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16 May 2011, 4:40 pm

Inuyasha wrote:
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dionysian wrote:
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Last I checked Chicago is run by Democrats.

Totally different state, dude.


Pointing out the attempt to trample the 2nd Amendment.

Ah, OK. I thought that was a different thread.


lets agree to limit this discussion to 4th amendment abuse.
Are liberal judges more or less likely to limit police powers?
are cops in Texas or Mississippi given more or less powers than New York or Massachusetts?
what is behind the steady encroachment of police powers?
hippies or squares?


Just because a Judge is appointed by a Conservative, does not mean the Judge is actually a conservative. Same thing for a liberal appointing a Judge. You just have their past track records to go off of.


Why do you assume they are liberal?


Simple, this flies in the face of everything a Conservative stands for. While one can argue the Judges may be RINOs, point remains they are definately not Conservatives.


by that thinking conservatives simply cease being conservative the moment they do wrong?
are you 7?


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16 May 2011, 4:44 pm

JakobVirgil wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
JakobVirgil wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
JakobVirgil wrote:
dionysian wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
dionysian wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
Last I checked Chicago is run by Democrats.

Totally different state, dude.


Pointing out the attempt to trample the 2nd Amendment.

Ah, OK. I thought that was a different thread.


lets agree to limit this discussion to 4th amendment abuse.
Are liberal judges more or less likely to limit police powers?
are cops in Texas or Mississippi given more or less powers than New York or Massachusetts?
what is behind the steady encroachment of police powers?
hippies or squares?


Just because a Judge is appointed by a Conservative, does not mean the Judge is actually a conservative. Same thing for a liberal appointing a Judge. You just have their past track records to go off of.


Why do you assume they are liberal?


Simple, this flies in the face of everything a Conservative stands for. While one can argue the Judges may be RINOs, point remains they are definately not Conservatives.


by that thinking conservatives simply cease being conservative the moment they do wrong?
are you 7?


Nope, I'm saying that it flies in the face of Conservative values which leads me to question if they were Conservatives in the first place.



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16 May 2011, 4:47 pm

Inuyasha wrote:
JakobVirgil wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
JakobVirgil wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
JakobVirgil wrote:
dionysian wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
dionysian wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
Last I checked Chicago is run by Democrats.

Totally different state, dude.


Pointing out the attempt to trample the 2nd Amendment.

Ah, OK. I thought that was a different thread.


lets agree to limit this discussion to 4th amendment abuse.
Are liberal judges more or less likely to limit police powers?
are cops in Texas or Mississippi given more or less powers than New York or Massachusetts?
what is behind the steady encroachment of police powers?
hippies or squares?


Just because a Judge is appointed by a Conservative, does not mean the Judge is actually a conservative. Same thing for a liberal appointing a Judge. You just have their past track records to go off of.


Why do you assume they are liberal?


Simple, this flies in the face of everything a Conservative stands for. While one can argue the Judges may be RINOs, point remains they are definately not Conservatives.


by that thinking conservatives simply cease being conservative the moment they do wrong?
are you 7?


Nope, I'm saying that it flies in the face of Conservative values which leads me to question if they were Conservatives in the first place.


or maybe rhetoric does not match action?


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16 May 2011, 4:50 pm

Maybe someone is committing the No True Scotsman fallacy.


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16 May 2011, 4:57 pm

JakobVirgil wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
JakobVirgil wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
JakobVirgil wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
JakobVirgil wrote:
dionysian wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
dionysian wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
Last I checked Chicago is run by Democrats.

Totally different state, dude.


Pointing out the attempt to trample the 2nd Amendment.

Ah, OK. I thought that was a different thread.


lets agree to limit this discussion to 4th amendment abuse.
Are liberal judges more or less likely to limit police powers?
are cops in Texas or Mississippi given more or less powers than New York or Massachusetts?
what is behind the steady encroachment of police powers?
hippies or squares?


Just because a Judge is appointed by a Conservative, does not mean the Judge is actually a conservative. Same thing for a liberal appointing a Judge. You just have their past track records to go off of.


Why do you assume they are liberal?


Simple, this flies in the face of everything a Conservative stands for. While one can argue the Judges may be RINOs, point remains they are definately not Conservatives.


by that thinking conservatives simply cease being conservative the moment they do wrong?
are you 7?


