i am legitimately scared about trump becoming president

Post Reply New Topic

Yes what he could get, you think the rest of us regular citizens are going to see any of it?

You misunderstood. I was only referring to the hypothetical nun, not Sanders.

Can you point out where I argued that Sanders is inexperienced?

Nope.

Yes because there's zero regulations on guns . Not like there thousands and thousands of gun laws on the books. Not like full auto guns are banned, not like having a sbr is restricted, not like we need a permit to carry a gun, not like we have to pay taxes on guns, not like you have to be a certain age to buy or own guns, etc. yep guns aren't regulated at all.

I used it as an example because its something you like and people have supported banning types of music in the past and it could happen again. The 1st amendment is no more safe then the 2nd is, so if you think music is safe from people's anti freedoms they disagree with your wrong. I think a few states banned jazz and rock for a while. Am lot of people think bad violent music like heavy metal and rap cause violent culture.


Because you don't care about guns when Obama says "we should do what Australia did and ban all guns" you just continue on like its static. People have selective hearing when it comes to attacks on stuff they don't care abou or directly effects you. Do you listen and pay attention to all of obamas speeches or clintons for that sake? Gun owners do.

You said your fine with banning simi auto guns and support the supper restrictive (can't go shooting with friends) universal background checks.

A lot of people are single issue voters. A lot of women voted for Obama because of women's rights, others for gay rights. But democrats are not just attacking gun rights they attack many rights. I know if any of them are elected their come for a bunch of my freedoms, if trump is he might take away welfare. He's a unknown he might even turn back to his democrats ways. Personally I'd rather have Ted cruez, or an idea pro gun pro welfar candidate but sadly those are few and will never get support from either party.

He removed your right to medical privacy so that he could use medical records to ban guns, this opens you private information up to others though not jus for gun stuff. But I suppose if you don't care about your privacy and potential employers knowing your infor the oh well. Personally I'm against this attack on aspies and Americans right to privacy. So now he can label all aspies as defective and mentally incompetent and employers can find out which employees are aspies or other disorders and let them go.

As a gun owner, ssi/ssdi receiver, food stamp person, and friends and family who shake weed I actually care quiet a bit about all that. Heck I even think crack should be legal. I'm for people's rights to do what they want as long as it don't effect others, so if someone wants to shoot up with crack in their house that's fine. I personally wouldn't want to but why should people not be able to do stuff because i don't like it. Really can't stand that. Like that person here who thought sex should be illegal because they think sex is disgusting. Republicans don't like me because I support welfare as I know how important it is.


Problem is that the proposed background check systems don't just target violent felons or child molesters. He wants to label aspies as the same as felons, I'm not s felon because I was born with a social disorder, social disorder doesn't make us more violent, it just means we have a hard time socializing in a world where socializing is important. It also makes it a felony to hand your friend you gun, that's an illegal transfer you need to legally transfer the gun to him via background check then when he's done transfer it back, though he can just not and keep it because legally it's his now. You can only do it without background check if it's family spouse or gay partnership, no gf/bf, and non family only if it's for a hunting trip and limited to like 5 days. If I had a gf I couldn't temporary leave a gun with her because she's had someone creeping around her place at night looking in her Windows. Heck if she lived with me I could only leave her alone with the guns in my house up to 14 days before I'd be s felon and her too.
If more people read the proposed background checks they'd probably be against it. Honesty if it was just "you must do a background check when buying a gun to keep as your so" then I wouldn't care other then its basically registration, but it's not it's a bloated law that makes regular people felons for doing stuff most normal people wouldn't be against them doing. The federal one required you go to a federal licensed gun range, those don't exist. Mean they get zoned and get s business permit with the the county but not with the Feds so there'd the no where to shoot, and most people in the northwest and in south west just go out into the forest or desert and shoot. But can't have that as then they wouldn't know if we let our friend shoot our gun, and can't have that oh noes.

If you ban some guns your banning guns, last I checked simi auto guns are guns and so a ban on them is banning guns. As I listed at the start there's tons and tons of regulations on guns already, gun owners feel like we are being strangled more and more. The anti gun people have already regulated us so much and they want more. They use lies like saying you can buy a gun online and have it shipped to your house, but that's been illegal since 1986. No shipping company is going to break the law for people, no gun company is going risk losing their business license and even attempt it. Guns online are shipped to a ffl where you go through a background check and if u fail you don't get the gun or your money back, if you pass you get a gun un inspected that could be scratched up or not what u thought it was. That's just one of many lies Obama and democrats tell to deceive the people in the middle.

Trump does not bother me, but Obama wanting to Amend the Constitution does.

You can have a gun but you have to keep it in a safe, keep ammo in a separate safe, notify the local police, file Gun Owner papers with the FBI, ATF, and pay annual fees, and you are not allowed to take it out of your home. Transporting a gun is a felony.

