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Would you date a feminist?
Yes 37%  37%  [ 55 ]
No 36%  36%  [ 53 ]
Ima girl 2%  2%  [ 3 ]
Ima girl and still yes 19%  19%  [ 29 ]
I'm a feminist and I am offended by this thread 6%  6%  [ 9 ]
Total votes : 149

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03 Mar 2016, 6:18 pm


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09 Mar 2016, 7:20 pm

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First, for the argument about feminism and what it's meant to mean, there's this.


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Appeal to Definition*

(also known as: appeal to the dictionary)

Definition: Using a dictionary’s limited definition of a term as evidence that term cannot have another meaning, expanded meaning, or even conflicting meaning. This is a fallacy because dictionaries don’t reason; they simply are a reflection of an abbreviated version of the current accepted usage of a term, as determined through argumentation and eventual acceptance. In short, dictionaries tell you what a word meant, according to the authors, at the time of its writing, not what it meant before that time, after, or what it should mean.

Dictionary meanings are usually concise, and lack the depth found in an encyclopedia; therefore, terms found in dictionaries are often incomplete when it comes to helping people to gain a full understanding of the term.


I would say that the only feminists im attracted to are the women that embody feminism without actually needing the movement. Genuinely strong women. Not women that are still trying to be strong and need a crutch. Which is how i see self described feminists. So no, i wouldn't date a feminist because they're idiots, but i would definitely date the kind of women that feminists are trying and failing to be.


Well, it's Feminist's I see identify strongly with the textbook definition of it.

Besides, as limited as definitions are, they are one thing that all language is - communication, and a form of message.

Obviously, 'Gender Equality Activist', as 'limiting' as it may be, is far more liberal for interpretation than 'Feminist'. Unless you actually believe someone who calls themselves a Feminist could just as likely be a Gender equality activist than someone who actually calls themselves a gender equality activist.

Which one may give a clearer message as to what your goals are, if indeed your goals are 'gender equality'?

That's like saying someone who says they are black, is just as white as someone who says they are white. Maybe they are partially, yeah, maybe some distant relative, but for simple purposes they're going to appeal to definition.

It's just basic English - to call something what it is, not what it may or could be.

It's a little hard to see Feminist's caring about men's rights at all if it's against the words definition. I'm sorry if I adhere to a logical fallacy and explicit communication rather than implicit communication.

We are aspies after all, and I thought it was natural most of us identify things by what they are, not what they 'could be'.



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09 Mar 2016, 8:16 pm

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Who the f**k is this man? I sure hope HE'S cheating on her as well! Then again maybe they have an *open marriage*......



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09 Mar 2016, 8:39 pm

If she is sex possitive and not a misandrist then yes, if she is a misandrist or sex negative like Andrea Dworkan then no!


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09 Mar 2016, 8:43 pm

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So feminism is all about married women having sex with men other than their husbands, and then bragging to their husbands about it ... ?

Weird.


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09 Mar 2016, 9:34 pm

I have spent hours telling my wife she is beautiful, intelligent, classy, worthy of respect, and important. I wish society would kick in and give me a little help here...


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12 Mar 2016, 2:23 am

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Men very rarely get custody of kids in court. They do only if the mother's conduct in life is especially egregious.

Note: I understand why the rights of women need attention.

in most states, primary custody is given to the primary caregiver. If more men would step up to the plate and do their share in taking care of the kids, you'd see custody equalize as a direct result.



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12 Mar 2016, 2:24 am

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But they dont, individuals face inequality because they simply áre unequal in their respective fields of relevance.
There is no such thing of a predetermined inequality against women, and if a buisiness just doesnt want to function with women in it, then go work at another or start your own. You cant force people with some political misconstruction to change their autonomous personal practice. Thats tyranny.

For example, if i would demand a job at a buisiness that is a field of trade that i am absolutely undeniably an asset to i will not be turned down. If i would not have practical validity to function in that field i would be turned down, wether my skin is black green blue white or piggy pink, my gender be woman man cat narwhal or majestic urstag. Lets say a buisiness works well with the staff it has and a woman tried to get a job (typical scenario incoming) the buisiness assesses the profit to be had on hiring such and may decide that in its current state she might be a distraction.. (i bet this is going to be triggerquoted as sexism but ok, if you let a man work at a womans trade buisiness youd get the same, and yes im going there because the topic is always 'equality' meaning typical activist women want to get jobs at male trade buisinesses (except anything that makes you tear muscles/physical work) or atleast the right to(wich they already have, just not in general the biologically dictated strenght) so all in all only the leadership functions(wich sounds like some kind of baseless entitlement to me since you need experience in the field to lead its respective buisiness, not a diploma on 'contemporary abstract art')
This reason is completely legitimate as as i said before the buisiness assesses it on its requirements and potential affect. Ok so it will be rare for a woman to try to get a job at heavy machinery, they do exist and if they are qualified they will get the job, proven by countless outbackers who work as tree-cutters or rig operatives that are *gasp* women. And not the kind that will stand around protesting for a living the moment they crawled out of "contemporary school" exhausted.

