Everybody Draw Muhammad Day (May 20) Coming Up

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18 May 2011, 3:53 pm

I guess that when people call religions races and they get offended by criticism of religion, it is that they for some reason believe it is their duty to continue their parents' religion rather than think for themselves, so for them, they inherited religion and are locked in it.

What they need is a fix. They need to get offended more.


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18 May 2011, 6:32 pm

a pretty nice video on Draw Muhammad Day II

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5DiJ_Z6 ... re=feedlik


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18 May 2011, 7:10 pm

I drew a picture, but it kind of looks like someone on this forum....

[img][800:540]http://i1202.photobucket.com/albums/bb363/awesomelyglorious1/OrwellisMohammed.png[/img]



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18 May 2011, 7:18 pm

The Apocalypse AND Everybody Draw Muhammad Day both on May 20th? :o


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18 May 2011, 7:19 pm

Seems familiar...is it Jesus?

Given that we stridents are at least x2 as inflammatory as the average atheist, I declare this the start of a two day "Draw Muhammad" drawgasm!! !


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18 May 2011, 8:18 pm

i_wanna_blue wrote:
And by the way it seems you have a great liking for Genghis Khan. That's ok, you obviously see good in him, but myself compared to the Prophet (pbuh), he comes in a distant second. But that doesn't mean now I'm gonna attack your feelings for him, finding fault with everything

You do it because of your feelings of contempt towards Islam and it's people. if drawing the Prophet (pbuh) was regarded as fine, how much will you wager that no one would have drawn him, and would have found some other element to insight Muslims.



You want to write "incite Muslims" And drawing Mohammed (Pus and Blisters Upon Him) is not inherently insulting. After all, artists have portrayed Jesus without insulting or demeaning Jesus. Even Yahweh has been portrayed as a bearded man. No insult there. No more insult that picturing Zeus as a bearded man with lightning bolts in hand.

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19 May 2011, 9:28 am

On 9/11, I didn't see news footage of outraged Muslims condemning the terrorists.
Like millions of my countrymen, I saw footage of Palestinians cheering in the streets.
That footage was pulled from the airwaves before the day was out.
Scenes like that are why it is hard for Americans to believe that most Muslims are opposed to terrorism.



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19 May 2011, 12:25 pm

YippySkippy wrote:
On 9/11, I didn't see news footage of outraged Muslims condemning the terrorists.
Like millions of my countrymen, I saw footage of Palestinians cheering in the streets.
That footage was pulled from the airwaves before the day was out.
Scenes like that are why it is hard for Americans to believe that most Muslims are opposed to terrorism.


Well, some of it was stock footage of cheering palestinians.

Palestine is a special problem. And it's largely our fault.

When the major arab nations got together to officially condemn terrorism years ago, they explictly stopped short of condemning palestinian suicide bombers.

And I'm not sure i can blame them. I think the dominant israeli sentiment is that the palestinians should either die or just go away. And they mostly help them with the first option, at a ratio of 5 palestinians killed by israel for every 1 israeli killed by palestinians.



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19 May 2011, 12:29 pm

YippySkippy wrote:
On 9/11, I didn't see news footage of outraged Muslims condemning the terrorists.
Like millions of my countrymen, I saw footage of Palestinians cheering in the streets.
That footage was pulled from the airwaves before the day was out.
Scenes like that are why it is hard for Americans to believe that most Muslims are opposed to terrorism.


Perhaps the corporate-owned American media isn't the best source to get completely unbiased and representative information, especially after a natural tragedy (the media tends to follow xenophobic fears and the gov't in these cases).


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19 May 2011, 1:18 pm

I agree that Palestine is a unique situation.
I also agree that mainstream media skews the news (or just gets it plain wrong).
However, what most Americans saw was simply a bunch of Muslims cheering an attack on American civilians.
Most people wouldn't have cared or even noticed which country was being shown.
And in any case, cheering in the street when a civilian plane is crashed into a civilian building is barbaric. Being Palestinian helps explain the reaction, but certainly doesn't make it okay.

Anyway, my point was that Islamic leaders could counter images like that by holding demonstrations and making public statements condemning terrorism. For some reason, they almost never do so. Is it because moderate Muslims secretly support terror attacks? I think many Americans feel this is the case.



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19 May 2011, 3:07 pm

YippySkippy wrote:
I agree that Palestine is a unique situation.
I also agree that mainstream media skews the news (or just gets it plain wrong).
However, what most Americans saw was simply a bunch of Muslims cheering an attack on American civilians.
Most people wouldn't have cared or even noticed which country was being shown.
And in any case, cheering in the street when a civilian plane is crashed into a civilian building is barbaric.


