If there was really a God, bad things wouldn't happen.

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Quick anecdote.
A priest is sitting in a plane, reading, when the man next to him says "I don't believe in your God!". The priest asks the man " Who do you think I believe?". The man describes "God". The priest says " It seems I don't believe in God either".

It seemed relevant.

If you read the old testament then god didn't believe much in humanity either

Yes, I believe that is a fact since humanity was never intended to be self-directed or self-reliant.


Definitely. There is no reason at all to believe in any god that either is or has been as many people perceive one, and even our Maker would likely agree!

if there was no god, nothing would ever have happened

Supposedly our world became imperfect when man sinned. When Adam and Eve ate the forbidden fruit. Then why do children have to get cancer just because man sinned? I can understand human evil. Why God would let humans do bad things to humans. I even understand earthquakes and tornadoes, impersonal things that harm or kill. In order to have a planet orbiting a sun you have to have those dangers. Those "Acts of God." But couldn't god control the degree to which certain things happen. If a child is born with a deadly genetic abnormality couldn't he fix it? And wouldn't that be the evidence that some unbelievers seek?

I do not claim to have any final answer that will/could/should satisfy everyone, but I think that ties to something (here acknowledged as disturbing to many) that we can see in Numbers 14:18:
"...slow to anger and abundant in lovingkindness, forgiving iniquity and transgression; but He will by no means clear the guilty, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and the fourth generations."

It is not that I am pre-damned and required to "pay the price" for my birth father's wrong-doings, short-comings or whatever, but that babies can be affected even prior to birth* when parents are not doing the things required for all to be well.
*note: Birth is reproduction, not creation. Hence, and imperfect birth is not an imperfect creation.


Our Maker's thoughts, motives and intentions behind His own answer to that question are unknown to me, but it seems He has made us all aware we should not do that and has made us aware of a how we *should* live and has invited and welcomed us to do so. And then beyond even that, you might notice He has never allowed His people chosen to represent Him before the entire world to ever be removed from the face of the earth.


A miracle is something that cannot be explained apart from Divine intervention, and miracles do happen. However, our Maker seems to refuse to perform like some kind of trick pony in order to impress people where He already has the entirety of creation bearing witness of Him...

“Then, as [the Son of the Living Elohim] was now drawing near the descent of the Mount of Olives, the whole multitude of the disciples began to rejoice and praise 'God' with a loud voice for all the mighty works they had seen, saying: ‘Blessed is the King who comes in the name of the Lord! Peace in heaven and glory in the highest!’
“And some of the Pharisees called to Him from the crowd, ‘Teacher, rebuke Your disciples.’
“But He answered and said to them, ‘I tell you that if these should keep silent, the stones would immediately cry out.’” (Luke 19:37-40)

Yes, IMO, God could (and, HAS) control the degree to which certain things happen, like fixing a child's genetic abnormality----but, no, it wouldn't be the evidence that non-believers seek, because they would attribute it to something else, and HAVE; namely, science.

Did what?

Why did He/She/It allegedly "make human beings and so many other things in the world so imperfect?"

The problem with that kind of question, however, is that it presumes human beings are qualified and authorized for judging the handiwork of our Maker and/or that humans could properly set the standard and then rightly judge "God" accordingly.

WTF are you talking about?
According the Bible God himself declared humans to be flawed. Thats the whole premise of Christianity.

Not at the time of creation.

Doesnt matter.

Humans later proved to be imperfect by God's standards (despite the fact that God made humans), and he wiped them out with Noah's flood. And then had to send us his son to redeem us because he continued to judge as being so darnned imperfect.

It mattered to the person asking the question.

Right and wrong is not defined in nature or physics or anything but our own heads.
There is no universal right and wrong.

Says who, and where is the proof?

What person? Asking what question?