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03 Oct 2021, 10:17 pm

But I don't understand why white people are considered evil, when look at what is going in other continents. There is genocide going on in Africa over the last three decades or more for example. Look at Rwanda for example. Or look at what the Japanese did to other nations of people during WWII. So I don't get how I am suppose to feel that white people are the bad guys only.



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03 Oct 2021, 10:54 pm

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But I don't understand why white people are considered evil, when look at what is going in other continents. There is genocide going on in Africa over the last three decades or more for example. Look at Rwanda for example. Or look at what the Japanese did to other nations of people during WWII. So I don't get how I am suppose to feel that white people are the bad guys only.


I've never been part of any theory, nor am I aware of any theory, that claims white people are evil solely for being white. Not to say there might not be a few people who take the concept to that extreme, but it wouldn't be accurate. Being accurate, IMHO, would be to say that historically many white people in this country have acted in ways that harm and hold back others, and have held beliefs designed to justify the subjugation of others. There is no claim that no one else in the history or human kind or elsewhere hasn't done the same. We can only each be responsible for ourselves, and what we see immediately around us.

I long ago came to believe that if humans weren't using race to separate themselves, they would use something else. Self-sorting, and attempting to put oneself into the "better" box, seems to be human nature. Your examples are part of the proof for that idea. But the fact that it seems to be instinctive doesn't make it right.

What is being asked of us at this point in time in this country, the way I hear it, is to simply open our eyes and accept that the history of what happened carries implications into the present, and those implications give you and me privileges that someone of a different racial history most likely does not have. We are being asked to LISTEN, more than anything. To understand what life is like for someone else, solely because of the skin they were born into, and then, perhaps, support policy changes designed to make things better for them (not that there is any universal agreement on what such policies would look like, at this point in time).

It is the choices you make facing that request that can make your behavior on the issue "good" or "bad." It isn't predetermined.


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04 Oct 2021, 6:17 am

Everything's free in America


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04 Oct 2021, 6:55 am

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Everything's free in America

For a small fee, in America. :mrgreen:



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04 Oct 2021, 7:35 am

I've been stopped by the police. I was running in a "wrong" neighborhood once, and was stopped because it was thought I bought drugs from somebody in some building. I had to show my work ID in order not to get arrested.

Another time, a "bulge" in my sweatpants was mistaken for a gun. It was actually my keys.

When I was 16, I fit the description of someone who robbed a store, so I was stopped and thrown to the side of a police car.

I've been followed around in stores because I used to dress like crap.

I've had a few days (not many) over the years where I "didn't know where my next meal was coming from."

I've been taunted because (1) I am white, and (2) I am Jewish. In some neighborhoods, when I would walk with a black woman, I would get threats.

I'm not necessarily arguing AGAINST the existence of "white privilege" and systemic racism. All I'm saying is that people who profess to believe in a CRT ideology tend to overdo it, and to generalize, and to make wrong assumptions.



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04 Oct 2021, 7:43 am

Sorry, DW a Mom....I didn't mean, literally, that the students were segregated in separate "classes."

I was speaking of "class" in terms of "working class," "middle class."



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04 Oct 2021, 10:27 am

 ! Cornflake wrote:
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I find it extremely frustrating that you don't read on to find out what I've done with a counterpoint before passing an "is" judgement on me.

Because sometimes I actually do take new data in. I'm not all fight all the time.


You are speaking with The Oracle of truth.
Someone who has spent virtually their entire life getting to the Truth.
Embrace my wisdom and become enlightened.
Om mani padme hum. 8)

While you do seem to have a desire to adopt the scientific methodology, you also seem to view the world from a leftist perspective, *consistently*.

The odourous skunk has spoken. 8)


Pepe, that's enough with the trolling thank you.

If you have nothing relevant to add then say nothing.


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04 Oct 2021, 5:30 pm

its the 21st century , people are now just people , unless they are committing crimes against someone. ( at least i would hope) If your going to commit crimes based on primitive cutural stereotypes then a prison is a better place to carry on like that. imho.


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04 Oct 2021, 5:40 pm

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I think it'd be pretty cool to live in America. I'd have to have plenty of money though and a nice pad. Preferably in New York City.

The trouble is is that no one would be able to understand my northern English accent so I'd have to repeat myself quite a lot and then I'd end up just coming back home and after that I would decide that I'm actually glad that I don't live in America.

if you were rich enough to live in a "nice pad" in NYC, you could easily afford a "translator." ;)



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04 Oct 2021, 5:41 pm

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Everything's free in America

i won't buy that for a dollar. ;)



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04 Oct 2021, 5:44 pm

^^ I want to live in a house exactly like SSSniperwolf's (Or the one she presents out of I'm sure many houses she owns) with great views over a city from a mountain. I want her dogs too. I want to BE SSSniperwolf.


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04 Oct 2021, 6:01 pm

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^^ I want to live in a house exactly like SSSniperwolf's (Or the one she presents out of I'm sure many houses she owns) with great views over a city from a mountain. I want her dogs too. I want to BE SSSniperwolf.

i'd be reasonably happy if my present tin can was atop a wooded cliff overlooking the pacific ocean, with a pathway leading to the beach below. :)



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04 Oct 2021, 6:18 pm

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Mental health issues and guns and schools have been with us for a very long time. And heavily populated schools And neighbourhoods also have been around for
a long time . These issues have been magnified by our mass media.


You're butting up against something I've been saying for a long time, that prior to the mass media era you could buy a machine gun over the counter for cash, order a rifle in the mail, buy dynamite at the hardware store, etc, and no one ever seemed to have thought to shoot up their school or place of work until comparatively recently. It's a media driven plague, though I wouldn't go so far as to call it intentional, but the coverage definitely feeds into more incidents as down and out losers see how much coverage these crimes get and realize they too can get all that attention by doing something awful.


I've only just noticed this. I never knew you could buy dynamite there, blimey.


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04 Oct 2021, 6:21 pm

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smudge wrote:
^^ I want to live in a house exactly like SSSniperwolf's (Or the one she presents out of I'm sure many houses she owns) with great views over a city from a mountain. I want her dogs too. I want to BE SSSniperwolf.

i'd be reasonably happy if my present tin can was atop a wooded cliff overlooking the pacific ocean, with a pathway leading to the beach below. :)


I wouldn't mind an ocean view either. I seem to be drawn to cities. I like the way cityscapes light up at night, like stars.


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04 Oct 2021, 6:32 pm

auntblabby wrote:
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^^ I want to live in a house exactly like SSSniperwolf's (Or the one she presents out of I'm sure many houses she owns) with great views over a city from a mountain. I want her dogs too. I want to BE SSSniperwolf.

i'd be reasonably happy if my present tin can was atop a wooded cliff overlooking the pacific ocean, with a pathway leading to the beach below. :)


me too..as long as the cliff was stable. 8O :D


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04 Oct 2021, 6:40 pm

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^^ I want to live in a house exactly like SSSniperwolf's (Or the one she presents out of I'm sure many houses she owns) with great views over a city from a mountain. I want her dogs too. I want to BE SSSniperwolf.

i'd be reasonably happy if my present tin can was atop a wooded cliff overlooking the pacific ocean, with a pathway leading to the beach below. :)


I wouldn't mind an ocean view either. I seem to be drawn to cities. I like the way cityscapes light up at night, like stars.

the best place to be then would be a place like sunset beach at the end of the strip in LA, get the best of both worlds but you have to be megamillionairish to live there.