Why don't people take UFOs and ancient astronauts seriously?

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You still can't explain ALL UFOs as military craft. Not even close.

You still can't explain ALL UFOs as military craft. Not even close.

If they do come a pleasant thought is they would come here to save us from ourselves; imagine altruism from another planet.

Hopefully they wouldn't come here, along the lines as Stephen Hawkins suggests, to "serve man" as portrayed in that infamous twilight zone show, where the aliens came to earth with a bible like book called to "serve man"; us thinking they were here to help us, when the "serve man" bible was actually a cookbook. They were actually here because they were looking at man as a source of food.

The planet Venus accounts for a fair number of sightings alone, and satellites, the ISS, blimps, meteors in atmospheric entry, and low resolution camcorders.

I assume you mean Hawking. Does he actually refer to the story? The original story is rather better than the Twilight Zone reprise - a lot of Twilight Zone adaptations augmented the hokey at the expense of quality.

In the story, there is no slightest link between the cookbook and a "Bible" - it is simply a pamphlet provided new staff at the alien headquarters.

Yes, simple acknowledgement that I'm not a random attention seeking jerk would be fabulous! It's not like seeing a round ball, or a giant strange balloon instantly causes me to go out into the street preaching about incoming invasions.

There are also pranks involving helium balloons, Chinese lanterns, glow-sticks, kites, LED flashlights, signal flares, and so forth (I've been involved in a few).

It's just this simple: If you can not identify something, then why assume anything other than a mundane cause? Why not simply say, "I don't know", and leave it a that? Why is it necessary for people to fill their ignorance with mythological creatures, extraterrestrial aliens, military conspiracies, or acts of unprovable deities?

And why is it that saying, "You don't know, so just say so" attracts so much derision when a simple acknowledgement would suffice?

Does there have to be a reason for everything?

I think there's something to it. I find it odd that all these ancient cultures built these megalithic stone structures, some without any evidence of a written language, and that modern experts really can't figure out how they did it all with primitive tools. Really, I think we know a lot less about reality and history than we'd like to think we do. Its really just ego. There's a lot of holes in mainstream archeology like the 8000 year old water erosion lines on the sphinx, but people would rather believe the experts who act like they have it all figured out because it gives them a sense of security.

Seriously? I bet you wouldn't believe that four guys could push a 2,500 Lb vehicle out of the mud, or that one guy could push a 3,000 Lb rusty steel paperweight with wheels uphill either. Get some strong ropes and continuously pour water on the ground beneath the stones being moved and a few hundred laborers and watch how fast things move.

Its not just moving the blocks that's the mystery but a lot of other things. Take the great pyramids of Giza. Building the bottom layer isn't really hard to figure out, but the best theory they can come up with for the pyramids is that they built a massive ramp that they had to adjust for each, subsequent layer. For the top layer, the ramp would have had to be a mile long. which sounds like a more complicated structure than the pyramid itself.

Also, each limestone brick had to be cut perfectly within a tolerance of 1/10,000 of an inch in order to have the perfect, pyramidal form it has, and there was 1.5 million of them to keep up with.

Another interesting thing to note is that drilling experts have looked at the drill marks in the granite stones of the sarcophagus room, and they look like they were created with modern, diamond drill bits running at a modern, electic speed. I read about all this in Graham Hancock's Fingerprints of the Gods. Its a really good book.

10. President Ronald Reagan

Ronald Reagan, who played many cowboys during his Hollywood career, once tried to lasso a UFO. In 1974 when Reagan was governor of California, he saw a bright white light zigzagging alongside the Cessna in which he was flying. A shocked Reagan asked the pilot for an explanation. When the pilot couldn’t explain, Reagan told him, “Let's follow it!” The pilot did so for several minutes until in Reagan’s words, “all of a sudden to our utter amazement it went straight up into the heavens!” Reagan never abandoned his belief in UFOs. In an April 2009 interview with Charlie Rose, former Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev revealed a secret conversation with Reagan about a mutual defense against a possible alien attack.


9. Dr. Josef Allen Hynek

Josef Hynek, a respected astronomer, was initially a UFO skeptic. The U.S. Air Force appointed him science consultant to the U.S. Air Force’s Project Blue Book to be their official UFO debunker. After serving in that capacity from 1952 to 1969 and personally investigating hundreds of phenomena for which he could find no scientific explanation, Hynek’s skepticism eroded. In a Nov. 27, 1978, speech before a U.N. committee Hynek stated, “It is my considered opinion, as a scientist who has devoted many years to its study, that the UFO phenomenon is real and not the creation of disturbed minds.” Hynek’s greatest contribution is the Center for UFO Studies that he established and which is now a major scientific repository for UFO reports.


