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01 Mar 2016, 11:32 am

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We will have a better idea after tonight but I expect Trump to run away with the nomination and lose the election to Clinton with the anti Trump feeling leading to Democratic gains in Congress and elsewhere. Clinton may well be indicted after the election. The possible wildcard is a report by NBC news yesterday that the Republican establishment is talking about running a third party candidate such as Mitt Romney. I think it is too late for that, the signatures have to be in soon.

Regardless of who wins the forces that have been unleashed will not be contained. I expect election day to resemble third world countries with violence the polls and the losing side refusing to accept the results feeling it was a conspiracy. If the Democrats lose I do not expect them to accept it peacefully like in 2000.

As divided as we have been protesters at candidate rallies until now have been booed and josled a bit up until now, but at Trump rallies they are getting the s**t kicked out of them. It is hard to tell what a Trump presidency will look like but that in my view what a Trump presidency will be like or if he is elected is almost secondary to the forces unleashed by the Trump phenomenon. I have Mexican American family and have already heard reports from them of people bieng hassled by people yelling "Trump Trump". Decades of anti bullying efforts is in danger of bieng lost. I would be remiss if I did not note that the Trump phenomenon is not just about economic conditions and hating others but in part a reaction to some progressives imposing their will on what language you may use. If my prediction of a Democratic victory and especially if there is a republican schism the SJW bullies will be emboldened and those who are complaining now about them will look upon 2016 as the good old days.

As for Autistics I hope I am wrong but the the only difference who wins will is the type of hell that is ahead. If Trump wins while minorities will be the top target of bullies but the disabled will receive our share. After a progressive landslide Autistic individuality and difference will be viewed as a treasonous threat. A lot of progressives look at anybody not like them as dumb. How do you think they will look at Autistics? Remember Autism Speaks was founded and is headquartered in NYC and the Judge Rotenburg Center located in Massachusetts blue states. Of course since the country is split 50/50 so if there is a deadlock we get the worst of both worlds.


Hillary would lose in a landslide if the Democrats are stupid enough to nominate her, she belongs in prison and is one of the most unlikable inauthentic people we've ever seen in public life. There likely won't be a wave, Democrats have zero chance at picking up the house and the only reason they can make a push for the senate is just because of the number of seats the GOP has to defend versus them. Good luck tho trying to run Hollywood actresses, abortion enthusiasts, and gay big city mayors in the south but I don't think that's a strategy that is ever going to work.

People are very angry, there is a massive enthusiasm gap, Hillary and Bill's crimes will be exposed. Hillary has nightmares about being on the stage with Trump, Rubio is by far the weakest candidate in either party yet is getting trumpeted by the media nonstop? It's all a rigged game, we are being controlled and they scared as s**t that they are losing control.



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01 Mar 2016, 11:44 am

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We will have a better idea after tonight but I expect Trump to run away with the nomination and lose the election to Clinton with the anti Trump feeling leading to Democratic gains in Congress and elsewhere. Clinton may well be indicted after the election. The possible wildcard is a report by NBC news yesterday that the Republican establishment is talking about running a third party candidate such as Mitt Romney. I think it is too late for that, the signatures have to be in soon.

Regardless of who wins the forces that have been unleashed will not be contained. I expect election day to resemble third world countries with violence the polls and the losing side refusing to accept the results feeling it was a conspiracy. If the Democrats lose I do not expect them to accept it peacefully like in 2000.

As divided as we have been protesters at candidate rallies until now have been booed and josled a bit up until now, but at Trump rallies they are getting the s**t kicked out of them. It is hard to tell what a Trump presidency will look like but that in my view what a Trump presidency will be like or if he is elected is almost secondary to the forces unleashed by the Trump phenomenon. I have Mexican American family and have already heard reports from them of people bieng hassled by people yelling "Trump Trump". Decades of anti bullying efforts is in danger of bieng lost. I would be remiss if I did not note that the Trump phenomenon is not just about economic conditions and hating others but in part a reaction to some progressives imposing their will on what language you may use. If my prediction of a Democratic victory and especially if there is a republican schism the SJW bullies will be emboldened and those who are complaining now about them will look upon 2016 as the good old days.

As for Autistics I hope I am wrong but the the only difference who wins will is the type of hell that is ahead. If Trump wins while minorities will be the top target of bullies but the disabled will receive our share. After a progressive landslide Autistic individuality and difference will be viewed as a treasonous threat. A lot of progressives look at anybody not like them as dumb. How do you think they will look at Autistics? Remember Autism Speaks was founded and is headquartered in NYC and the Judge Rotenburg Center located in Massachusetts blue states. Of course since the country is split 50/50 so if there is a deadlock we get the worst of both worlds.


