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JakobVirgil
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31 Mar 2011, 6:11 pm

John_Browning wrote:

JakobVirgil wrote:

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HereComesTheRain wrote:

I can see where they get the core of their new membership from. A few of them live in areas where African-Americans, Mexicans and Mexican-Americans are the dominant ethnicity. The African-American community has had a hard time reigning in its problems with gang violence and criminal behavior and it's own racism towards white Americans, who are seen as acceptable targets because of America's history with slavery. Mexican-Americans are breaking our immigration laws, flooding the semi-skilled and low job skilled job rungs with cheap labor and pricing native born Americans out of the job market and our politicians are too afraid of being called "racist" . Violence and illegal immigration are both things that harm communities and should be fought to no end if we want to save our republic. However, scapegoating a community because of a blanket judgment is not the way to deal with those major problems. The best way to deal with those major problems is better law enforcement and maybe even a cultural shift where anti-social personalities that pervade those communities are discouraged.

Somebody in this discussion is finally on the right track. Interaction with minority communities is a far more fertile breeding ground for racism than any white supremacist propaganda campaign.

so is that how you became a racist?

For the vast majority, yes- and pushing multiculturalism in schools often helps breed more genuine white supremacists than if the administrators left matters alone because administrators often create tensions where there previously were none.

for you is this how you became racist?

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31 Mar 2011, 9:26 pm

I have more of a reason to be racist than you do, yet I don't feed into racism. I can't go one day where I live without some stupid white person harassing me on my bike calling me the N word, some hillbilly always giving me a dirty look like I'm going to steal something, or somebody giving my GF a dirty look because we're dating each other. I'm mature enough to separate the hatred of culture from the hatred of the entire race. And trust me, there is a lot to hate about white American culture. You guys are the most wasteful, self centered, anti-intellectual, inconsiderate, sheltered, holier than thou and woe is me people that walk the face of the earth.

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31 Mar 2011, 11:24 pm

HereComesTheRain wrote:

I have more of a reason to be racist than you do, yet I don't feed into racism. I can't go one day where I live without some stupid white person harassing me on my bike calling me the N word, some hillbilly always giving me a dirty look like I'm going to steal something, or somebody giving my GF a dirty look because we're dating each other. I'm mature enough to separate the hatred of culture from the hatred of the entire race. And trust me, there is a lot to hate about white American culture. You guys are the most wasteful, self centered, anti-intellectual, inconsiderate, sheltered, holier than thou and woe is me people that walk the face of the earth.

*insert snark*

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31 Mar 2011, 11:59 pm

JakobVirgil wrote:

John_Browning wrote:

JakobVirgil wrote:

John_Browning wrote:

HereComesTheRain wrote:

Somebody in this discussion is finally on the right track. Interaction with minority communities is a far more fertile breeding ground for racism than any white supremacist propaganda campaign.

so is that how you became a racist?

for you is this how you became racist?

It's the fastest way to end up one. There is usually no media influence, no peer pressure (people developing the same feelings at the same time is different because nobody is under pressure to conform), no exposure to racist propaganda. I'm sure you are wondering about the tea party. The tea party has definitely made itself hard to ignore, but they are not preaching racism. There is a big difference between racism and border security.

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01 Apr 2011, 5:43 am

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*insert snark*

Snark fail. The USA is constantly tops when it comes to wasting food, driving exceedingly large vehicles and leads industrial nations in illiteracy, and 1/3rd of Americans can't find their country on a map and 2/3ds of Americans can't find their own STATE on a map.

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01 Apr 2011, 7:45 am

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1/3rd of Americans can't find their country on a map and 2/3ds of Americans can't find their own STATE on a map.

Do you have a reference for that? I very much doubt that is true. Even if it was true, the questions are worded in such a way as to make it hard to answer. They usually do not ask that question directly.

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This whole racism thing is illogical though, even though the root of it is very understandable. The reason why is because many white Americans probably can trace their roots to multiple places in Europe. My GF is Scottish and German, two ethnicities who would normally never interact with each other on a day to day basis except in the USA. Despite what WNers think, we're a multi-ethnic nation state and the whole concept of "whiteness" is an artificial social construct, not a natural one. In New Mexico, a white person could be somebody descended from Spanish settlers, In Texas, he could be German, in New York, he could be Italian-American, in Chicago, he could be Polish, or in Minnesota, he could be Scandinavian. They have very little in common ethnically other than they're all European.

