Hey KXMode

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Bible. Reading. As in you read the bible... in front of a crowd. No introduction. No conclusion. Just straight reading... the bible. You obviously haven't been to a Kingdom Hall in more than a decade.

You've already made it abundantly clear you're an ex-Witness, and your views are absolutely apostate. I want nothing to do with you or this thread.

I'm going to be frank with you. I take pity on the world because they don't understand why the world is acting the way it is. It's one of the reasons why I engage in the ministry. It's a mission of mercy to help people learn about the wonderful hope for the future God has in store for humans. But you... you KNOW what's coming. You learned about that hopeful future. You were given this free gift of knowledge, and instead of sharing your knowledge with fellow humans in need of knowing it you have squandered that knowledge! Worse yet you turn to attacking those who are trying to help people learn what you know. You are a selfish person. You have no one to blame except yourself for what happens to you when the great tribulation starts. And I'm through with you... and this thread.

Last edited by kxmode on 20 Jul 2011, 1:25 am, edited 1 time in total.

I'm done with all of you. I'm not wasting anymore of my time on this forum. If your collective aim was to get me off PPR... congratulations: you've succeeded.

For future reference, when your wondering, this is why people give up on religion.

VERY important to note. I take it to mean a reference to oral tradition as well as the written tradition. "It is said..." in the Talmud, but "it is written" in Torah. I have my doubts as to whether the Talmud is really relevant for Christians, but it seems to be an invaluable asset in bridging Christian understanding of scripture with how the Jews (to whom the scripture was given) viewed it.

Wow, so they don't even let you write your own intros and conclusions anymore? Individuality be damned.




http://www.rickross.com/warningsigns.html

Sign #5 on the top paragraph defines your statement to a tee.





You pity us "worldly people" (A people, by the way, under your definition, includes everybody from the Dawn Bible Students to stark atheists to villagers in mud huts) because we do not understand what's going on. Kid, your first mistake in your statement was stereotyping all non JWs as the same. (Sign of a dangerous group#4). Your second mistake is assuming that all of us non JW people don't know what's going on.

Kid, most non JWs, at least in this country, have the internet. A large portion of us at least took some college courses. Being one of those people who has the internet and also took college courses, I will tell you why I'm personally not afraid of any tribulation and how I know what's going on.

It's true, we're going through a crisis. The reason for this latest crisis in our world is sociological and economical, not spiritual. We're spending more than we can make in this country. Expect that to change once the economy gets bad enough, changes will be made to economic policy and we'll rebound. It happened during the Great Depression, it happened during The Panic of 1893, it happened during The Panic of 1907. There is going to be no "tribulation". Your church probably knows deep down inside that there's going to be no "tribulation". Why? They predicted the tribulation many times before and the predictions failed.





Many of us have asked you to either quit spamming or bring some actual facts and data to support your beliefs and to justify why you're spamming the board with your religion's literature. How's that merciful when you have done neither, and instead, just spammed the board?



I was beaten to a bloody pulp by my family because I stopped attending the meetings. The beatings got so bad that I had to take up martial arts and carry pepper spray around my house. That's all the knowledge I need to know about your church.



I did try to share that knowledge and I repeatedly got owned by a group of seminary students. Repeatedly. Not the same seminary students either. That was because I was trained to market and peddle the literature, not to actually think. JWs, by the nature of their training, are NOT that knowledgeable about the bible. The Theocratic Ministry School does not train anybody in ancient Greek or ancient Hebrew, nor do they teach them early Church Father history. They teach them "people skills" and ways to "sell yourself" at a homeowner's door.




No, even better. I know your entire playbook and I'm here to warn people about your religion's ins and outs, and deep down inside, it scares your higher ups to no end, and you're automatically programmed by your higher ups to be afraid of anything I say. After all, I'm a threat to their coffers.



Woaah pally boy, now who's doing the slandering and personal attacks? I've never once personally attacked you. Despite my strong feelings against your faith, I have never ONCE mocked you nor insulted you. I respect you enough as a person NOT to insult you based on your faith, yet when I poke holes in your entire worldview, you call me "selfish" and you wish me annihilation by God. But then I expected this from a JW. Like I said, I know your religion's entire playbook.



Seeing how your church has repeatedly had failed predictions of the "great tribulation", I won't be holding my breath.



But I thought you had "The Truth"?

A la Mode topic

Nice to be back, but this thread may be dead now that the KX man has left the building.

Religion is such a fascinating pastime, and good to hear at least four sides of it from more than six posters. I cannot add anything, that already was there. As for the bullying, compared with the other site I have been frequenting, I can see a lot of it here. But we are an outspoken bunch, and words can be a temptingly lethal sword that i have brandished now and then. But in my older age i have mellowed somewaht but will make sure that sword is there if needed,

Some things never change. I do like the consistency.

Bullying? Hey, KXMode and klacky are the ones who are telling us if we don't change our ways and join their church, we're going to be annihilated by God. I'm just making their threats seem less credible by poking holes in their church doctrine.

Exactly.

