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26 Jul 2016, 8:19 pm

It's a funny world when a former Republican president is considered fascist by the current party, isn't it... but, like the Chilcot Report stated, there were many mistakes in Iraq... Obama just withdrew on the other hand, so unless that is a mistake in itself... foreign policy has been a mistake generally...



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26 Jul 2016, 11:34 pm

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Even if he is elected (and fascists have been already been through the world at present and historically)... I really hope the International Criminal Court keeps an eye on him and prosecutes him like any African dictator if he commits similar acts of carnage... and if ex postfacto the worst (in neo-Nazi ideals) is realized then an equivalent of the Nuremberg trials should be set up once again and I hope any of his cronies who indulge in their sadism are hunted down like Nazis were in Argentina...


Doubt it. Nuclear weaponry is quite the inhibitor.


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28 Jul 2016, 9:05 am

Whose inhibitor? Trump's, who even refused to rule out nuking Europe, apparently? I guess afterwards not much will matter, but if he thinks he's not going to burn to a crisp himself even if only through retaliating mutually-assured destruction...



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28 Jul 2016, 1:09 pm

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Whose inhibitor? Trump's, who even refused to rule out nuking Europe, apparently? I guess afterwards not much will matter, but if he thinks he's not going to burn to a crisp himself even if only through retaliating mutually-assured destruction...


Any other country or the EU wanting to prosecute Trump. He can rule it in or out all he wants but if you want to prosecute him the possibility that he might nuke you in a flash of anger must be a consideration.


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30 Jul 2016, 8:14 am

I have a good hunch Hillary will be president. Love her, like her, dislike her, hate her, despise her, she's the epitome of a U.S. president. I would find it a complete sham if I was an experienced politician, married to a former president etc., ran for president and lost to... some TV presenter.



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30 Jul 2016, 12:03 pm

I think this is where we need a publicity stunt third party candidate, someone like a Sasha Baron Cohen running as Borat or or who knows - maybe Steven Colbert. That way everyone who hates both candidates actually has a middle finger to send up at the establishment.


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30 Jul 2016, 5:15 pm

techstepgenr8tion wrote:
I think this is where we need a publicity stunt third party candidate, someone like a Sasha Baron Cohen running as Borat or or who knows - maybe Steven Colbert. That way everyone who hates both candidates actually has a middle finger to send up at the establishment.


How exactly would that help? That would just be disruptive and lame in my view.

People can show they don't care about either by not voting or by being one of the idiots that write-in cartoon characters and whatever they want. Yes it's a person's right to vote for whoever they want in USA, but throwing it away on a useless choice is ignorant.

Politics in USA is very corrupt, so I honestly wouldn't be surprised if voter turnout is pretty low this year. Clinton and Trump both have huge flaws. However I still strongly feel Hillary Clinton is more suited for the job. Trump is a conman, racist, scum and a crook. Clinton has political experience, while Trump has experience of ripping people off, lying and bankrupting businesses.



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30 Jul 2016, 6:01 pm

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How exactly would that help? That would just be disruptive and lame in my view.

It would be a way to vent and it might get enough votes eventually for a serious contender for third party to replace it. You don't have to agree of course, it's just a thought.


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30 Jul 2016, 6:52 pm

techstepgenr8tion wrote:
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How exactly would that help? That would just be disruptive and lame in my view.

It would be a way to vent and it might get enough votes eventually for a serious contender for third party to replace it. You don't have to agree of course, it's just a thought.


A way to vent? Seriously..?

Also- there's really no chance for another candidate to get in the election at this point and actually have a chance. I think the only possibility would be if Clinton or Trump got arrested or something- which is very slim at this point. Even though it should be noted- Trump has numerous lawsuits against him now and somehow its considered "fine" because they will be settled (likely due to a bribe or some nonsense).

People can vent many other ways. Disrupting an election isnt the way to do it.



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30 Jul 2016, 8:10 pm

AFAIC amuurica needs the electoral quality control measure of a "NOTA" choice, which if it got a majority would automatically redo the whole election with all-new candidates.



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31 Jul 2016, 1:42 am

Earthbound wrote:
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How exactly would that help? That would just be disruptive and lame in my view.

It would be a way to vent and it might get enough votes eventually for a serious contender for third party to replace it. You don't have to agree of course, it's just a thought.


A way to vent? Seriously..?

Also- there's really no chance for another candidate to get in the election at this point and actually have a chance. I think the only possibility would be if Clinton or Trump got arrested or something- which is very slim at this point. Even though it should be noted- Trump has numerous lawsuits against him now and somehow its considered "fine" because they will be settled (likely due to a bribe or some nonsense).