I would call that infringing upon the Right to own and bare arms.

"Congress shall make no law infringing upon the Peoples Right to keep and bare arms."

Some rights can be lost by some people, after being fully adjudicated in a court of competent jurisdiction.

Convicted Felons cannot vote or own guns, buy guns, posses guns, because they are convicted Felons.

The Mentally ill or defective who have been declared incompetent by a Court of Competent Jurisdiction cannot own guns.

The level of taking away a Right has been set high on purpose.

Barack should just move to England, Australia, where the ownership of all weapons is forbidden.

Abolishing the Constitutional Rights of people he does not like, White Republicans, is overstepping the Office he holds.

The process is known, to amend the Constitution a Constitutional Convention must be held, and proposed changes must be ratified by the States.

Perhaps he has other issues, Free Speech, Freedom of the Press, Assembly, the Right to Petition the Government for redress of grievances. The Right to keep and bare arms supports all the other Rights.

If we let that one go, we lose them all.

My bad! I conflated raptor with eric.
My "anyone can scroll back and see that you meant what I said you meant" was in response to,

The first paragraph was for raptor. The second was for eric.

To be fair raptor probably did not know what he meant. His objection was like someone saying,"all brown eyed people are evil". Another person responds," So you think Lincoln (a man with brown eyes) was evil." The first person says," Stop putting words in my mouth! I never said Lincoln was evil!" Such a response shows a lack of critical thinking skills.

Are you finished embarrassing yourself by creating four (4) posts just to correct/explain one little f**k up of yours that no one including me would have given a s**t about IF we even noticed? What exactly is it that you think you're enlightening people here about me that they don't already know all too well? My modus operandi is boringly familiar here and I frequently actually brag about my handiwork and encourage newbies to go look up my older posts.
Duh...

Your average progressive doesnt care one iota about rights as long as their welfare checks (under whatever guise) keep coming and they have the right to marry thier neighbor's shetland pony or whatever...

I get what the right considers welfare. Yet I'm not blindly supporting the left like you assume.

Personally I think we need 3 nations one for the left, one for the right and one for the other 80% of us. USA is far more purple then blue or red.

Trump should wear a purple tie. The Democrats claim he stole their programs, and the Republicans claim he is not a real conservative.

Social Security, the disabled, wounded warriors, the mess at the VA. National Health Care, with no deductible. No tax below $25,000. With 45 million collecting food stamps, I can see Trump coming out for a minimum income.

While it is true that people who are not paying taxes are costing us money, it is not a lot of money. instead of "helping" them, we could just give them money, get rid of illegals which will lower rents, and open up jobs.

If treated well, maybe a lot less would wind up in expensive jails.

It was found that building apartments for homeless people was cheaper than what was spent from them being on the streets, and those with medical care cost less to treat than those who do not.

The 45 million who are on food stamps, are Shocker! Mostly White and have jobs. As they do not pay taxes a tax cut does not work.

They are also at the greatest risk of losing what they have. Two weeks between jobs, a medical bill, total disaster.

We should be honest and pay a sh***y economy tax to those who suffer from our mismanagement.

Poor people are consumers, they will spend it. They have also been resourceful and do make something on their own.

An income floor of $1,000 a month, plus what they can earn, we have a future tax payer.

We get to abolish a lot of government programs that by their nature are inefficient and expensive.

SSI spends 10% on payments and healthcare, and 90% on Office, overhead, and payroll.

Now who is on Welfare? The same for food stamps, the Democrat desk.

Putting a floor beneath the poorest is the greatest thing we can do to reach an equality. The rich are not that rich, but the poor can get down to starving.

If a minimal life is the bottom, this would be a much nicer place.

We want people to dress better and have nice things. If we did create jobs, they would be ready to employ.

It is the same as sending kids to school, they are an expense, but in fifteen years they could be bagging groceries.

I do not begrudge a poor family feeding their children, buying back to school clothes, and having presents under the Christmas tree.

Guess what, it's your lucky day! This is a perfect chance to be a lesson in empathy.

There were tons of people scared about the current president being elected, and RE-elected. Now you know what it's like. That's part of being American, after all. Yeeha!

And think of the despair of people like me who detest both Trump and Obama... that car exhaust becomes more tempting every day


I don't know if you've noticed, but this country IS falling to pieces. And I'm glad that people's first concern when it comes to politicians is all the stuff they GET. Gee, what a fabulous way of life. The people only start to care when they are afraid their freebies will get yanked.

The unabashed self-interest infests the electorate is pathetic.

^^^^
This

Ok, you are right everyone knows that you lack critical thinking skills, your modus operandi. Everyone knows that you said that criticism of other people means that you are in favor of dictatorial North Korean behaviour. But wait, you criticized ravensxlaw and me. You north korean! Its so easy destroying arguments that contradict themselves.