicaid expansion, there are going to be more than a million pissed off poor people who could be insured right now. And nothing motivates a voter more than anger.

They were soooo willing to cut and run even before the website issues. Where was this attitude when we were waging war? Oh no, then it was SURGE! Because war is important to them and insuring the middle class is not.

that tells you who their masters are, and it ain't us.

So, have you guys signed up for ACA. If you don't you can be fined.

ruveyn

I signed up on oct. 1 but due to technical snafus [and a dx'ed case of outright ID theft, somebody had stolen my SSN which If I hadn't have had to sign up might have never known about until too late] was not able to finalize until the 3rd week of October.