If you want something, you earn it by hard work, you dont demand it because 100 years ago women couldnt work, something that is in no way still so. Every institution is manned by people, and just demanding something means it will be taken away from those who work for it. It breeds incompetence, it creates institutions that have no expertise and with it are no institutions at all anylonger, it smashes the pillars of society away and lets it all fall in shambles.

Inequality is not an idea, it is a biological absolute. Not everyone is born equal, not everyone will develope themselves to some kind of standard and would everyone it would be just as i have said before; a tyranny.

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12 Mar 2016, 7:54 am

Lots of times, men do step up to the plate.

But they are still denied.

All things being equal, one must admit that courts still would award custody to the mother.

I don't really see much wrong in that, since there probably is more of a biological connection between a child and mother versus a child and father.

However, the fact is that it saddens some men when they are left out of the kids' lives

(Same with women, of course, if they are not granted custody).

I would agree that, in general, men should step up to the plate more.



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18 Mar 2016, 2:18 pm

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I would date a feminist if only to play head games with her and say things to deliberately piss her off. Like "Why is it that if a woman doesn't have sex, she's pure, but if a man doesn't have sex, he's a loser?" Or "If female breasts are not sexual, then why is touching them considered sexual assault?" You know, playing on feminist hypocrisy.

Feminists wouldn't consider sex to be an impurity. And touching anyone anywhere except for a benign handshake or pat on the back could be considered sexual assault.



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18 Mar 2016, 5:46 pm

LKL wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
Men very rarely get custody of kids in court. They do only if the mother's conduct in life is especially egregious.

Note: I understand why the rights of women need attention.

in most states, primary custody is given to the primary caregiver. If more men would step up to the plate and do their share in taking care of the kids, you'd see custody equalize as a direct result.



In states like South Carolina(among others), if a child is born out of wedlock then custody is granted to the MOTHER by default. The baby daddy has to petition to get joint custody if the mother does not agree to it. And if the father gets custody that's because he can convince a judge that the mother is unfit.

Family law is strongly biased towards women because there is an assumption that women are the primary caregivers regardless of the actual woman in question.



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18 Mar 2016, 11:39 pm

I find "feminist" to be an umbrella term for varying ideologies and beliefs. Needless to say some beliefs are more reasonable than others. I'd date a feminist as long as I respected her beliefs.



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19 Mar 2016, 11:29 am

I am a heterosexual female and yes, I would definitely date a feminist of the sort who believes in gender equality. In fact, my boyfriend is a feminist, as am I.



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19 Mar 2016, 11:37 am

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I am a heterosexual female and yes, I would definitely date a feminist of the sort who believes in gender equality. In fact, my boyfriend is a feminist, as am I.


Only women can be feminist. :oops:



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20 Mar 2016, 9:21 am

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I am a heterosexual female and yes, I would definitely date a feminist of the sort who believes in gender equality. In fact, my boyfriend is a feminist, as am I.

Age, 17......



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20 Mar 2016, 9:38 am

What about her age now??? :rambo:

A 17 year old Feminist isn't so far-fetched, in fact, this millenial generation about my age are absolutely full of little third-wave feminists.

And their boyfriends? Somewhat submissive males who are also 'feminists' and coincidentally almost always skinny guys, slightly effeminate, extremely nerdy/geeky.

Every girl I've dated has constantly been infected with this trend.

I believe, when it comes to dating, for the first three dates, whoever does the asking should do the paying, out of politeness and courtesy, and then after that it should be split.

Instead, every gal I've dated has absolute insisted on always paying for everything for herself - even my ex-girlfriend's mother suggested I should be the one who pays for our third date 'to treat her' as her family payed for me when I first met them, but that never happened.

I'm too traditional and chivalrous sometimes for these neo-feminists.