Does anyone else have any politically radical ideas?

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How many of you have politically radical ideas?
One or two politically radical ideas 19%  19%  [ 10 ]
Two or more politically radical ideas 77%  77%  [ 41 ]
I don't have any radical ideas at all 4%  4%  [ 2 ]
Total votes : 53

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04 Apr 2011, 3:07 pm

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I was not trying to imply that stupid people breed stupid children.


No...they raise stupid children.


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04 Apr 2011, 3:09 pm

I dont know if its radical...but I think the government should stay out of our personal lives. Its wrong for them to try to give us a moral code to follow.
Even though I personally don't believe in prostitution or abortion (past first trimester), if I was a leader I would pretty much legalize them and even polygamy. Nobodys moral values are exactly the same.



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04 Apr 2011, 3:32 pm

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No...they raise stupid children.


LOL...

And as far as polygamy.... I've been watching Sister Wives.. and I think they're a great family. I'm not opposed... I just find it difficult to believe that there are that many men who would want to put up with multiple women under the same roof. LOL Kody got lucky.



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04 Apr 2011, 3:37 pm

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skafather84 wrote:
No...they raise stupid children.


LOL...

And as far as polygamy.... I've been watching Sister Wives.. and I think they're a great family. I'm not opposed... I just find it difficult to believe that there are that many men who would want to put up with multiple women under the same roof. LOL Kody got lucky.

What about Polyandry? Would the show be called 'Brother Husbands' ? :P

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I really am not a Nazi...


Don't worry, I wasn't accusing you of being one. Its funny though, often when one mentions that Nazis supported a policy the implication seems to be an accusation of the party in question of being Nazi. I definitely don't think believing what you believe makes you a Nazi, I was just stating that the Nazis did support such a thing, possibly the most famous case of forced reproductive management. Sorry for the miscommunication :)

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I am not ashamed to say that IN THEORY, I don't believe communism is a bad thing.


Communism, in theory, sounds great to a lot of people. Mind you, Hitler was not Communist, but Fascist :D


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04 Apr 2011, 3:46 pm

I'm aware that Hitler was not a communist.. I was stating reasons why I have been called a Nazi in the past...

And polyandry... what's good for the goose is good for the gander?

For me?? Probably not.. I can't seem to find one with which there is mutual tolerance.

I got a lot of "Does not play well with others" comments when I was growing up..

still? hehe



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04 Apr 2011, 3:48 pm

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I'm aware that Hitler was not a communist.. I was stating reasons why I have been called a Nazi in the past...

People have called you a Nazi for thinking Communism is okay in theory? That's silly, I'm sorry you had to deal with such ignorance :(


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04 Apr 2011, 4:50 pm

1. replacing the system of real estate with one of claims (you can only own a property that you are using)
2. abolition of rent. properties in use can be bought and sold outright not rented.
3. Abolition of the Limited Liability corporation (people should not be able to shift liability to a legal fiction)
4. Disbanding the standing army (if youhave a hammer every problem looks like a nail)
5. legalization of all victimless crimes (goverment should not legislate morality)
6. reestablishment of usary laws.
7. auto-matic anti-trust if a publicly traded company reaches 50% market share split it in 3.
mergers in any sector not allowed (this prevents firms from buying their way out of a free market)
8. georgist taxation


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04 Apr 2011, 5:24 pm

Let's see:
1. We need a carbon tax. Or a cap-and-trade system. Just SOMETHING to get our CO2 levels down.
2. I've thought a maximum wage would be a good idea before. And that should include any taxable benefits. We don't want a CEO having his corporation buy him his private jet and mansion--it would defeat the purpose.
3. Working towards socialism in general would be nice, but you'd need to do it nice and slowly. Drastic changes like that never seem to work if you go too fast.
4. Definitely remove any reference of god from the Constitution and national anthem (this is in Canada by the way--but the same applies to any such cases in the USA like on your dollar bill, which should be replaced with a coin anyways).
5. Either make cigarettes illegal or have national healthcare programs refuse to cover lung cancer treatment in smokers.
6. In Canada: make the Senate elected by proportional representation.

I guess that's more than the 1 or 2 radical ideas I voted for.
Edit: 7. Each person should only be aloud to have one child (or maybe two--I'd have to look at population growth rates to say for sure. Plus some people actually find a sibling to be beneficial for some odd reason). Regardless of whether they remarry.



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04 Apr 2011, 5:57 pm

Radical eh?

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I guess my radical beliefs are:

Marriage should be removed from law books. Only legal unions should exist. Religions can still call their stuff 'marriage' but it shouldn't have any legal meaning. And of course, legal unions should be possible between any amounts and kinds of consenting adults. If 6 men and 4 women want to join together I see no problem with that, legally.

Tax penalties for any individual that has more than two children, no matter if the children are not from the same "marriage".

I think I have more but cannot think of them right now.

Edit: Oh yes, all drugs should be legal, similarly, anabolic steroids and any substance that can boost performance should be allowed in sports.


