14 dead and 50 injured in mass shooting in Colorado.

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Haven't read the whole thread. Presumably someone brought up the possibility that he may have AS, as is customary here on WP. After all, he was reclusive and smart.

Oh, and totally freaking psycho.

Oh, I agree that schizophrenic persons don't usually shoot up a place like this guy did. But the fact remains, a normal, mentally well balanced person isn't going to kill and wound a theater full of people, either. Just remember, the lunatic who shot Gabby Gifford and wounded and killed others had been diagnosed as schizophrenic.

-Bill otherwise known as Kraichgauer

I agree about the media but unfortunately it seems the rush to blame someone happens after almost every tragedy in this country. I believe Jared Loughner, the Tucson shooter, was linked the Tea Party, Communists, Nazis, 9/11 truthers, by the agenda driven media when in reality the guy was just completely nuts. James Holmes is a pretty generic name and there have been numerous people misidentified as the shooter at this point.

here's a live timeline of the events

http://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/w ... /?sort=new

Yeah so what of it? that does not mean schizophrenic people are more likely to commit violent crimes than non schizophrenic people. And with that one I think they handled it pretty stupidly......if he was in fact schizophrenic and delusional at the time of the crime he should have been not guilty be reason of insanity and been given adequate psychological care not thrown in a normal prison with that not even being considered as a factor all because he happened to shoot a senator whos so much more important than a regular citizen.

But that said just because one schizophrenic person does that does not mean they all would.

Oh, no, I never said all schizophrenic people are going to commit mass murder.
And also, it should be remembered, there are plenty of mentally ill people in prison. The defendant can get off with an "innocent due to insanity" defense only if it can be demonstrated that he or she was incapable of distinguishing the wrongness of the crime. And even then, it's about the hardest defense to pull off.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

Everybody thought the shooting was part of the movie until they woke up and saw the blood from the massacre. My heart goes out to the victims and their loved ones.

You know for every event like this there is at least 10 watching the news getting a hard on and thinking they can do it bigger, which really frightens me.
It never fails to surprise me that the same old red puffy faced blowhard right wingers here warning us of an impending left-wing conspiracy to take away
their guns, maybe its time to take them away. I am sure this will rile up alot of the insecure types that think its their god given right to bare arms, but they
are not rational individuals, the people that do these monstrous crimes are supposedly law abiding citizens till they flip out. Maybe the government should
take all guns away, and if these idiots and cowards who hide behind their antiquated second amendment protest then let the guns be pulled from their cold
dead hands as they can't be considered rational beings.

Loughner could have been interested in all that but it is not the reason why he shot at the Congresswoman. It's the same sort of idea with loners. Some criminals are loners but it doesn't mean all loners are criminals. Yet, the media wants to paint every person who does something violent a loner.

Honesty in the media in this case would go something like, "Promising PhD candidate majoring in Neuroscience prepares to drop out of his PhD program and goes on a shooting spree in a movie theater." That sums up what he did and is true to who he is. I haven't heard that on the news though. I have heard them talk about how he was in the PhD program at Colorado U but they don't harp on his standing as an honor student when he graduated at the University of California or any of the positive things he has done in life. They seem so disappointed the only run in with police was when he was given a ticket for speeding. If he was really a "loner" with a criminal past, the media would say it every two minutes.

For the last few years now, there's always claims that the shooter was a member of the tea party and there's always claims they were active in OWS or some liberal cause. So far, it always turns out almost all had their own private vendetta for doing it that usually doesn't make sense to anyone when the exact details are available at all. I know of one left wing extremist and what looked like a media coverup of a [separate] couple of loners looking to earn 72 virgins, but that's all I can think of off the top of my head when it comes to motives anyone can figure out.

I am praying to Almighty God that he wasn't schizophrenic. It is because I am schizoaffective myself and would never commit this or any crime. I would never hurt people, just myself. I hate the stigma of mental illness, I guess we are all wild animals that need to be shot on sight. According to the media, we are all bad. We are all killers. We are dangerous. But that is simply not true. I believe it will turn out this guy was schizophrenic though. I don't mind him having "anti-social personality disorder" though (if he does...I'd rather him have that instead of schizophrenic). They are actually more likely to commit a crime. They also lie all the time. Torture animals. I just KNOW it will turn out he is crazy.

And you're a lot better than them...

Anyone who disagrees with you is an irrational being and should have their rights taken away or be killed if they resist.

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Now maybe it's you who is the irrational one:

There's no "conspiracy" to take away guns, but the Obama administration did allow, through the Fast and Furious program, guns to be sold to Mexican drug cartels. Later:

"June-July 2011: House Democrats submit gun-control legislation, and [b]e-mails surface showing that Fast and Furious was designed to promote gun control."

Source: Operation Fast and Furious Timeline

God given right to bear arms? No, Constitutionally protected right to bear arms:

"A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."

US Constitution, Amendment 2

I'm sorry, but the US has 88.8 guns per 100 people. If you think that 88.8 out of every 100 people are mass killing maniacs, you are truly a fool.

Guns Per Capita

You know what's also against the law? Murder. I'm pretty sure a guy who killed about 12 people and left 60 more injured does not give a damn about the laws regarding gun purchases. If you outlaw guns, only outlaws will have guns, as they buy them on the black market, while law-abiding citizens are left defenseless.

Source: Operation Fast and Furious Timeline[url=url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution]US Constitution, Second Amendment[/url]Guns Per Capita

Now ABC news is saying his mother is a psychiatric nurse. If he had a mental illness, she should be the one to know.

Look up DC v. Heller and also Warren v. DC. Four years ago the 2nd amendment was ruled an individual right (and still relevant), and the police have no obligation to protect you as an individual.

The only places I've read about this person possibly having AS were on other message boards, as it was mentioned that he had a Master's degree and was a PhD candidate but didn't have a job at the time. I think that would be awful if that were the case, as people might think all with AS are ticking time bombs.

Where did he get the cash for such an arsenal is what am wondering ? and how the regulations concerning each weapon was handled.

That's why I think he is a spoiled rich kid. He had so much extra money to spend on all this stuff. Guns and ballistic armory. He probably got the money from his college fund.