People can vent many other ways. Disrupting an election isnt the way to do it.


What does it matter anyway? Disruption can be a healthy outlet for those who feel alienated.

Obviously it is down to Trump and Clinton so any vote for a third party is useless at this point. The major hope of Bernie Bros is to create enough stink and noise to get people to consider a third party candidate. The way democracy works is mob mentality. Mobs influence votes. So when a whole bunch of Bernie Bros say they will never endorse Hillary or a bunch of NEVER TRUMp people band together, mathematically this might actually end up being statistically significant if not in the short term at least in the term.

However, I'm not a fan of mobs or mob mentality. But the only way to change things with the current democracy is mass influence through mobs. And that is why these movements exist.

I bet you most Bernie fans will either be supporting Clinton in the end or not voting. My question is, why not just vote for Bernie? Well, the answer is obvious, a vote for Bernie means nothing unless there is a countrywide mob movement to elect him over Hilary. And even then not everyone's going to go along.

I think it's good for the future of the country though for people to simply vote for who they want. In the long term.



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03 Aug 2016, 7:11 am

Donald Trump will be attending a rally in my hometown today. Oh Boy :(
Hopefully it will be (relatively) uneventful.

It may not be fair to say that Trump causes violence & mayhem, or that he encourages violence & mayhem, but the fact is that he attracts violence & mayhem. Again just like Hitler. I wonder if he would require Muslims to sew crescents on their clothing or hang signs on their shops to pave the way for another Kristallnacht.


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03 Aug 2016, 9:08 am

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Donald Trump will be attending a rally in my hometown today. Oh Boy :(
Hopefully it will be (relatively) uneventful.

It may not be fair to say that Trump causes violence & mayhem, or that he encourages violence & mayhem, but the fact is that he attracts violence & mayhem. Again just like Hitler. I wonder if he would require Muslims to sew crescents on their clothing or hang signs on their shops to pave the way for another Kristallnacht.


How about you actually go to the event and judge it for yourself?

The only people that cause trouble and are violent at these events are the George Soros-paid agitators, Trump really doesn't talk that much about the crap the media tries smear him with.

What you are saying about Muslims there is absolutely ridiculous, they are not persecuted at all in this country and the very idea of Trump restricting immigration has the globalists trying whip up the useful idiots into some sort of moral panic but do know that they do not care about Muslims or racism at all but rather at destroying the cultural/social fabric of Western Civilization and to ensure the domination of multinational corporate fascism thru mass immigration.



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03 Aug 2016, 9:15 am

Muslims are not actively persecuted by the government, by and large.

But they are the victims of hate crimes sometimes.

Once in a while, somebody with a common Arabic name will be refused entry into an airplane because his/her name is on a "no-fly" list.



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03 Aug 2016, 9:23 am

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Muslims are not actively persecuted by the government, by and large.

But they are the victims of hate crimes sometimes.

Once in a while, somebody with a common Arabic name will be refused entry into an airplane because his/her name is on a "no-fly" list.
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shadowboxer wrote:
Donald Trump will be attending a rally in my hometown today. Oh Boy :(
Hopefully it will be (relatively) uneventful.

It may not be fair to say that Trump causes violence & mayhem, or that he encourages violence & mayhem, but the fact is that he attracts violence & mayhem. Again just like Hitler. I wonder if he would require Muslims to sew crescents on their clothing or hang signs on their shops to pave the way for another Kristallnacht.


How about you actually go to the event and judge it for yourself?

The only people that cause trouble and are violent at these events are the George Soros-paid agitators, Trump really doesn't talk that much about the crap the media tries smear him with.

What you are saying about Muslims there is absolutely ridiculous, they are not persecuted at all in this country and the very idea of Trump restricting immigration has the globalists trying whip up the useful idiots into some sort of moral panic but do know that they do not care about Muslims or racism at all but rather at destroying the cultural/social fabric of Western Civilization and to ensure the domination of multinational corporate fascism thru mass immigration.


I am aware that Muslims are not being persecuted--at least not by the government.
My concern is what might conceivably happen if Trump becomes president. This is not unprecedented. The US did intern Japanese Americans (most of whom were born here) during WWII. Oddly enough they did not intern German-Americans, or Italian-Americans, but they were not obvious targets 8O


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03 Aug 2016, 9:31 am

I don't think entities other than the Executive Branch would allow Trump to implement any idea pertaining to the "internment" of Muslims.

This would be seen, even by the most "radical" Republican, as absurd beyond words.