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pettsson
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16 Nov 2015, 4:53 pm

just_ben wrote:
Inspired by a forgettable one liner from Futurama, it did make me wonder; How important is life? Are species really worth protecting? And how are we supposed to decide which one to save/ why they deserve it?

BTW, I tried to find a video clip from 'Into The Wild Green Yonder', but with no luck. Basically, the crew are performing a cursory environmental survey. Life is found, but the Professor, driven by greed. approves the area for demolition. Declaring that "There's no scientific consensus that life is important!"



Thoughts?

BTW, here's a clip I just made of it. :)
https://youtu.be/DdwmBWWgJOw



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18 Nov 2015, 11:36 am

DeaconBlues wrote:
greenblue wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
If you take current physics seriously, if Others have space craft, they go at less than the speed of light.

I am inclined to see light speed as an upper bound (not attainable btw) to the speed of any massive object.

If others have "stargates" (stable wormholes), they travel "faster than light". In any case, the level of evidence of that is as much as of aliens, although it could probably be argued that one is more likely than the other.

Unfortunately, the only way known by our physics to create an Einstein-Rosen bridge, a "wormhole" to use the popular parlance, involves a black hole, which makes taking the trip itself rather difficult - you'd need a nonrotating hole (in order to avoid being torn apart by tidal stresses), with a diameter larger than that of your craft, an unlikely set of circumstances indeed.

On the plus side, there is the theorized Alcubierre warp drive, with the minor problem that the theory so far does not allow for the possibility to see outside the warp bubble, steer, or drop back into normal travel before the bubble's preset collapse (so if it turns out there's a mass in the way, you're dead).

I keep hoping for some sort of loophole in general relativity, myself...


The Roswell incident probably actually happened(80-90% chance imo). And if that's true those aliens must've had a spacecraft that was capable of speeds much faster than light.

They probably crashed cause they got to earth relatively quick in the first place which made them be careless and overconfident while landing. Perhaps a spacecraft capable of warp-drive has to be extremely lightweight. Which makes it susceptible to high-winds during planetary landing as well.