NS is an Indo-European movement and it really should not matter what country or ethnicity you are from if you fit the bill, although that is not true in a lot of cases I have found.
There are South American NS as well.

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The tea party has definitely made itself hard to ignore, but they are not preaching racism.

There is a WN Tea Party group called the Tea Party Americans Coalition. Then again, some believe Zionists created the Tea Party.

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01 Apr 2011, 7:52 am

HerrGrimm wrote:

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1/3rd of Americans can't find their country on a map and (1) 2/3ds of Americans can't find their own STATE on a map.

HereComesTheRain wrote:

(2) NS is an Indo-European movement and it really should not matter what country or ethnicity you are from if you fit the bill, although that is not true in a lot of cases I have found.
There are South American NS as well.

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The tea party has definitely made itself hard to ignore, but they are not preaching racism.

There is a WN Tea Party group called the Tea Party Americans Coalition. Then again, some believe Zionists created the Tea Party.

(1) I have taught school in america I think this is prolly true
(2) neo-nazis maybe "indo-european" (but I douvt they are in their hearts) but the traditional movement is definately nordicist.
but fascism is just bad science anyway it is not a thinkin mans movement.

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01 Apr 2011, 8:27 am

JakobVirgil wrote:

(2) neo-nazis maybe "indo-european" (but I douvt they are in their hearts) but the traditional movement is definately nordicist.

There are examples in NSBM or Rock Against Communism where a group in Eastern Europe or some place where Nordic mythology does not really make any sense use those themes. It definitely started Nordic and there are still some traces around.

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01 Apr 2011, 11:58 am

HereComesTheRain wrote:

ikorack wrote:

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*insert snark*

We'll we have more than one race in significant numbers I don't see how it is logical to assume one race is responsible for all of the waste and idiocy of a country. I'd also like to see a source for your claims, cause I'm not buying it.

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01 Apr 2011, 10:29 pm

HerrGrimm wrote:

JakobVirgil wrote:

(2) neo-nazis maybe "indo-european" (but I douvt they are in their hearts) but the traditional movement is definately nordicist.

Actually, the common consensus is that the earliest known Indo-European culture, the Battle Axe People, had first appeared in Neolithic eastern Europe. There even today, you will still find many people with Nordic features such as long, narrow skulls, blue eyes, and they have a higher incidence of the R1a genetic signature (most commonly associated with Indo-European populations) than does Germany, the Low Countries, Scandinavia, or the British Isles. So yes, Nordicism has a strong attraction for Eastern European Nazis.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

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01 Apr 2011, 10:32 pm

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Did not know that. I knew about the R1a signature but never put that together. Thank you for the correction.

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01 Apr 2011, 10:36 pm

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01 Apr 2011, 10:37 pm

Was tempted to post this one:

**Warning: Not safe for anyone**

http://www.fuckfrance.com/images/i917/2 ... s_orig.jpg

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01 Apr 2011, 10:40 pm

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Was tempted to post this one:

**Warning: Not safe for anyone**

http://www.f****.com/images/i917/220746 ... s_orig.jpg

It was so funny. I do not know if you know this, but earlier on in this thread a guy named Har0taux posted here. It got deleted, probably because it was a duplicate account. Why do I say that? 1.) There was already a harotaux here, and 2.) the same username got banned at that website. Small world.

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01 Apr 2011, 10:48 pm

HerrGrimm wrote:

skafather84 wrote:

Was tempted to post this one:

**Warning: Not safe for anyone**

http://www.f****.com/images/i917/220746 ... s_orig.jpg

I remember the nazi scum. He's welcome to come back and I'll keep calling him a transvestite jew fag (not that I have a problem with any of the three listed groups but I know he does).

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01 Apr 2011, 10:59 pm

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I remember the nazi scum. He's welcome to come back and I'll keep calling him a transvestite jew fag (not that I have a problem with any of the three listed groups but I know he does).

If what I said was true, they are probably thinking how I knew that. Don't mess with the guy who lives off spycraft. Sometimes the info is bad though, but it wasn't like I declared war on Iraq or anything like that with it.

EDIT: I wrote a report in the 7th grade about how Saddam tried to kill all the religious fundamentalists in Iraq.. My report had more factual information than the CIA's.

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