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19 Jul 2011, 11:28 am

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Post the entire video segment of what O'Reilly actually said, I'm getting more than a little fed up with out-of-context snippets used in a smear campaign.

His vicious, hateful ranting says more than enough to expose his full context, and you know it. What's amazing is how you manage to miss the series of deliberate distortions at the end - this is a classic O'Reilly/Fox MO.
There are plenty more examples available, even without resorting to YouTube - I've watched Fox "News" myself and seen many similar O'Reilly performances, exactly as broadcast and using the same methods as that YouTube clip. It doesn't take very long (or rocket science) to see both O'Reilly and Fox for what they are.

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19 Jul 2011, 11:42 am

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Again, we were attacked on 9/11, so essentially you are quite frankly full of it.

Moron! - who attacked us on 9/11 and who did we invade?
Were they the same people you freaking Idiot?

Your Answer: everybody thought . . . lies well . . . smears . . . no respect . . . your a drunk ...

We first invaded Afghanistan, where Osama Bin Laden's Al Qaeda was.

We then went after Saddam on the suspicion of him trying to acquire nuclear weapons (which he was).

Here's a story you may have missed over the long holiday weekend: 550 metric tons of yellowcake uranium worth tens of millions of dollars were shipped out of Iraq to Canada. The material was transported in 37 military flights in 3,500 secure barrels, according to the Associated Press.
http://www.nysun.com/editorials/iraqs-yellowcake/81328/

The last major remnant of Saddam Hussein's nuclear program — a huge stockpile of concentrated natural uranium — reached a Canadian port Saturday to complete a secret U.S. operation that included a two-week airlift from Baghdad and a ship voyage crossing two oceans.

The removal of 550 metric tons of "yellowcake" — the seed material for higher-grade nuclear enrichment — was a significant step toward closing the books on Saddam's nuclear legacy. It also brought relief to U.S. and Iraqi authorities who had worried the cache would reach insurgents or smugglers crossing to Iran to aid its nuclear ambitions.

What's now left is the final and complicated push to clean up the remaining radioactive debris at the former Tuwaitha nuclear complex about 12 miles south of Baghdad — using teams that include Iraqi experts recently trained in the Chernobyl fallout zone in Ukraine.

"Everyone is very happy to have this safely out of Iraq," said a senior U.S. official who outlined the nearly three-month operation to The Associated Press. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the subject.

While yellowcake alone is not considered potent enough for a so-called "dirty bomb" — a conventional explosive that disperses radioactive material — it could stir widespread panic if incorporated in a blast. Yellowcake also can be enriched for use in reactors and, at higher levels, nuclear weapons using sophisticated equipment.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25546334/ns ... nium-iraq/

Along with 1.77 tons of enriched uranium, about 1000 "highly radioactive sources" were also removed.
http://news.scotsman.com/world/US-smugg ... 2543676.jp

This blog has some interesting comments:
http://thesop.org/story/international/2 ... w-cake.php

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19 Jul 2011, 11:52 am

Are you really that stupid?
the yellowcake in this story has nothing to do with Saddam.
and only severe cognitive dissonance would make you think that was the reason for the war.
If you would read anything not filter by the criminal kingpin Rupert Murdoch you would know that.
anything by anyone.
your entire world view is dictated by the agenda of one guy.

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19 Jul 2011, 11:58 am

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Actually it did, otherwise why did Bush bother to go to the United Nations. -- I'm being rhetorical.

Furthermore, I wasn't aware your favorite news source of MSNBC is ran by Rupert Murdoch. :lol:

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19 Jul 2011, 12:12 pm

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Actually it did, otherwise why did Bush bother to go to the United Nations. -- I'm being rhetorical.

Furthermore, I wasn't aware your favorite news source of MSNBC is ran by Rupert Murdoch. :lol:

"Actually it did" !?!? compelling response
Sweety you did not read any of those articles you copy and pasted your entire reply.
You know that Bush Ignored the U.N. right? and went against their opinion.

and speaking to your stupid I don't watch MSNBC it is partisanship democrat trash T.V.
You have know idea who you are talking to. I on the other hand can predict every thing you do.
Because you are a clown a cliche and follower.

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19 Jul 2011, 12:18 pm

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We then went after Saddam on the suspicion of him trying to acquire nuclear weapons (which he was).