Hillary would lose in a landslide if the Democrats are stupid enough to nominate her, she belongs in prison and is one of the most unlikable inauthentic people we've ever seen in public life. There likely won't be a wave, Democrats have zero chance at picking up the house and the only reason they can make a push for the senate is just because of the number of seats the GOP has to defend versus them. Good luck tho trying to run Hollywood actresses, abortion enthusiasts, and gay big city mayors in the south but I don't think that's a strategy that is ever going to work.

People are very angry, there is a massive enthusiasm gap, Hillary and Bill's crimes will be exposed. Hillary has nightmares about being on the stage with Trump, Rubio is by far the weakest candidate in either party yet is getting trumpeted by the media nonstop? It's all a rigged game, we are being controlled and they scared as s**t that they are losing control.


Seriously, now. While Hilary is not a likable person, the fact is, she had been grilled and re-grilled by Republicans concerning Benghazi in their committee investigations, and she has come back unscathed, because there is nothing there to find. Most Americans in fact have come to realize the Benghazi hearings were nothing but political games to derail her Presidential ambitions. And if she could bear up to that, an uninformed blowhard like Trump would be no problem. And this is coming from a Bernie Sanders supporter!
And who cares what the South thinks? The election will probably hinge on the east and west coasts where people aren't afraid of abortion lovers, and gay mayors.


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01 Mar 2016, 11:54 am

No love for Hillary out there for sure but to ironically to use a phrase coined by Richard Nixon's people 45 years ago there is a "silent majority" out there that do not believe America stands for the hatred or at least open hatred of others expressed in this campaign, nor think that Trumps "personality" is what they want in thier President. The Trump people are a very significant portion of the voters,loud about it, and Trump is a media magnet leading in my view to a false perception that they are more popular then they are. Primary voters have in both parties are always more radical for lack of a better word then the general election voters.


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01 Mar 2016, 11:55 am

Hillary can think she put the Benghazi thing to bed but it can be something talked about until the cows come home, Hillary Clinton was the worst Secretary of State of all time and the worlds is a much more dangerous place for allowing her hands on power. She is a total failure on foreign policy, she has zero principles domestically, she has been against everything she is for at one point or another, she can't even run on her husband's legacy because she has to disavow every accomplishment he had.

All this stuff is just scratching the surface with Hillary, there is more than 30 years of stuff to drudge back up this election season and it will stick now because the Clinton BS magic has worn off and people can see thru it. The Clinton's were the foremost slut shamers of the 90s, that was how they defended all the many many allegations made against Bill and analogous Bill Cosby.

She will be so easy to run against



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01 Mar 2016, 12:01 pm

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Hillary can think she put the Benghazi thing to bed but it can be something talked about until the cows come home, Hillary Clinton was the worst Secretary of State of all time and the worlds is a much more dangerous place for allowing her hands on power. She is a total failure on foreign policy, she has zero principles domestically, she has been against everything she is for at one point or another, she can't even run on her husband's legacy because she has to disavow every accomplishment he had.

All this stuff is just scratching the surface with Hillary, there is more than 30 years of stuff to drudge back up this election season and it will stick now because the Clinton BS magic has worn off and people can see thru it. The Clinton's were the foremost slut shamers of the 90s, that was how they defended all the many many allegations made against Bill and analogous Bill Cosby.

She will be so easy to run against


Then again, Republicans thought Romney was such a sure thing that they had convinced themselves that the polls showing Obama ahead were biased. Then they were totally flabbergasted on election day.
And despite Clinton's failings, I think the majority of Americans are scared poopless by Trump, especially non-white Americans.


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01 Mar 2016, 12:08 pm

Trump's popularity is very easy to understand

1 immigration 2 trade 3 stop fighting stupid wars 4 infrastructure

no other candidate in the Republican party spoke to these issues or was allowed to against entrenched establishment, Trump being a celebrity can withstand these slanderous attacks against his character because he's spent the last 30 years of his life in the public sphere and has 100% name recognition so establishment way of squashing their opponents by branding them to the public who has no idea who they are.


whenever you start talking those issues, whenever populism becomes a threat, the entrenched powers that be always and I mean always scream racism, hitler, whatever scaremongering they can think of. Our country is being gutted by the globalists, our quality of life is going to go down and down and down to that of the third world while gilded class behind closed gates will never feel the pain of the consequences of their actions just us.



