what ideology have killed most people?

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Its overlooking the elephant in the room that the gentrification of richer croplands led to other foodstuffs being taken out of the hands of Irish commoners by English landlords in the first place.

Israeli potato criminals and English landlords did it.

So capitalism caused the industrial revolution...which ended slavery. oh ok

Capitalism also seems to coincide with abundant food most of the time. Europe hasn't had any starvation in the last 200 years?
Whereas in Soviet Russia and it's satellites you have the famous bread lines, and hyperinflation due to government over spending and borrowing.

One bad thing about capitalism is say a Walmart being worse than several small shops that sell different things, people can boycott Walmart though.

Another bad thing is a corporation buying out farms or radio stations like clearchannel. The radio station thing isn't so bad with the advent of the internet.

I bet you think Anders Breivik is a great guy, don't you?

A striking contrast.

This just in from socialist Venezuela:

you say this in a thread which has featured discussion on the Irish potato famine in the 1840's? Anyway, what about the impact of western appetites on the parts of the world that capitalism exploits to feed them? Plenty of starvation there.

Venezuala has so much money coming in due to oil, they are socialist which means the wealth should be shared...but people are still starving and angry!!
But that's not possible!!

ok 170 years of abundant food in Europe, still not bad!

If you are going to claim we have abundant food because of exploiting others you have to provide some information,evidence, proof, SOMETHING.

Up until recently the USA was known as 'the bread basket of the world' because it produced so much food.

How exactly is that because of exploitation of the third world?

here's something about asparagus from The Guardian newspaper in the UK, just for an example that took about half a second to Google:

'Feeding our apparently insatiable 365-day-a-year hunger for this luxury vegetable, Peru has also cornered the world market in asparagus. Result? In the arid Ica region where Peruvian asparagus production is concentrated, this thirsty export vegetable has depleted the water resources on which local people depend. NGOs report that asparagus labourers toil in sub-standard conditions and cannot afford to feed their children while fat cat exporters and foreign supermarkets cream off the profits. That's the pedigree of all those bunches of pricy spears on supermarket shelves.'

Happy?

I'm also curious about this 'Third world' of which you speak. Can you explain what that is?

Then why does the government of Peru allow this, and does not protect its citizens? These people are led by leftists so no reason to blame the right wing capitalists for this. They can't be making much money either because asparagus are not that expensive.

The US government subsidizes the growing of asparagus in Peru, as part of a program intended to get farmers there to grow something other than coca. That's not capitalism.

Wow, that sounds really stupid. Asparagus also drains nutrients from the ground much more then other crops, the soil is only useful for a few years and than you can't even grow asparagus there for quite a while.
A real capitalist would just let them produce coke and let the market decide whether people want to buy it.

This just in from capitalist Africa





As for Russia the only contrast is how things got worse since 1991, with increasing mortality, HIV infections and the spread of Krokodil.
http://missinglink.ucsf.edu/lm/russia_g ... ealth2.htm

From Thomas's perspective the fact of being white and capitalism has killed the most people!

I do find it funny how reactionaries bring up Yeltsin's Russia as a juxtaposition from the USSR to prove their point. Not only is it flagrantly false (the Russian economy and standard of living for ordinary Russians actually plummeted under Yeltsin) but the same voices are now casting doom and gloom for Russia under Putin despite the fact that it hasn't been as strong now as since the peak of the USSR.

Racial allegiances are pathetic and mean nothing. The fascists in Ukraine with aspirations of Valhalla have hedged their bets with the losing side and are about to get crushed underfoot by the tanks of the red russian orks. lol I don't see the world in the same dimensions as you. You see the world in terms of black and white, I see it in terms of 'red' and 'blue' for the most part. With secondary colours as sub factions.

I'll give you some game analogies.


Warhammer-
Blue- Imperial Guard
Red- Chaos Marines
Green- Orks

Command and conquer
Blue- GDI
Red- Nod
Green - The Shiners


CnC Red Alert
Blue- The Allies
Red- Soviet Union
Purple - Yuri



Now, The Real World

Blue- NATO/Israel
Red- BRICS
Black- ISIS


None of the above specifically apply to me though. I feel like the fifth faction that didn't make the cut. Don't like blues though.

What about purple? When red and blue mix ya get purple!