8. Voters in Denver, Colorado

They may not be famous individually, but 31,108 voters made history in Colorado’s Nov. 2, 2010, election when they voted to establish the world’s first Extraterrestrial Affairs Commission. Operating within Denver’s city government, the commission would provide city residents a web portal on which to get information about UFOs and report sightings. More provocatively, the commission would “evaluate potential risks and benefits of interacting with extraterrestrial visitors.” The ballot initiative failed — this time. But the voters who favored the commission sent a clear signal to ETs hovering above the Rockies that Denver is, in the words of Kelly Brough, Denver Chamber of Commerce, “Open to business — to all other planets.”


7. Dr. Hermann Oberth

Hermann Oberth, “The Father of Space Travel,” was persuaded of alien visitors by the sheer weight of observations, well over 10,000 by 1953. The German rocket scientist was particularly impressed by the dozens of modern sightings by Air Force officers trained in visual recognition. Oberth himself recounted stories of strange flying objects during World War II that the Allies thought was a secret German weapon. In an Oct. 24, 1954, article in American Weekly, Oberth said, “I think that they (UFOs) possibly are manned by intelligent observers who are members of a race that may have been investigating our earth for centuries.”


6. Edgar Mitchell

Apollo 14 astronaut Edgar Mitchell, the sixth man to prance across the Moon, believes alien incursions to Earth are being covered up by the U.S. government. In a Discovery Channel radio interview Mitchell explained he was living in Roswell at the time of the famous “incident.” His personal knowledge of alien spacecraft and bodies came from what Mitchell calls, “the old-timers, people who were at Roswell and subsequent who wanted to clear the things up.” Mitchell says with unshakable certitude, “There was a UFO crash. There was an alien spacecraft.”


5. Monsignor Corrado Balducci


The members of the Curia, the Vatican’s centuries-old bureaucracy, are not known for being gullible. So when Balducci, a Vatican theologian and friend of the late Pope John Paul II, expresses his strong belief in extraterrestrials, he turns heads. In an Oct. 8, 1995, interview on Italian TV, Msgr. Balducci was asked whether UFOs were real. The Vatican cleric answered with startling certainty, “We can not longer think is it true, is it not true…there are already many considerations which makes the existence of these beings into a certainty. We cannot doubt.”


4. Paul Hellyer

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Paul Hellyer, the former minister of national defense in Canada, not only believes in extra-terrestrials; like some others, he’s absolutely convinced the U.S. government does too and is covering it up. In his 1988 book, Light at the End of the Tunnel: A Survival Plan for the Human Species, Hellyer claims the U.S. military is in possession of alien technology. Where are the feds hiding it? In Roswell and Nevada’s Area 51, of course. When asked why as Canadian defense minister he did not make these accusations public, Hellyer admitted, “I might get fired for it."


3. Gordon Cooper

“Gordo” Cooper, the Mercury and Gemini astronaut, recounts several instances in which he saw UFOs up close. In the 1950s in Germany Cooper saw a number of “radiant flying discs” over several days. The UFOs flew – if that’s the right word — high above his own jet but did not approach. Cooper’s belief in UFOs is set out clearly in his famous letter to the U.N. Ambassador from Grenada urging the United Nations to form a project to study UFO phenomenon. In his letter dated Nov. 9, 1978, Cooper wrote, “I believe that these extra-terrestrial vehicles and their crews are visiting this planet from other planets.”


2. President Jimmy Carter

Jimmy Carter is the only man attacked by both a “killer rabbit” and a UFO. On the evening of Jan. 6, 1969, Carter was chatting outdoors with members of a Lion’s Club near his hometown of Plains, Georgia. Looking up, Carter was startled by something moving in his direction at great speed. “As bright as the moon,” Carter said. Because there was no moon or exterior club lights, Carter called it “self-luminous.” The bright object stopped, reversed direction, repeated the maneuver several times and then vanished. Carter promised as president to release all UFO files. It didn’t happen.


1. Professor Stephen Hawking

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Stephen Hawking is not exactly rolling out the welcome mat for a real ET. In an April 2010 Discovery Channel documentary, Stephen Hawking’s Universe, the British astrophysicist called alien contact “risky.” Hawking explained that if beings from a superior civilization came to earth, “the outcome would be much as when Columbus landed in America, which didn't turn out well for the Native Americans." Hawking warned, "Such advanced aliens would perhaps become nomads, looking to conquer and colonize.”

For starters the Egyptians did have a writing system, however they used papyrus and a lot of those scrolls degraded due to age, fire, etc. As far as the construction of the pyramids goes, we really don't know their level of technology because a lot of information was lost with the destruction of the Libraries of Alexandria during the time of Cleopatra (sp?).

I didn't say that the Egyptians didn't have a writing system. I was saying that some of the cultures, like the builders of Machu Pichu or Stone Henge, left no evidence of a written language for excavators to find. There's a good chance they did use some sort of parchment and that it all degraded away over time, but I find it odd they didn't leave their language carved in any walls or tablets like the Eqyptians did on their ruins or like we do on our monuments today.