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04 Apr 2011, 6:00 pm

JakobVirgil wrote:
1. replacing the system of real estate with one of claims (you can only own a property that you are using)
2. abolition of rent. properties in use can be bought and sold outright not rented.
3. Abolition of the Limited Liability corporation (people should not be able to shift liability to a legal fiction)
4. Disbanding the standing army (if youhave a hammer every problem looks like a nail)
5. legalization of all victimless crimes (goverment should not legislate morality)
6. reestablishment of usary laws.
7. auto-matic anti-trust if a publicly traded company reaches 50% market share split it in 3.
mergers in any sector not allowed (this prevents firms from buying their way out of a free market)
8. georgist taxation


That all sounds fairly sound except the first one...but the concept of property itself is a very vague notion that's always difficult to lay down into verbal terms. And the second sounds a bit odd as well. I rent an apartment and I don't think I'd ever want to own a home other than the cost part.


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04 Apr 2011, 6:10 pm

skafather84 wrote:
JakobVirgil wrote:
1. replacing the system of real estate with one of claims (you can only own a property that you are using)
2. abolition of rent. properties in use can be bought and sold outright not rented.
3. Abolition of the Limited Liability corporation (people should not be able to shift liability to a legal fiction)
4. Disbanding the standing army (if youhave a hammer every problem looks like a nail)
5. legalization of all victimless crimes (goverment should not legislate morality)
6. reestablishment of usary laws.
7. auto-matic anti-trust if a publicly traded company reaches 50% market share split it in 3.
mergers in any sector not allowed (this prevents firms from buying their way out of a free market)
8. georgist taxation


That all sounds fairly sound except the first one...but the concept of property itself is a very vague notion that's always difficult to lay down into verbal terms. And the second sounds a bit odd as well. I rent an apartment and I don't think I'd ever want to own a home other than the cost part.


1. 2. protect housing market from the boom and boost. If a house is empty and you are houseless you register a claim on it.
rent in the standard sense and in the sense of rent seeking behavior are dodges from being engaged in the flow of goods and services. Rent is in a sense the selling of the same object over and over without having to purchase a new one.
it ruins the flow chart it becames a sink in the system.
baker has to buy wheat. a landlord does not have to buy a new house for you each month.
(this is why you can make so much money as a landlord)


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04 Apr 2011, 6:52 pm

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baker has to buy wheat. a landlord does not have to buy a new house for you each month.
(this is why you can make so much money as a landlord)


A landlord has to pay property tax, pay for maintenance of the property both in terms of everything working within the home plus maintenance outside (the yard and what not). So it isn't like as if a landlord makes a static purchase. Though, there should be some incentives for lowered rent costs.


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04 Apr 2011, 7:23 pm

At one time I thought a lot of the world's problems could be solved if we killed about 2-3 billion people. Not anymore though, don't worry...

I think it is a good idea to form a secret police, put them in urban areas, and send them on raids against drug dealers and other large-scale criminals with shoot-to-kill orders. The problem is we have to ARREST them, while they try to KILL us. I do not think that is fair. Then we can broadcast their deaths or something like that to strike fear in others to not do the same crime. Maybe show severed heads rolling through the street or something like that.

The death penalty does not work because we do not kill enough people. I don't understand why we cannot get a shotgun, put a shell in it, and blow their head off instead of some expensive process. If you can figure out a way, crime will go down if you perform public crucifixions. I would also make all 3 types of murder punishable by death.

If you rape someone, castrate them, If they steal, maim an arm. If you commit a 'future crime' like arson or cruelty to animals, you will be put on a list for potential large-scale criminality later in your life.

Fear and intimidation are useful tools to stop crime. The problem is you need people keeping to the line.


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04 Apr 2011, 7:49 pm

Holy crap... and people call me dictatorish.....

I could be wrong here.. but my understanding was that it's not so much intended to be the ultimate punishment, but merely a solution to a situation that has no other reasonable solution, ie. repeat offenders and dangerous criminals for which rehabilitation and long term incarceration are not beneficial..



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04 Apr 2011, 7:55 pm

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Holy crap... and people call me dictatorish.....

I could be wrong here.. but my understanding was that it's not so much intended to be the ultimate punishment, but merely a solution to a situation that has no other reasonable solution, ie. repeat offenders and dangerous criminals for which rehabilitation and long term incarceration are not beneficial..


Right...it does not work.

Let me explain something: there is a city to the south of me that the politicians left to rot and die. Someone with a strong hand needs to step in, get some men, and rout the place. People cannot do it themselves because of witness intimidation tactics. When you clean out the city, you can start a public works campaign to build jobs, clean it up, and get people to move back.

Civil liberties will never be taken away. Freedom of Speech still applies. Just the crime issue,

As for illegal immigration...a green card has a lot of red tape with it, My first-year German teacher still does not have a green card despite being here for YEARS because of paperwork. Deportation is the mandatory penalty, but only if there is sufficient proof you do not have a green card and are making no effort to get one.

If you are a citizen and contribute to society, there should be no problem. The only thing we need to do is strike the heads of the snakes that cause it.

EDIT: Cyberwarfare is huge too. I would get all the hackers in prison to secretly work for me to take out key infrastructures of the enemy when the time is right.


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04 Apr 2011, 7:57 pm

Replace all congress members with owls, every senator with horses, and make hamburgers out of the bull.