The religion(s) of peace

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10 Jan 2013, 4:02 pm

we have similar elements in KKK and white supremacy organisations
ultra pro black doctrine and all side have all bases covered

Look at India and interdenominational violence, displays of violence in China linked to autonomy and territory

how are those US twin girls who started singing pro white songs?? when they were about 10yrs old, their parents did the same kind of thing

I just youtubed 'church fight' -OMG!!

heres a fight in a Jerusalem church between Greek and Armenian - PRIESTS!!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8g1YFlBX1Y[/youtube]

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10 Jan 2013, 4:32 pm

Maybe the important question is why there's so much hatred and controlling behavior in the world, whether it's tied to religion, race, gender, politics, or anything else. Why so much division and hatred?

Maybe there are simply too many people trying to live too closely together, at the same time not trying very hard to understand one another or where the other is coming from. ANYONE of any race, religion, non-religion, gender, age group or socio-political standing, may react negatively to being marginalized or spoken of in blanket or stereotypical terms. Feeling left out again and again - a feeling I think most people with AS or ASD can understand.

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10 Jan 2013, 4:48 pm

BlueAbyss wrote:

Oh yes, I agree. Thanks for clarifying.

No problem. I hope you didn't think I meant you in particular since you do not seem like the type that wants to fight with others :S

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10 Jan 2013, 5:38 pm

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:

BlueAbyss wrote:

Oh yes, I agree. Thanks for clarifying.

No problem. I hope you didn't think I meant you in particular since you do not seem like the type that wants to fight with others :S

No problem. I just wanted to ensure I wasn't coming off as more feisty than I am.

Sometimes I do belabor a point or get too argumentative when I don't mean to be.

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10 Jan 2013, 6:54 pm

there is a genuine religion of peace. Bahai

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10 Jan 2013, 10:20 pm

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there is a genuine religion of peace. Bahai

Where is it based? It's in a Middle Eastern country but it's been persecuted in the Muslim ones.

Go on, I'm dying for someone to let on.

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11 Jan 2013, 3:22 am

The bible is hypocritical and it conflicts with itself. the ideas don't agree with each othe rand the bible is historical inaccrute anyhow.

Mensa did a survey and found a link between poorly educated people and religon.

makes sense really

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11 Jan 2013, 7:43 am

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I agree that most of the teachings attributed to Jesus are peaceful. I think it is not Jesus but distortions of his teachings that are the biggest problem. This is likely true of Mohammed as well, though I'm not as familiar with Islam. I've read the Bible, but not (yet) the Koran, so I can't compare. But I have spoken to Muslims about Islam and to me what they described was essentially a religion of peace.

I assume they left out these parts:

- Female genital mutilation
- Death penalty for apostasy (only away from Islam, of course)
- Death penalty for homosexuality
- Death penalty for insulting Muhammad
- Death penalty for being a Jew (correction: The duty to kill all Jews... shouldn't be misrepresenting Islam, now should I?)
- Beheading male members of a surrendering enemy tribe and distributing the women and children to your followers as slaves
- Slavery (surprised?)
- The right to rape* slaves (Otherwise, what's the point of having slaves?)

*Silly me. The concept of rape doesn't even exist in Sharia.

And all of the above points are supported by either verses of the Quran or "authentic" Sunni hadith.

Oh, but that *tiny* omission was surely just an oversight... right?

Female genital mutilation has no basis in Islam, and I'm at a loss for what you're even misinterpreting.

Re: slavery: You think enforcing a flawless society all of a sudden in the seventh century would have worked? Slavery was hardly encouraged, it just wasn't outright prohibited.

I'm not particularly motivated to risk spreading false information just to inform you that you're taking things out of context and what the correct context is, when you're almost certainly not going to listen to me anyway, so that's as much of an argument as you get to draw me into.

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11 Jan 2013, 7:51 am

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I'm told that the Arabic word for black people is the same as the word used for slaves and servants.

Yep. You're right about that. At least that's the more common Arabic word used to label the black people. Most Arab-speaking people I know don't even know the formal politically correct word for "black people" in Arabic.

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11 Jan 2013, 8:24 am

Viper, you forgot the consumation of marriage of mohamed with Aisha when she was nine years old.

Sorry for the off topic, but MCalavera: Grim Fandango is a great game

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11 Jan 2013, 8:27 am

ModusPonens wrote:

Sorry for the off topic, but MCalavera: Grim Fandango is a great game

You bet!

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11 Jan 2013, 8:45 am

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Thanks for backing me up on this. A Muslim taught me that.

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11 Jan 2013, 9:42 am

Boo himself, if he's reading this thread, can verify this as well.

The word itself is "abd" which is exactly the Arabic word for "slave"

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11 Jan 2013, 9:45 am

MCalavera wrote:

The word itself is "abd" which is exactly the Arabic word for "slave"

If I'm right, that also features in many Arabic names, like Abdullah (i.e. servant of Allah).

I haven't mentioned the continuing slavery still indulged in with glee by Arabs over blacks in Africa. Is it racist to mention that? I bet it is.

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11 Jan 2013, 9:45 am

Tequila wrote:

MCalavera wrote:

The word itself is "abd" which is exactly the Arabic word for "slave"

If I'm right, that also features in many Arabic names, like Abdullah (i.e. servant of Allah).

Yes. And it's better translated as "slave of Allah".

To my knowledge, the Arabic word for "servant" is "khadem".

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11 Jan 2013, 9:46 am

MCalavera wrote:

Yes. And it's better translated as "slave of Allah".

Thank you. The translation seems to have several different definitions.

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