Why do so many people believe in an afterlife?

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21 Jan 2013, 7:14 am

ripped wrote:
We could go into it if you'd like.


Have you ever died? Perhaps you could tell us about your afterlife experience.



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21 Jan 2013, 7:21 am

Tequila wrote:
ripped wrote:
We could go into it if you'd like.


Have you ever died? Perhaps you could tell us about your afterlife experience.


^ This.


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21 Jan 2013, 7:22 am

Tequila wrote:
ripped wrote:
We could go into it if you'd like.


Have you ever died? Perhaps you could tell us about your afterlife experience.


The colors are brilliant there, like the saturation on your screen turned up full blast, but it is fantastically rich. I have all of my senses and my body is young and strong. I am in a place like what I imagine the jungle of Africa to be, but of course it is not there. There is a feeling like being in love for the first time, like I could throw myself off buildings ( not that I saw any ) and be perfectly safe. I could not be harmed. I remember walking into a clearing and seeing some soft tussock I was tired and I laid down to rest.
It didn't last long and that is all I remember.



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21 Jan 2013, 7:23 am

ripped wrote:
Tequila wrote:
ripped wrote:
We could go into it if you'd like.


Have you ever died? Perhaps you could tell us about your afterlife experience.


The colors are brilliant there, like the saturation on your screen turned up full blast, but it is fantastically rich. I have all of my senses and my body is young and strong. I am in a place like what I imagine the jungle of Africa to be, but of course it is not there. There is a feeling like being in love for the first time, like I could throw myself off buildings ( not that I saw any ) and be perfectly safe. I could not be harmed. I was perfectly safe everywhere I went and all I wanted to do there was rest.
It didn't last long and that is all I remember.


Photos or it didn't happen. :P


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21 Jan 2013, 8:00 am

ripped wrote:
It didn't last long and that is all I remember.


You cannot die and come back to life. It is physically impossible.

Ergo, you're a bullshitter.



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21 Jan 2013, 8:03 am

Near death experience maybe?



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21 Jan 2013, 8:08 am

MCalavera wrote:
Near death experience maybe?


Highlighted for clarification. I'm sure you approve. ;)



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21 Jan 2013, 8:17 am

Sure, no problem.



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21 Jan 2013, 8:41 am

Tequila wrote:
ripped wrote:
It didn't last long and that is all I remember.


You cannot die and come back to life. It is physically impossible.

Ergo, you're a bullshitter.


Or he had a hallucination / vivid dream while unconscious. Simple as that.


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21 Jan 2013, 9:05 am

i like to perform my concerts in cemetery's at midnight because i am relieved of the sensory irritation of screeching applause.



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21 Jan 2013, 9:36 am

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i like to perform my concerts in cemetery's at midnight because i am relieved of the sensory irritation of screeching applause.


Good one. :lol:



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21 Jan 2013, 11:42 am

ripped wrote:
Erm, no.
If you kill a person in this life, whether you get caught for it or not, you will return to spirit.
In spirit, the spirit who's person you killed will bear no grudge against you.
But you have only had one half of an experience, and to the soul this is all about learning.
So in your next life or the next, you will guided into a scenario where the other person kills you, and then you will learn what it feels like to be taken by their hand.
Not a judgement, not a punishment, but the fulfillment of the other half of the experience.
And it is as certain as death itself.

I did believe this for a while, now I'm closer to believing that most often its one time and whether you or the person you kill or who kills you go to heaven or hell is based on whether you and they got right with Christ before you died. For what I've researched the evidence for new age being a con job keeps getting stronger, symmetrically with the bible being the word of the supreme deity and his son who died on the cross for our sins.



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21 Jan 2013, 6:30 pm

Tequila wrote:
ripped wrote:
It didn't last long and that is all I remember.


Ergo, you're a bullshitter.


The question was: 'What was my experience of the afterlife.'
So I said so.

Tequila wrote:
You cannot die and come back to life. It is physically impossible.


The kingdom of Heaven is accessible and seeable even on this earth, while walking and experiencing in a waking state, were you to have the eyes to see it.
You don't have to die to open your eyes in spirit, although this is the most sure fire way to do so.



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21 Jan 2013, 6:35 pm

techstepgenr8tion wrote:
ripped wrote:
Erm, no.
If you kill a person in this life, whether you get caught for it or not, you will return to spirit.
In spirit, the spirit who's person you killed will bear no grudge against you.
But you have only had one half of an experience, and to the soul this is all about learning.
So in your next life or the next, you will guided into a scenario where the other person kills you, and then you will learn what it feels like to be taken by their hand.
Not a judgement, not a punishment, but the fulfillment of the other half of the experience.
And it is as certain as death itself.

I did believe this for a while, now I'm closer to believing that most often its one time and whether you or the person you kill or who kills you go to heaven or hell is based on whether you and they got right with Christ before you died. For what I've researched the evidence for new age being a con job keeps getting stronger, symmetrically with the bible being the word of the supreme deity and his son who died on the cross for our sins.


I'm only here to inspire constructive debate, not to change anyone's mind on anything, but how can anyone else die for your sins?



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21 Jan 2013, 7:20 pm

ripped wrote:
Tequila wrote:
ripped wrote:
It didn't last long and that is all I remember.


Ergo, you're a bullshitter.


The question was: 'What was my experience of the afterlife.'
So I said so.

Tequila wrote:
You cannot die and come back to life. It is physically impossible.


The kingdom of Heaven is accessible and seeable even on this earth, while walking and experiencing in a waking state, were you to have the eyes to see it.
You don't have to die to open your eyes in spirit, although this is the most sure fire way to do so.


That's like saying there's invisible sh*t all around us.



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21 Jan 2013, 9:32 pm

ripped wrote:
I'm only here to inspire constructive debate, not to change anyone's mind on anything, but how can anyone else die for your sins?
Redemption of an entire system that took a strange turn. Wasn't a person who died for our sins but the very being who created the hierarchy from which the situation started and essentially, in receiving a bowl of his own wrath (or the Fathers if you'd phrase it as such) it meant that said deity came into perfect atunement (and atonement) with empathy as the effects of all lives lived had to be taken up to the Godhead. This also gave the Godhead (trinity) full experience of the problem, what went wrong, etc., essentially gaining the information to rectify this once and for all so that such a battle or chess game never has to happen again.

Something that Issam Nemeh said that seemed fascinating to me - the battle triggered by the challenge put forward to the wayward angels in creating Adamic man as higher than them was to call out those who would disobey God and call back those who'd gotten lax and saw the challenge for what it was. Its not that part that gets me but the added understanding that by the role that the son (Jesus) plays in the trinity that if he had not come down and died on the cross the events here and the corruption of the fallen angels would have reflected themselves back up and there would have been very real danger of the Son being polluted/corrupted (the Son has to reflect the father perfectly).

This reminds me of a conversation I had with a friend and his brother who were big in to at least mind-over-matter metaphysics and they explained something: ie. God, a reflection, and then the world/universe that we know being the reflection of the reflection. Tying that to what's said above it makes perfect sense.