Cheering in the street when special forces storm a murderer's compound and shoot him in the head is a little barbaric too.



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19 May 2011, 3:22 pm

blauSamstag wrote:
That sounds exactly like what Jesus Christ would do.


Okay, WTF does Jesus Christ have to do with drawing Muhammad? The bulk of my post is on what I preceive to be the segmentation of the Islamic population. Regardless, Jesus Christ has very minimal relevance to the actual OP, as the group drawing Muhammad is ATHEIST.


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19 May 2011, 3:25 pm

blauSamstag wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
In Islam you are forbidden to portray Muhammed. Its taking the Mosaic commandent of "thou shalt have no graven images" an inch farther. Supposidly if the prophet is given a portrait that would tempt to the faitful to succumb to idolatry.
Traditional paintings of Islamic history show mohammed as a hooded figure with no face as he leads multitudes of men with faces into battle or whatever.
Anthony Quinn played mohammed in a biopic film and with his face in shadow the whole way through. So drawing a picture, no matter how flattering, of Mohammed is a blasphemy.

So portraying Mohammed is not comparable to drawing blacks with big lips or whatever- its more comparable to the Mapplethorpe crusifix photograph. Its not about stereotyping. Its about blasphemy. Not that one is better or worse than the other, but thats the issue.


This is not entirely true. The currently accepted version of islam generally holds that this is the case, but in the past it wasn't always the case. Early muslims could and did paint depictions of Muhammed.

But that doesn't make it any less offensive to go out of your way to annoy the ones who are alive today just because they believe in a different version of a diety than you do.


Strictly speaking, no, the whole point of Everybody Draw Muhammad day isn't just to "annoy people who believe in a different deity" (though, many of the people drawing Muhammad don't believe in ANY Deity). It's to deflate the sacredness of out-dated customs and to stand for Free Speech. Given that Ultraconservative Muslims have tried intimidating people who have drawn the Prophet, having so many people draw him as to make targetting threats impossible is a sure antidote to such intimidation.


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19 May 2011, 3:57 pm

Master_Pedant wrote:
Strictly speaking, no, the whole point of Everybody Draw Muhammad day isn't just to "annoy people who believe in a different deity" (though, many of the people drawing Muhammad don't believe in ANY Deity). It's to deflate the sacredness of out-dated customs and to stand for Free Speech. Given that Ultraconservative Muslims have tried intimidating people who have drawn the Prophet, having so many people draw him as to make targetting threats impossible is a sure antidote to such intimidation.


BS. The whole point of "draw muhammad day" is to do something that is offensive to someone who isn't like you, strictly because you're a prick and like to do that kind of thing.



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19 May 2011, 4:13 pm

blauSamstag wrote:
Master_Pedant wrote:
Strictly speaking, no, the whole point of Everybody Draw Muhammad day isn't just to "annoy people who believe in a different deity" (though, many of the people drawing Muhammad don't believe in ANY Deity). It's to deflate the sacredness of out-dated customs and to stand for Free Speech. Given that Ultraconservative Muslims have tried intimidating people who have drawn the Prophet, having so many people draw him as to make targetting threats impossible is a sure antidote to such intimidation.


BS. The whole point of "draw muhammad day" is to do something that is offensive to someone who isn't like you, strictly because you're a prick and like to do that kind of thing.


I personally love how so many either Muslims or "Respect Islam" people are filfthy hypocrites, who spew out how much "tolerance" is neccessary before screaming and judging people who criticize their religion. While I don't share the views of xenophobes like Iamnotaparakeet, who thinks Muslim immigration will destroy society, I do object to the disgusting, prickly thin-skinned responses Muslims have to Non-Muslims drawing Muhammad. Toughen up, buttercup.

Furthermore, quit crying and stop making asides about Israel. I've stated numerous times that I think Israel practices state terrorism and I've probably criticized Muslims in less than 0.001% of the posts I've ever written. I've, furthermore, stood by quite a few criticism of atheism, leftism, egalitarianism, stability of single-parent households, my sexuality, my sanity and even my own intelligence without taking as much personal offence as you do when I speak of Everybody Draw Muhammad Day or post a picture that you assume is Muhammad.

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19 May 2011, 4:28 pm

I'd also like to thank the various opponents of Everybody Draw Muhammad Day. I was on the fence over whether participating in it would have been a good idea before reading your responses. The lack of any intellectual security when it comes to religious matter or plain maturity observed in the apologists here has convinced me that the whiners deserve to have it etched into their brains that intimidation won't work.


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