Pfft.

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The yellowcake removed from Iraq in 2008 was material that had long since been identified, documented, and stored in sealed containers under the supervision of U.N. inspectors. It was not a "secret" cache that was recently "discovered" by the U.S, and the yellowcake had not been purchased by Iraq in the years immediately preceding the 2003 invasion. The uranium was the remnants of decades-old nuclear reactor projects that had put out of commission many years earlier: One reactor at Al Tuwaitha was bombed by Israel in 1981, and another was bombed and disabled during Operation Desert Storm in 1991.

From: http://www.snopes.com/politics/war/yellowcake.asp
Also see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niger_uranium_forgeries

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19 Jul 2011, 12:28 pm

The yellowcake allegation made by the Bush administration was that Saddam was trying to acquire yellowcake uranium from Niger.

This was an absurd allegation for two major reasons.

1: The uranium mines in Niger are controlled by a French company, so, if he had actually asked the government of Niger for some yellowcake, they would have referred him to the mine owners.

2: Iraq has it's own uranium mines.

The "intelligence" that this allegation was based on was a forgery created by an italian intelligence agent who was in a financial bind and knew he could sell it.

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19 Jul 2011, 12:39 pm

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The "intelligence" community knew it was a fake when Colin Powell perjured himself in front of the UN
Using this piece of "data" as a reason to invade ending his political career.
Sad because he was a better man than those he was lying for.

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19 Jul 2011, 1:10 pm

I suppose it could. Hard to say where this scandal will end. In the broader picture it also makes me wonder how wide spread the practice might be in journalism. Hopfully not far, but it does make me wonder what comes out in the end.

Was reading today that Fox News contributor Michelle Malkin is upset over what has happened, and rightfully so. Thought this a nice line about who decides the companies fate.

http://michellemalkin.com/2011/07/19/ha ... on-period/

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News consumers in the U.K. and beyond will decide in the court of public opinion what price the rest of Rupert Murdoch’s news empire should pay — as well as other non-Murdoch U.K. tabloids with hacking clouds swirling overhead.
Media conglomerates have weathered a litany of plagiarism, fabrication, and circulation fraud over the history of modern journalism. I pray News Corp. can survive this one. Contrary to the company’s salivating detractors, government-imposed journalism ethics won’t prevent or solve the lapses. Competition in the media marketplace is the best check and balance we have.

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19 Jul 2011, 2:41 pm

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At least Powell used the remainder of his political clout going to bat for Obama, during the last election. I like to think that reformed at least a bit of his historic reputation.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

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19 Jul 2011, 5:03 pm

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I wouldn't miss the O'Racist factor for a minute.

What is it with liberals and calling everyone they disagree with a racist? Seriously, the term no longer means what it should mean, instead it has become nothing more than a slur used by the left to try to intimidate their critics. I feel bad for people whom are victims of racism, because people won't take their accusation seriously thanks to people on the left.

Fox News has racists.

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20 Jul 2011, 12:16 am

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So far the entire scandal involves only the News Corp UK division, not a single individual from the US part of News Corp has been implicated, despite what the partisan DoJ ran under the most corrupt Attorney General in my lifetime attempting to come up with any excuse to shut down Fox News.

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20 Jul 2011, 12:25 am

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More corrupt than Alberto Gonzales? Aye carumba!

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20 Jul 2011, 6:27 am

Inuyasha wrote:

So far the entire scandal involves only the News Corp UK division, not a single individual from the US part of News Corp has been implicated

But there's been enough concern about a possibility of 9/11 victims families' phones being hacked for the FBI to open an investigation.
I hope they make a better job of it than our boys in blue did, and I wouldn't be in the least surprised if they uncover a similar can of worms as was found here.

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20 Jul 2011, 6:57 am

Murdoch just got through his Parliament hearing largely unscathed.

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20 Jul 2011, 7:15 am

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Murdoch just got through his Parliament hearing largely unscathed.

Well, he (and Murdoch minor) presented an act fairly poorly but I think enough damage will have been caused by the "I didn't know, guv - honest" thing and the laughable "He was dealing with that" thing from the other players.
The bigger issue is the whole arrangement with politicians, and the police with their appalling mishandling of the investigation.
They basically said "Nothing to see here; move along please" without even bothering to investigate in any depth until their arm was forced.

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