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01 Mar 2016, 12:15 pm

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Jacoby wrote:
Hillary can think she put the Benghazi thing to bed but it can be something talked about until the cows come home, Hillary Clinton was the worst Secretary of State of all time and the worlds is a much more dangerous place for allowing her hands on power. She is a total failure on foreign policy, she has zero principles domestically, she has been against everything she is for at one point or another, she can't even run on her husband's legacy because she has to disavow every accomplishment he had.

All this stuff is just scratching the surface with Hillary, there is more than 30 years of stuff to drudge back up this election season and it will stick now because the Clinton BS magic has worn off and people can see thru it. The Clinton's were the foremost slut shamers of the 90s, that was how they defended all the many many allegations made against Bill and analogous Bill Cosby.

She will be so easy to run against


Then again, Republicans thought Romney was such a sure thing that they had convinced themselves that the polls showing Obama ahead were biased. Then they were totally flabbergasted on election day.
And despite Clinton's failings, I think the majority of Americans are scared poopless by Trump, especially non-white Americans.


Trump appeals to a large subsection of the Democratic party and will win more union support since any Republican since at least Reagan, something like 25% of Democrats said they could cross over to vote for Trump and you seriously underestimate the popularity of Trump's platform among poor minority community who bare the brunt of these heartless modern day plantation owners.

The only people flabbergasted by Romney being a flop are the same people that are flabbergasted about Trump now, Romney was a candidate forced upon the base by the establishment. A squishy Wall Street owned non-contender, the bets were hedged.



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01 Mar 2016, 1:43 pm

Jacoby wrote:
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Jacoby wrote:
Hillary can think she put the Benghazi thing to bed but it can be something talked about until the cows come home, Hillary Clinton was the worst Secretary of State of all time and the worlds is a much more dangerous place for allowing her hands on power. She is a total failure on foreign policy, she has zero principles domestically, she has been against everything she is for at one point or another, she can't even run on her husband's legacy because she has to disavow every accomplishment he had.

All this stuff is just scratching the surface with Hillary, there is more than 30 years of stuff to drudge back up this election season and it will stick now because the Clinton BS magic has worn off and people can see thru it. The Clinton's were the foremost slut shamers of the 90s, that was how they defended all the many many allegations made against Bill and analogous Bill Cosby.

She will be so easy to run against


Then again, Republicans thought Romney was such a sure thing that they had convinced themselves that the polls showing Obama ahead were biased. Then they were totally flabbergasted on election day.
And despite Clinton's failings, I think the majority of Americans are scared poopless by Trump, especially non-white Americans.


Trump appeals to a large subsection of the Democratic party and will win more union support since any Republican since at least Reagan, something like 25% of Democrats said they could cross over to vote for Trump and you seriously underestimate the popularity of Trump's platform among poor minority community who bare the brunt of these heartless modern day plantation owners.

The only people flabbergasted by Romney being a flop are the same people that are flabbergasted about Trump now, Romney was a candidate forced upon the base by the establishment. A squishy Wall Street owned non-contender, the bets were hedged.

What kind of drugs are you using and why aren't you sharing?



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01 Mar 2016, 2:10 pm

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Jacoby wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
Hillary can think she put the Benghazi thing to bed but it can be something talked about until the cows come home, Hillary Clinton was the worst Secretary of State of all time and the worlds is a much more dangerous place for allowing her hands on power. She is a total failure on foreign policy, she has zero principles domestically, she has been against everything she is for at one point or another, she can't even run on her husband's legacy because she has to disavow every accomplishment he had.

All this stuff is just scratching the surface with Hillary, there is more than 30 years of stuff to drudge back up this election season and it will stick now because the Clinton BS magic has worn off and people can see thru it. The Clinton's were the foremost slut shamers of the 90s, that was how they defended all the many many allegations made against Bill and analogous Bill Cosby.

She will be so easy to run against


Then again, Republicans thought Romney was such a sure thing that they had convinced themselves that the polls showing Obama ahead were biased. Then they were totally flabbergasted on election day.
And despite Clinton's failings, I think the majority of Americans are scared poopless by Trump, especially non-white Americans.


Trump appeals to a large subsection of the Democratic party and will win more union support since any Republican since at least Reagan, something like 25% of Democrats said they could cross over to vote for Trump and you seriously underestimate the popularity of Trump's platform among poor minority community who bare the brunt of these heartless modern day plantation owners.

The only people flabbergasted by Romney being a flop are the same people that are flabbergasted about Trump now, Romney was a candidate forced upon the base by the establishment. A squishy Wall Street owned non-contender, the bets were hedged.

What kind of drugs are you using and why aren't you sharing?