Nope, I'm saying that it flies in the face of Conservative values which leads me to question if they were Conservatives in the first place.


or maybe rhetoric does not match action?


Or maybe, the Judges weren't what they were advertised to be. Judicial Activism or the Constitution is a "living document that changes with the times" is more of a left wing viewpoint.



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16 May 2011, 6:37 pm

Inuyasha wrote:
JakobVirgil wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
JakobVirgil wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
JakobVirgil wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
JakobVirgil wrote:
dionysian wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
dionysian wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
Last I checked Chicago is run by Democrats.

Totally different state, dude.


Pointing out the attempt to trample the 2nd Amendment.

Ah, OK. I thought that was a different thread.


lets agree to limit this discussion to 4th amendment abuse.
Are liberal judges more or less likely to limit police powers?
are cops in Texas or Mississippi given more or less powers than New York or Massachusetts?
what is behind the steady encroachment of police powers?
hippies or squares?


Just because a Judge is appointed by a Conservative, does not mean the Judge is actually a conservative. Same thing for a liberal appointing a Judge. You just have their past track records to go off of.


Why do you assume they are liberal?


Simple, this flies in the face of everything a Conservative stands for. While one can argue the Judges may be RINOs, point remains they are definately not Conservatives.


by that thinking conservatives simply cease being conservative the moment they do wrong?
are you 7?


Nope, I'm saying that it flies in the face of Conservative values which leads me to question if they were Conservatives in the first place.


or maybe rhetoric does not match action?


Or maybe, the Judges weren't what they were advertised to be. Judicial Activism or the Constitution is a "living document that changes with the times" is more of a left wing viewpoint.

three out of five, are a majority of conservative appointed judges secret liberals?
can you trust Roberts and Alito? what about Thomas?


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16 May 2011, 7:45 pm

When a judge reveals himself not to be a Conservative (whether through protracted deception prior to taking his place on the bench, or through later conversion), is it time to shoot him in the head?



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20 May 2011, 9:57 am

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Second, my problem with Soros has to do with the unusual correlation between him and countries having their financial systems collapsing. There is also information out there to suggest causation.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Soros

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Eastern Europe
According to Neil Clark in the New Statesman, Soros's role was crucial in the collapse of communism in Eastern Europe. From 1979, as an advocate of 'open societies', Soros financially supported dissidents including Poland's Solidarity movement, Charter 77 in Czechoslovakia and Andrei Sakharov in the Soviet Union donating $3 million a year according to Clark. In 1984, he founded his first Open Society Institute in Hungary and pumped millions of dollars into opposition movements and independent media. Since the fall of the Soviet Union, Soros' funding has continued to play an important role in the former Soviet sphere. His funding of pro-democratic programs in of Georgia was considered by Russian and Western observers to be crucial to the success of the Rose Revolution, although Soros has said that his role has been "greatly exaggerated."[56] Alexander Lomaia, Secretary of the Georgian Security Council and former Minister of Education and Science, is a former Executive Director of the Open Society Georgia Foundation (Soros Foundation), overseeing a staff of 50 and a budget of $2,500,000.

Former Georgian Foreign Minister Salomé Zourabichvili wrote that institutions like the Soros Foundation were the cradle of democratisation and that all the NGOs which gravitated around the Soros Foundation undeniably carried the revolution. She opines that after the revolution the Soros Foundation and the NGOs were integrated into power.

Some Soros-backed pro-democracy initiatives have been banned in Kazakhstan and Turkmenistan. Ercis Kurtulus, head of the Social Transparency Movement Association (TSHD) in Turkey, said in an interview that "Soros carried out his will in Ukraine and Georgia by using these NGOs...Last year Russia passed a special law prohibiting NGOs from taking money from foreigners. I think this should be banned in Turkey as well." In 1997, Soros had to close his foundation in Belarus after it was fined $3 million by the government for "tax and currency violations". According to The New York Times, the Belarussian president Alexander Lukashenko has been widely criticized in the West and in Russia for his efforts to control the Belarus Soros Foundation and other independent NGOs and to suppress civil and human rights. Soros called the fines part of a campaign to "destroy independent society".

