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15 Sep 2009, 1:56 am

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I was with you until you said you support Ahmedinejad.


whats wrong with supporting ahmadinejad? other than that your not supposed to support him, according to big-happy-western-media...


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15 Sep 2009, 8:24 am

In conclusion Ahmedinejad is not bad for the Jews, Zionism is not the same thing as Judaism and Anti Zionism is not the same thing as Anti Semitism



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16 Sep 2009, 7:25 pm

ZEGH8578 wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
I was with you until you said you support Ahmedinejad.


whats wrong with supporting ahmadinejad? other than that your not supposed to support him, according to big-happy-western-media...


Well, off the top of my head: He's a nutjob.



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16 Sep 2009, 8:47 pm

Zionism is completely based on racial nationalism. The idea of "God's chosen people" is racism disguised in religion. Without the religious claims behind it, zionism would have no moral justification at all. As far as I'm concerned, zionism has no moral justification at all. I blame the media for all these irrational views imposed on us.



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17 Sep 2009, 9:51 am

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Zionism is completely based on racial nationalism. The idea of "God's chosen people" is racism disguised in religion. Without the religious claims behind it, zionism would have no moral justification at all. As far as I'm concerned, zionism has no moral justification at all. I blame the media for all these irrational views imposed on us.


But they're the CHOSEN PEOPLE.

Are you chosen? Obviously not!! ! Do you belong to the "race" of people who control Hollywood and the majority of the western media? Obviously not. So obviously you're not chosen. I mean these people MUST be special to be thrown into a place in the world where water is a precious commodity and rockets and bombs fly daily and everyone around them believes that killing themselves to make sure others die will get them into their god's good graces....you HAVE to be the chosen people to be given such a privileged life and it's a life that we, as the rest of the world, must protect because they are, afterall, the CHOSEN PEOPLE.


/sarcasm
//no jews were hurt in the making of this sarcastic joke-rant.
///but a couple probably will still be pissed off because they might be chosen but not for their brains.


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17 Sep 2009, 10:00 am

Nations will not matter anymore... all people will become united under one global country.


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17 Sep 2009, 10:04 am

Anubis wrote:
Nations will not matter anymore... all people will become united under one global country.


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^Probably the only way that all people will be united into one global community.


/for those unfamiliar with the story, read "Watchmen" by Alan Moore (DO NOT watch the movie, it loses the entire meaning behind the book...but the motion comics are a suitable substitute).


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17 Sep 2009, 10:08 am

skafather84 wrote:
Anubis wrote:
Nations will not matter anymore... all people will become united under one global country.


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^Probably the only way that all people will be united into one global community.


/for those unfamiliar with the story, read "Watchmen" by Alan Moore (DO NOT watch the movie, it loses the entire meaning behind the book...but the motion comics are a suitable substitute).


In the face of disaster lies opportunity for renewal.

An iron fist will break all obstacles, and unite the world as one.


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17 Sep 2009, 10:13 am

Anubis wrote:
skafather84 wrote:
Anubis wrote:
Nations will not matter anymore... all people will become united under one global country.


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^Probably the only way that all people will be united into one global community.


/for those unfamiliar with the story, read "Watchmen" by Alan Moore (DO NOT watch the movie, it loses the entire meaning behind the book...but the motion comics are a suitable substitute).


In the face of disaster lies opportunity for renewal.

An iron fist will break all obstacles, and unite the world as one.


Iron fists are excellent for using against people who turn the other cheek. Eventually, of course, iron fists smash everybody and then they just rust and fall into red dust. As on Mars.



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17 Sep 2009, 10:17 am

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Iron fists are excellent for using against people who turn the other cheek. Eventually, of course, iron fists smash everybody and then they just rust and fall into red dust. As on Mars.


Iron fists are best twinned with crafty fingers. They can only achieve as much as their wielders.


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17 Sep 2009, 10:21 am

Anubis wrote:
Sand wrote:
Iron fists are excellent for using against people who turn the other cheek. Eventually, of course, iron fists smash everybody and then they just rust and fall into red dust. As on Mars.


Iron fists are best twinned with crafty fingers. They can only achieve as much as their wielders.


Or as little.



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17 Sep 2009, 10:25 am

Sand wrote:
Anubis wrote:
Sand wrote:
Iron fists are excellent for using against people who turn the other cheek. Eventually, of course, iron fists smash everybody and then they just rust and fall into red dust. As on Mars.


Iron fists are best twinned with crafty fingers. They can only achieve as much as their wielders.


Or as little.


Or as little, true. If you give a weak fool massive power they will only squander it and stab into the dark.


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17 Sep 2009, 10:28 am

Anubis wrote:
Sand wrote:
Anubis wrote:
Sand wrote:
Iron fists are excellent for using against people who turn the other cheek. Eventually, of course, iron fists smash everybody and then they just rust and fall into red dust. As on Mars.


Iron fists are best twinned with crafty fingers. They can only achieve as much as their wielders.


Or as little.


Or as little, true. If you give a weak fool massive power they will only squander it and stab into the dark.


And, as Orwell and ruveyn continually inform us, humanity (including those in control) are pretty good at squandering and stabbing.



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18 Sep 2009, 1:19 pm

protest_the_hero wrote:
Zionism is completely based on racial nationalism. The idea of "God's chosen people" is racism disguised in religion. Without the religious claims behind it, zionism would have no moral justification at all. As far as I'm concerned, zionism has no moral justification at all. I blame the media for all these irrational views imposed on us.


Incorrect. First of all, Zionism is based on ending the persecution of Jews that has occurred throughout history as a result of religious bigotry. That is a moral justification for unifying Jews under one nation.

Secondly, much of Arab anti-Zionism is based on their own Arab/Muslim nationalism. It's racist to say that Jews should not have any degree of self-rule or political power in their cultural homeland, a place where Jews have lived, admittedly as a minority, for millenia.



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18 Sep 2009, 1:22 pm

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They're religiously against the formation of a Jewish state under the name of "Israel" because it is strictly forbidden in their religious texts as a blasphemy against g-d. Only g-d can reform Israel, not man.


That, like any religious text, it open to interpretation. God allegedly works through man, so the success of Zionism is God's will. If God didn't want it to happen, could He have prevented it? I would say so.



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18 Sep 2009, 1:25 pm

ZEGH8578 wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
I was with you until you said you support Ahmedinejad.


whats wrong with supporting ahmadinejad? other than that your not supposed to support him, according to big-happy-western-media...


Because he's a dangerous liar? He says that Israel's existence isn't justified because the Holocaust didn't happen. If it did happen (which it obviously did), then the opposite must be true, Israel's existence is justified!