I resent the accusation, I always share :P



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01 Mar 2016, 4:47 pm

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Hillary can think she put the Benghazi thing to bed but it can be something talked about until the cows come home, Hillary Clinton was the worst Secretary of State of all time and the worlds is a much more dangerous place for allowing her hands on power. She is a total failure on foreign policy, she has zero principles domestically, she has been against everything she is for at one point or another, she can't even run on her husband's legacy because she has to disavow every accomplishment he had.

All this stuff is just scratching the surface with Hillary, there is more than 30 years of stuff to drudge back up this election season and it will stick now because the Clinton BS magic has worn off and people can see thru it. The Clinton's were the foremost slut shamers of the 90s, that was how they defended all the many many allegations made against Bill and analogous Bill Cosby.

She will be so easy to run against


Then again, Republicans thought Romney was such a sure thing that they had convinced themselves that the polls showing Obama ahead were biased. Then they were totally flabbergasted on election day.
And despite Clinton's failings, I think the majority of Americans are scared poopless by Trump, especially non-white Americans.


Trump appeals to a large subsection of the Democratic party and will win more union support since any Republican since at least Reagan, something like 25% of Democrats said they could cross over to vote for Trump and you seriously underestimate the popularity of Trump's platform among poor minority community who bare the brunt of these heartless modern day plantation owners.

The only people flabbergasted by Romney being a flop are the same people that are flabbergasted about Trump now, Romney was a candidate forced upon the base by the establishment. A squishy Wall Street owned non-contender, the bets were hedged.


Despite the fact that minorities have been left out to dry by the elites, it's unlikely that many of them will give him their support as long as he's railing against brown people due to illegal status, or due to their religion, and due to endorsements by racists, regardless if he repudiates those endorsements or not.


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01 Mar 2016, 4:51 pm

I've spoken to quite a few people. Those people are all over the political spectrum. I've never met anybody who says a kind word about Trump.

They are scared of him, frankly, and the fear is growing. Conservative and Liberal both. People are actually talking about emigrating to Canada should he be elected.

I sense a strong backlash against him coming in the near future.



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01 Mar 2016, 5:13 pm

Maybe Canada will have to build a wall if Trump is elected, to keep out a mass immigration of USA citizens fleeing from the government of McCarthylike persecution..



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01 Mar 2016, 5:28 pm

In November, I could see white working-class Democrats break for Trump. They are probably disillusioned with the focus on social issues rather than economic issues and with things like NAFTA, which the Clintons pushed.


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01 Mar 2016, 6:45 pm

I'm working class. People are actually saying, with sincerity, that Trump is unstable; not even Goldwater was thought of as being unstable in 1964.

I'm no Cruz or Rubio lover---but his accusations about them not being American citizens are ridiculous, and detract from the issues.

Trump is just a publicity-hound, really. And, if elected, will be a figurehead president, at most.

I wish we had some REAL political discourse. Not this World-Wide Wrestling crap.



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01 Mar 2016, 6:49 pm

Yes the wwf comes to politics<laughs>


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01 Mar 2016, 6:58 pm

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I'm working class. People are actually saying, with sincerity, that Trump is unstable; not even Goldwater was thought of as being unstable in 1964.

I'm no Cruz or Rubio lover---but his accusations about them not being American citizens are ridiculous, and detract from the issues.

Trump is just a publicity-hound, really. And, if elected, will be a figurehead president, at most.

I wish we had some REAL political discourse. Not this World-Wide Wrestling crap.


You watch too much cable news

lol @ the idea of real political discourse

look at all the questions asked in the debates "Donald Trump said this", "this is important to conservatives, do you trust Trump on this as the nominee?" "such and such said this about Donald Trump do you agree?", and a million different iterations. They don't talk about the economy in the debates, they do not talk about these disastrous trade deals, they try to even avoid immigration since Rubio is liar and amnesty proponent but the rich rich 1%ers in this country want that unlimited flow of cheap labor that steals American jobs and undercuts American workers. It's all loaded gotcha questions because our media acts on behalf the multinational corporations that use the news and the flow of information to their benefit which is not to the benefit of the American people.

It's funny you bring up Goldwater consider the evil evil man LBJ was, a man very likely responsible for murdering the president and personally profited off the escalation of the war in Vietnam. Goldwater wasn't unhinged, he was just the victim of a nationwide smear campaign to make him look like the guy who would start nuclear armageddon when instead Goldwater's point was if we're not in Vietnam to win then we should not be over there at all. This country would of been much better off with Goldwater as president than LBJ or Nixon.