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27 Apr 2016, 3:59 pm

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I wonder if there are as many disaffected Buddhists as there are disaffected Catholics? something tells me not.

I acutally know a few.....Though not as vociferous as mainstream religions though and not real radicalism.

I suppose all religions/philosophies can eventually be outgrown.



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27 Apr 2016, 4:16 pm

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I wonder if there are as many disaffected Buddhists as there are disaffected Catholics? something tells me not.

I acutally know a few.....Though not as vociferous as mainstream religions though and not real radicalism.

I suppose all religions/philosophies can eventually be outgrown.

anybody can be disaffected for any reason.


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27 Apr 2016, 4:17 pm

zkydz wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
zkydz wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
I wonder if there are as many disaffected Buddhists as there are disaffected Catholics? something tells me not.

I acutally know a few.....Though not as vociferous as mainstream religions though and not real radicalism.

I suppose all religions/philosophies can eventually be outgrown.

anybody can be disaffected for any reason.

I have read that even the denizens of heaven can find they've "been there, done that. time to move on."



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27 Apr 2016, 4:33 pm

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I wonder if there are as many disaffected Buddhists as there are disaffected Catholics? something tells me not.

I acutally know a few.....Though not as vociferous as mainstream religions though and not real radicalism.

I suppose all religions/philosophies can eventually be outgrown.

anybody can be disaffected for any reason.

I have read that even the denizens of heaven can find they've "been there, done that. time to move on."

And your prime example of that would be Lucifer.


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27 Apr 2016, 4:44 pm

zkydz wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
zkydz wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
zkydz wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
I wonder if there are as many disaffected Buddhists as there are disaffected Catholics? something tells me not.

I acutally know a few.....Though not as vociferous as mainstream religions though and not real radicalism.

I suppose all religions/philosophies can eventually be outgrown.

anybody can be disaffected for any reason.

I have read that even the denizens of heaven can find they've "been there, done that. time to move on."

And your prime example of that would be Lucifer.

I thought he just wanted to take over the joint and got thrown out for it.



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27 Apr 2016, 4:49 pm

auntblabby wrote:
zkydz wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
zkydz wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
zkydz wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
I wonder if there are as many disaffected Buddhists as there are disaffected Catholics? something tells me not.

I acutally know a few.....Though not as vociferous as mainstream religions though and not real radicalism.

I suppose all religions/philosophies can eventually be outgrown.

anybody can be disaffected for any reason.

I have read that even the denizens of heaven can find they've "been there, done that. time to move on."

And your prime example of that would be Lucifer.

I thought he just wanted to take over the joint and got thrown out for it.
It was rebellion against the father figure. It is a classic example of struggle for dominance put in terms for the times.


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27 Apr 2016, 4:52 pm

auntblabby wrote:
zkydz wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
zkydz wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
I wonder if there are as many disaffected Buddhists as there are disaffected Catholics? something tells me not.

I acutally know a few.....Though not as vociferous as mainstream religions though and not real radicalism.

I suppose all religions/philosophies can eventually be outgrown.

anybody can be disaffected for any reason.

I have read that even the denizens of heaven can find they've "been there, done that. time to move on."


The Dark Side of Heaven --- Eternal boredom.


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27 Apr 2016, 4:57 pm

how does one know it is "boring"?



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27 Apr 2016, 4:58 pm

zkydz wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
zkydz wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
zkydz wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
zkydz wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
I wonder if there are as many disaffected Buddhists as there are disaffected Catholics? something tells me not.

I acutally know a few.....Though not as vociferous as mainstream religions though and not real radicalism.

I suppose all religions/philosophies can eventually be outgrown.

anybody can be disaffected for any reason.

I have read that even the denizens of heaven can find they've "been there, done that. time to move on."

And your prime example of that would be Lucifer.

I thought he just wanted to take over the joint and got thrown out for it.
It was rebellion against the father figure. It is a classic example of struggle for dominance put in terms for the times.

i'm surprised there wasn't a mrs. god in the picture somewhere ;)



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27 Apr 2016, 5:02 pm

There is a 'Mom' on the TV show Lucifer that just escaped from hell.


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27 Apr 2016, 5:13 pm

auntblabby wrote:
I wonder if there are as many disaffected Buddhists as there are disaffected Catholics? something tells me not.


Buddhism in some cases is more of a philosophy than a religion. Some don't even really believe in reincarnation, in the sense that one actually goes on to live another life.

I personally think that out of all the religions which I'm aware of, Buddhism most closely matches my own beliefs/preferences. I'm not counting atheism, because it's not a religion.

The whole idea makes a lot of sense, much more so than Christianity. Maybe that's why.



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27 Apr 2016, 5:28 pm

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I wonder if there are as many disaffected Buddhists as there are disaffected Catholics? something tells me not.


Buddhism in some cases is more of a philosophy than a religion. Some don't even really believe in reincarnation, in the sense that one actually goes on to live another life.

I personally think that out of all the religions which I'm aware of, Buddhism most closely matches my own beliefs/preferences. I'm not counting atheism, because it's not a religion.

The whole idea makes a lot of sense, much more so than Christianity. Maybe that's why.

I would disagree about Atheism not becoming it's own religion. While it does not worship a supreme being, it does worship a philosophy. And, it is getting twisted from, no god, to other people must not worship any god. It is an emergent belief system.

Just too much dogma from all sides now.

As for the Buddhist thing, I get that a lot when I open up about my personal beliefs.


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27 Apr 2016, 5:29 pm

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There is a 'Mom' on the TV show Lucifer that just escaped from hell.

never saw it but was "Mom" god's wife who cheated on him with ol' nick?



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27 Apr 2016, 5:33 pm

Ummm, if it was Mom that Lucifer was messing around with since it's his mother as they left it. It has been a great show that explores the nature of obedience, faith, how far is too far to attain a goal, ie, do we become the enemy?

And, as far as a mother goes, there has never been a mother in any criptures, agnostic or not, that has a 'mother figure'.


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27 Apr 2016, 5:34 pm

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Ummm, if it was Mom that Lucifer was messing around with since it's his mother as they left it. It has been a great show that explores the nature of obedience, faith, how far is too far to attain a goal, ie, do we become the enemy?

And, as far as a mother goes, there has never been a mother in any criptures, agnostic or not, that has a 'mother figure'.

I was hinting at an oedipal thing :oops:



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27 Apr 2016, 5:36 pm

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I would disagree about Atheism not becoming it's own religion. While it does not worship a supreme being, it does worship a philosophy. And, it is getting twisted from, no god, to other people must not worship any god. It is an emergent belief system.

Just too much dogma from all sides now.

As for the Buddhist thing, I get that a lot when I open up about my personal beliefs.


I guess it is a belief system, but I don't feel it should be a religion. How can a belief in nothing be a religion? The idea to me is silly, but you are right. Some atheists do seem to feel that no one else should believe in God.

I'm an agnostic atheist, and I generally just mind my own business.