Why Christianity is so Persistant

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23 Mar 2006, 4:02 pm

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I don't really understand how you could place Christianty with the other worldly religions. Christianty is not in the same listings. All the rest are just cults. They aren't going to get you anywhere. I piety you.

How do you realy know which one is truely right maybe one of these "cults" is or mayby Norse Mythology got it right. Chistianity has a bible the other relegions have scared texted too why does one have to be the only right one?

Yeah yeah. Whatever. All this other info is not going to change the way I believe. I'll continue on fighting until anyone of you gives in.

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23 Mar 2006, 4:30 pm

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Yeah yeah. Whatever. All this other info is not going to change the way I believe. I'll continue on fighting until anyone of you gives in.

I don't think your aggressive refusal to even attempt a cogent rebuttal of opposing arguments will convince any of us heathen sorts. Instead, you'll be consigned to the wasteheap of the internet along with happeh and be ignored or used as a source of entertainment. If you want us to recognise the truth of Christianity, please provide us with a convincing argument, which doesn't rely on the circular logic of "Christianity is true and all other religions are cults, therefore Christianity is true and all other religions are cults".

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23 Mar 2006, 4:44 pm

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Thank you Keeno. I thought I was fighting a losing battle alone.

Only too happy to help, and from what I've seen so far I think this board needs me and you around huh?

Yeah, no community is complete without the resident religious nutters. :lol:

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23 Mar 2006, 8:19 pm

I've always found Scots to be the most godless nation of people on earth.

In terms of predestination (Calvinism/Presbyterianism), you would not be predestined to be believers, so there's no point in persuading you. No one wants you in the club, especially not God.

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23 Mar 2006, 8:31 pm

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I've always found Scots to be the most godless nation of people on earth.

Really? It varies depending on where in Scotland you're talking about. Glasgow is far less religious than the Western Isles.

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23 Mar 2006, 8:42 pm

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Morlock wrote:

-The Carrot: Eternal reward for following it.
-The Stick: Eternal punishment for those who do not follow. Some people convert just for "fire insureance" (safety from Hell) even if they're skeptical about the rest of it.
Sense of Urgency: Your decision must be made NOW because you might die tomorrow! You cannot wait to die and then see if there is an afterlife. This ensures the church can influence you within your lifetime.
-Faith: The Bible states that you cannot prove or disprove the existance of God (though some try to). This ensures that you cannot argue a christian out of his belief.
-The Will of God: God, being an entity of infinite power, created morality, and thus is beyond all moral judgement by mortals. When good things happen, believers pray to God to thank Him. When bad things happen, they pray to God thanking Him that they were not worse.
-Pity for Nonbelievers: Believers feel sorry for the poor damned atheists and attempt and pray to bring him/her into the fold.
-Satan: this is a convenient scapegoat for all wrong things, since God in His infinite wisdom allowed Satan to influence stuff and people here.

This is not complete, but as far as I can tell Christianity is a belief defended on all fronts. Once it burrows into a person's psyche, there is not return. If any of this seems contradictory its because what the Bible says and what believers say often do contradict.

it's not the religion that's persistant...it's the sheep that are intent on following.

which is why i love the whole shepherd over the flock analogy with christians....cause they are sheep (as well as muslims, buddhists, scientologists, and anyone else who believes in a deity).

/equal oppertunity offender
//i'm gonna rot in hell anyways and be butt-raped, right?
///peace to everyone no matter if you like to play pretend or not.

christianity is a cult too. all religions are cults.

christianity isn't going to get you anywhere other than having intolerance and hatred for others who don't follow the BS rules that the cult has brainwashed you into believing.

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23 Mar 2006, 8:44 pm

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Yeah yeah. Whatever. All this other info is not going to change the way I believe. I'll continue on fighting until anyone of you gives in.

hahahaha. and this is why christianity and other religions persist. because they don't concern themselves with facts, just with what they've either been brainwashed to believe or what they choose to believe.