In June 2009, Soros donated $100m to Central Europe and Eastern Europe to counter the impact of the economic crisis on the poor, voluntary groups and non-government organisations.

Africa
The Open Society Initiative for Southern Africa is a Soros-affiliated organization. Its director for Zimbabwe is Godfrey Kanyenze, who also directs the Zimbabwe Congress of Trade Unions (ZCTU), which was the main force behind the founding of the Movement for Democratic Change, the principal indigenous organization promoting regime change in Zimbabwe.


So you object to Communism's collapse?


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It seems as though he has turned his attention on the US, so yeah someone with his track record is a cause of concern I don't care what his political affiliation is.


Bull-poop.



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20 May 2011, 6:04 pm

Inuyasha, you initially held this decision up as proof that liberals hate freedom and are trying to destroy the Constitution. When it was pointed out that the decision was made by conservative appointees, you declared the judges were actually closet liberals, and cited this decision as proof that they must be liberals. So... you know the judges were liberal because they made this decision, and liberals are bad because they made this decision. You are just establishing a tautology that liberal=bad, with no regard for what the groups and individuals that actually identify as either liberal or conservative believe, advocate, or do.

So, I have a question for you:
Are you actually stupid enough that you don't realize what an egregious error in reasoning you have made here, or are you merely too stubborn to admit when you have been proven wrong?


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20 May 2011, 9:16 pm

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Inuyasha, you initially held this decision up as proof that liberals hate freedom and are trying to destroy the Constitution. When it was pointed out that the decision was made by conservative appointees, you declared the judges were actually closet liberals, and cited this decision as proof that they must be liberals. So... you know the judges were liberal because they made this decision, and liberals are bad because they made this decision. You are just establishing a tautology that liberal=bad, with no regard for what the groups and individuals that actually identify as either liberal or conservative believe, advocate, or do.

So, I have a question for you:
Are you actually stupid enough that you don't realize what an egregious error in reasoning you have made here, or are you merely too stubborn to admit when you have been proven wrong?

I think he is a paid shill. They do that sort of thing... Hire people to troll message boards and perpetuate the rhetoric. I think it's fairly obvious.



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20 May 2011, 9:41 pm

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I think he is a paid shill. They do that sort of thing... Hire people to troll message boards and perpetuate the rhetoric. I think it's fairly obvious.


I hope that no-one is paying him too much.



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20 May 2011, 11:20 pm

pandabear wrote:
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I think he is a paid shill. They do that sort of thing... Hire people to troll message boards and perpetuate the rhetoric. I think it's fairly obvious.


I hope that no-one is paying him too much.

:lol:

But hey, I wouldn't mind seeing them waste their money! ;)



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08 Jul 2011, 8:53 am

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08 Jul 2011, 9:23 am

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Rupert Murdock to only 29, which is bellow the evil threshold.


http://www.nndb.com/people/420/000023351/

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During the 2002 and 2003 build-up to the invasion of Iraq, all of Murdoch's 175 newspapers editorialized for war.


Rupert Murdoch is far beyond the limits of evil. He is the incarnation of evil.



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15 Jul 2011, 4:26 pm

Take a look at this article, published by Fox News itself

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/07/14 ... k-inquiry/

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Murdoch began his media career in Australia in 1952 after inheriting The News newspaper after the death of his father, and has built News Corp. into one of the world's biggest media groups, with market capitalization of $46 billion. Assets include Fox News, the 20th Century Fox movie studio, The Wall Street Journal, The New York Post and three newspapers in Britain -- down from four with the death of the News of the World.

Murdoch controls 40 percent of News Corp.'s voting stock, mostly through a family trust.

For decades, British lawmakers lived in fear of the influence of Murdoch's media empire. With the revelation of widespread criminal hacking, and the public revulsion that followed, Parliament has been liberated, flexing its muscles in a display of freedom some are calling the "British Spring."

Business Secretary Vince Cable said Thursday the fast-moving events were "a bit like the end of a dictatorship."


So, why all this crap about George Soros?



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15 Jul 2011, 4:33 pm

pandabear wrote:
Rupert Murdoch is far beyond the limits of evil. He is the incarnation of evil.


He expresses opinions. That is evil?

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