What if Obama really forged his birth Birth Certificate?

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Youd think. But that has to be legislated. The Constitution doesnt say anything about that. The US was an upstart breakaway country without any foreign bases yet when the Founding Fathers were doing their founding.


The amusing thing is that it could be argued that the first nine US Presidents all violated the rule because all nine( though born in what are now U.S. States) were born "in a foreign country" since the first nine were each born before the US existed as a nation yet.

Our tenth president, Tyler, was the first president born after the declaration of Independence in 1776 (if you consider that the Nation's birth), and he was also the first born after the ratification of the Constitution in 1789 (if you consider that our b-day).

At president number 12, Zachary Taylor (b. 1784), we reverted to a president born after the DOI, but before the Constitution. Then after that reversal at president number 12 we resumed having only presidents actually born unambiguously as U.S. citizens rather than born as subjects of the British Crown.

Employers will pay whatever people are will work for, sometimes a little more. I don't see, from a practical standpoint, why that would change.
You can't convince me that people don't waste money. Older people of the generation you think had it so well were products of the great depression and WW2 era so they and thier offspring were by nature much more thrifty than the current crop. People want everything at once now and refuse to sacrifice other things for it. I have two cousins that have gone bankrupt in their early/mid 20's because of careless i want this, i want that kid in a candy store spending. I know several others that are not relatives that have done the same. Call me an anachronism but I live within my means.

If you've already proven you can hold a job it would be hard to justify honestly. Really, do you even try any more?


Believe it or not so do I. However, I believe in separating those in NEED of help from the work evasion cases who WANT help but won't help themselves.


Yeah, sure; everyone on disability is legit and no one would ever dream of faking it for a free ride. Maybe on your planet but not on mine.

Whatever, but I doubt it would even be practical or even advisable to attempt to cull out the slackers. The clumsy bureaucratic government workers tasked with it would end up tossing out those in actual need and keeping most of the ones they are supposed to be weeding out.

^^^
Whatever. I'm drunk now, so I could care less. May Krampus visit you on Christmas!

After the revolutionary war there was a very realistic concern that some english aristocrat might come over, spend big on campaigning, and essentially turn the USA into a client state of the british empire.

The great thing about our system of law is that we can modify it through acts of congress. There are numerous laws on the books that grant "natural born" status to people who weren't physically born within our borders.

There are at least two laws that make McCain eligible.

Even if obama was born in kenya, which would have made him a subject of the queen of england, he would still qualify as natural born under the same law that qualifies Ted Cruz, who was born in canada.

You have to wonder if the same people who think Obama is ineligible to be President, because of his imagined Kenyan birth, wouldn't give Cruz's Canadian birth a second thought.

You do that a lot. Sobriety with you seems to be rather infrequent so instead of informing us when you're drunk, why not inform us when you're sober?
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Another way of saying I hit the nail on the head and you have no comeback.

Cheers...

The law is the law and we can't have a foreign born president, regardless of the party.

The law is the law. And there are numerous laws stating how people who are foreign born can be president, depending on circumstances.

How about I be sober when you're polite.

1. Show me where and how I was impolite.
2. Why let someone else control your sobriety?

1. If you need proof of your lack of politeness, just reexamine your post directed at me.
2. Good point.

No specifics here (as expected) but I'm sensing more of a persecution complex than anything.
Whatev...

Funny, you and your bff are the only ones who can elicit that emotion out of me, implying that the problem may in fact rest in your court.

What about Inuyasha? I remember him tying your tail in knots a few times...

Then you misremember, because I actually liked Inuyasha, as nuts as he could get. Sometimes I had to remind him that he shouldn't be overly rude to friends during our arguments that went on for page after page. Regardless, he was genuinely an Aspie, with all the isolation and loneliness that implies, and so I was more than happy to let a lot go by for that reason. And for that reason, I actually still miss him.

^ ^ "Genuinely an aspie". Hmmm...

I do recall an earlier thread where you told someone that you suspected that your two arch nemeses here (wonder who those could be? ) weren't really on the spectrum.

So you think these two nemeses are just NT trolls/bullies that have dedicated 7 or 8 years on WP just to screw with real Aspies like you.
Is that it?

And I'm still would like to see the examples of my impoliteness toward you.
Don't blame it if you can't name it.