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23 Mar 2006, 10:14 pm

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Yeah yeah. Whatever. All this other info is not going to change the way I believe. I'll continue on fighting until anyone of you gives in.

I don't give in so easy, All hail Thor

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24 Mar 2006, 7:35 am

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Actually Scotland has an official state religion, Presbyterianism and also has a high Catholic population, we are far behind Australia in that respect, you give all religions equal status and are officially a godless nation. We are now catching up and a lot of us refuse to believe in fairy stories so well done to your nation, if not you, specifically.

Strictly speaking, we should all grow up and admit we are all godless until proven otherwise as there is no god. It's about time we took responsibility for our actions and stop kidding ourselves on about this , just because it makes for a happy ending that we end up fairies in the sky.

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24 Mar 2006, 9:01 am

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Thank you Keeno. I thought I was fighting a losing battle alone.

Only too happy to help, and from what I've seen so far I think this board needs me and you around huh?

Yeah, no community is complete without the resident religious nutters. :lol:

You talking about me? Oh I get now we're going to name call. How really childish that is. What do you expect me to do to that sort of reply? I don't see where you can prejudge us the way we believe. Actually I'm a really silent person with a short fuse on my temper. I'm not proud of the things I say here actually I really don't care one bit about you sinners. Maybe burning in hell what you die is what you need. There always have to be low lifes like you all out in the world that no one really cares about. I freaking piety you and maybe even I'll spit in your face! Don't anyone continue this freaking discussion. I think we did enough harm to each other or to me don't you think? Don't you think I should get some peace and quite while not having to worry about breaking everyones panes of glass? I know this is a public forum but would you leave me the hell alone. I don't want anyone backstabbing me either. Take care, not!

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24 Mar 2006, 10:05 am

KEEP IT CIVIL FOLKS.

Remember, our policy is argue against the other person's position, but NO insults and personal attacks

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24 Mar 2006, 11:20 am

AbominableSnoCone wrote:

KEEP IT CIVIL FOLKS.

Remember, our policy is argue against the other person's position, but NO insults and personal attacks

I know. All I wanted to do was tell them how I believe not to be bullied.
Anyway he's right no personal attacks or insults to me!

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24 Mar 2006, 11:49 am

TigerFire wrote:

AbominableSnoCone wrote:

KEEP IT CIVIL FOLKS.

Remember, our policy is argue against the other person's position, but NO insults and personal attacks

I know. All I wanted to do was tell them how I believe not to be bullied.
Anyway he's right no personal attacks or insults to me!

It was a general reminder. If I felt one person was more at fault then the other that person would have gotten a private warning or advisory. I will now be watching this thread closely. People have been coming closer and closer to crossing the line. If someone does come to the line they will get an advisory. If someone crosses the line they will get a warning. Use common sense and be practical.

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24 Mar 2006, 12:00 pm

AbominableSnoCone wrote:

TigerFire wrote:

AbominableSnoCone wrote:

KEEP IT CIVIL FOLKS.

Remember, our policy is argue against the other person's position, but NO insults and personal attacks

I know. All I wanted to do was tell them how I believe not to be bullied.
Anyway he's right no personal attacks or insults to me!

Yes I'll keep that in mind and I'll pay really careful attention to my words when I lose my temper. Thanks and take care.

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24 Mar 2006, 1:57 pm

i wonder why you got all defensive when i mentioned "religious nutters", Tigerfire. Did i hit a raw nerve?If i wer a christian then id be nice to make sure i got into heaven but i dont really believe that most religious people believe in it deep down. It's just an outlet for them to express their mental illness in a more 'acceptable' way.

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24 Mar 2006, 2:12 pm

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i'm sure most religious people don't appreciate being called "nutters" or any such implication that their mental stability is anything but. don't get why you're approaching this the way you are....afterall, there's so many better routes to dissent against religion than that.

i agree with you that most religious people don't believe it deep down, though. i mean if they did, they'd want to imitate jesus, not the hateful "leaders" of the congregation who seek to simply control people, define what is evil, and encouraging intolerance and inequality for homosexuals.

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