Wahh wahh wahh, I'm attacking KXMode. Dude,this guy in his previous posts admitted that he believes that his God is going to kill each and every one of you non-believers. He's also stated in previous threads that one of his missions here is to "preach the good news" (AKA posting unsolicited material from the JW church on this board) even though the rest of the board asked him to stop spamming unsolicited material from the JWs many times.

I'm not "bullying" this guy. Bullying a person indicates you're picking on somebody who is innocent. KXMode isn't innocent, by his own admissions. Again, he's admitted above that we're damned by his god to total annihilation if we don't listen to his religious sermons. He's also shown a callous attitude towards abuse victims within his church when those same victims were vocal about how their abuse cases were mishandled by the church Bishops and Deacons (Elders and Ministerial servants to you JW folk). He outright accused the victims of lying even though there is much documented evidence to state otherwise. I also believe in our previous discussions he denied that the JWs allowed registered sex offenders to go to people's doors, accusing me of "lying" even though I provided documentation.

If anything, I'm exposing this hate filled fundamentalist for what he is: a guy that puts up a nice guy act but in reality, thinks he's better than you, me and everybody else on this board, based on his religion. In short, he's a manipulative creep who hides behind the veil of religious persecution whenever somebody dares questions his worldview.

And that's why I'm heavy-handed with this jerk. He's no different than most other people in his faith that I know. They all want free speech for themselves and none for any of their critics. KXMode is no different, based on his posting history.

Beef in the bully topic

I agree with you, HCTR. I despise religion and what it has done over the centuries. the only good I can see is that when people belonged to a church, it makes it easier to find ancestors. Genealogy is one of my special interests.

I know Visagrunt and he does try to be fair, even to those he disagrees with. He has a special concern for bullying, due to his personal experience with it. I despise any kind of bullying, and though i do not personally see it here, many AS are rather sensitive to any kind of criticism when it can and has evolved into the nastiness of all pile on the rabbit.

I myself find it difficult to criticize religion rationally as Visagrunt does, and have as a rule ignored the ones here like KX lest I become overbearing. I did not notice this in your case but some might. Actually, this thread seemed more civil than some I have seen over the almost four years I have been visiting the Planet.

There are many strong personalities here at WP and you will get used to them as you encounter them more on a regular basis.

I fundamentally disagree with your assertion that bullying implies innocence on the part of the victim. I am gobsmacked that people will try and assert that his previous behaviour justifies their present behaviour towards him. I thought we all outgrew, "He started it!" and, "He did way worse stuff than me!" when we left the schoolyard.

My complaint is not about poking holes in kxmode's beliefs, but about how others have treated him while doing that. So he believes I am damned--big deal. Better people than he have thought worse of me.

At the end of the day, I am not going to descend to that level. I have no patience for the substance of many of kxmode's beliefs, but I will not countenance anyone ridiculing him for holding them. If we are to give meaning to fundamental values like freedom of expression and freedom of thought, belief and opinion, then we have practice those principles. That does not mean allowing repugnant opinions to go unchallenged, but it does mean challenging them in a mature, respectful fashion.

If you cannot challenge his beliefs without resorting to name-calling and heavy-handedness, then you are no better than he.

Yes sir. I don't buy the BS that you HAVE to be condescending when you are challenging something. That's just a pathetic excuse for douchebaggery.

Hear, hear.

As you can see I have already pointed to the use of forgiveness as a psychological tool. It appears to me (subjectively) that many religious folk forgive because they have been instructed to and they make a big song and dance regarding their charitable disposition to those who have offended them.

I cannot change what seems to you. You have been through your database not mine.

I would just direct your attention to the fact that some people in touch with God [NOT synonymous with "religious folk" do forgive because God has made in clear that they need to.

I will also poinmt out that when my counsellor told me I needed to forgive I found it absolutely impossible to do so.

And finally - not every one who forgives "makes a big song and dance ". To this day my father has no idea I ever resented him.

Not once did I make fun of him for holding his beliefs. His beliefs are his to hold if he chooses and if it works out for him, good. If it fails him, I hope he finds himself something else that fills his spiritual needs. Really and truly, I don't care what he believes in, as long as he doesn't try to shove it down the throats of me or anybody else who do not want to listen to his solicitations. If I made a thread that said "KXMode is a naive easily misled dolt who needs to expunge himself from the gene pool" based on my feelings about his religion and he never really made anything but a passing reference to his faith, then yeah, that would be kind of jerk-@$$. But he's been shoving down his religion down our throats and claiming it's "the truth" , and when he's asked to prove it's "the truth" despite the obvious contradictions in his religious outlook, he then starts playing the victim card. That's not jerk-@$$ness, it's plain, garden variety assertion.




Your statement contradicts itself. According to that statement, h has the right to state his opinion but I don't have the right to criticize it. That's not freedom of speech, that's political correctness.



Point out the personal attacks in my posts in this thread... come on, you can do it... Bueller.. Bueller...



Point out where I called him a name.. anywhere. Bueller... Bueller?