Are Bush Protestors Morally Equivalent to Obama Protestors

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Ohanrahan, misinformed indeed.

Czars have been appointed since the Reagan administration and they have no executive power. They are simply advisors.

Guns were brought to the town halls (see below) and in certain states it is against the law to have them concealled. Just because something is legal doesn't mean it is a good idea.
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Torture is a very ineffective way to gain accurate information. If I was tortured long enough, I'd probably say anything to make it stop. As a parent, I can understand the desire to torture, but I'm sure there are smarter and more effective ways to gain information. It's not about using any means necessary, but rather finding the most effective means to learn the facts. If you are seeking intelligence, then brains over brawn is the way to go.

The father has a say prior to conception. If he does not wish to have his offspring aborted, then he should avoid sex with a female who does not want a baby. I'm curious about the implantation interception. I've never heard of that one. The morning after pill can prevent conception because sometimes the sperm hangs out for a while before entering the egg. It's not always effective because sometimes conception occurs immediately after intercourse. Either way, are you saying that an embryo is a human being only after implantation occurs (usually about 10 days after conception)? That is certainly an original argument.

What might these "more useful ways" be for repaying "moral debts?" Just curious. I'm not for the death penalty either.

I apologize, but I cannot find an unbiased source for my medicare numbers. There are pages and pages of overhead estimates, but none appear to be from a completely unbiased source. If you are comfortable with a sizeable chunk of your premiums going towards industry profits, then by all means, carry on. The fact that employees get a bigger bonus for rejecting claims and increasing premiums makes me sick. No pun intended.

The government doesn't scare me half as much as a powerful corporation. Small government only brings the illusion of liberty. In reality, it allows the ones at the top to run the show.

Why? It's the same people in charge in either case. The ultra-rich have the connections and the influence to be able to gain positions of power within government, and they are also the ones who would be in charge of corporations.

I agree with what you say but it should be noted that the only way the citizenry in general has influence on the way the nation runs is through government. Corporations and businesses in general treat their employees in a totalitarian fashion dictating speech, dress, hours of work and freedom etc. I am not saying that businesses can or should operate in a more democratic fashion, merely that this is the present situation. If government is sloppy, lazy, uneconomic, etc. it is up to the citizens to change it. If they don't they must expect consequences.

Sort of, but the most significant problem lies within special interests. It's no so much that the ultra-rich gain (buy) powerful positions within the government, but rather that they buy the votes of those already in government. There absolutely needs to be major reform in campaign finance and lobbyists, but good government CAN exist without the unjust influence of the rich. Good corporations, on the other hand, CANNOT exist without the influence of the government. Deregulation has pretty much gotten us into this whole mess to begin with. Just look at the insurance industry, when they are left to their own devices, they drop people like flies and reject claims for needed care - all while jacking up rates at double the rate of inflation. The only mechanism we have to make corporations "care" is to make and enforce laws.

Did anyone notice the "Vaccines = poison" banner in the back when the due first shows off his AR-15? That's pretty much all I need to conclude answer no to whether or not they are morally equivalent. People who protest against Obama are usually ret*d wingnuts, and this is so frustrating because they pollute the actual political discourse with their inane BS about "socialism" about birth certificates... here's the thing: Obama supporters tend to be pretty damn blind, but this pales in comparison to how ret*d the Bush supporters are, and let's be honest here: The people you see walking around with weapons around the president are the usual right-wing idiots. I think it's pretty ironic to see a black Republican, though. So no, they are not morally equivalent. One is ignorant, the other is just willfully stupid, and there's a big difference.

Show me one in human history, and describe how such results could be duplicated.


Actually, money works far better at making corporations care. Corporations are quite good at circumventing the law.