What opinions are mandatory for a feminist?
How can it be a strawman when i see these opinions everywhere. With yout logic it is strawman that trump supporters hate islam. The feminists i talk about is left and liberal feminists btw, ofcourse not all of them are the same but not all trump supporters are the same either. However there is mainstream opinions among all Groups, and left liberal feminists have those opinions generelly.
That's a loud and vocal minority. Not all of us get our political views from Tumblr and Buzzfeed. And, for the record, I'm a leftist and liberal intersectional feminist. There are many of us who can't stand how far some people go with identity politics and political correctness and how toxic they can get, while still disagreeing with conservative ideas and finding them appalling. And I'm not the only feminist in my leftwing friend circle who shares my opinions. And I don't hate men. My best friend is a guy and we don't even agree about everything. Again... You are creating straw feminists, based on some tumblr nonsense and making it out like we are all misandrist white haters. By that logic, I could say that all conservatives are horrible people based on something some alt right person said on 4chan, when I know that some conservatives are okay people, just a bit misguided.
lets talk about religion. left feminists do claim that only christianity is anti-gay and anti-women.
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/author/emily-mccombs
Hmmmmm. This one's a real head scratcher. Let's look at the possibilities.
Possibility 1 She's actually planning to kill all men
Possibility 2 She was joking
Which of these two possibilities is more likely? I'll give you three guesses.
I will dare you to grant me the last guess because License To Kill, seems too extreme. Still, her articles have blown up big time since the Weinstein scandal reports, and her attitudes to raising children are pro fem but she has valid points; it's just a shame most of her tweets are protected from the steadily growing influx of male journalists and misogynist's.. to lead the solidifying certifiable, and testifying rumours further astray..
- Christianity is the only religion that is homophobic, anti-women and violent.
- that white men are the only ones who had slaves.
- that white men and Christians are not and have never been oppressed or experienced racism.
- that it is white men's fault that non-white males rapes women.
- that all white men are bad people
- that white men must disappear, this will happen via mass immigration, which will lead to white becoming a small minority and eventually after hundreds of years disappear.
- that white men rule the whole world, all countries, all cities, all rich are white men.
- that white men have anti-women views, racism, homophobia in the blood / DNA
Did i miss something?
time to feminists to change their views? feminists movement is very radical for beliving in this stuff.
There aren't any really. There are various sub groups and they don't get along.
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1st wave
2nd wave
3rd wave
now 4th wave
lib fems
rad fems
trans exclusionary feminists
fem fems.
Intersectional fems.
Whatever other ones and then some combination of the above as well.
I'm not involved with these groups. I just observed them recently and they seem to be at war with each other. For example, rad fems seem to hate lib fems and women who don't reject gender stereotypes they consider exploitative patriarchal institutions.
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1st wave
2nd wave
3rd wave
now 4th wave
lib fems
rad fems
trans exclusionary feminists
fem fems.
Intersectional fems.
Whatever other ones and then some combination of the above as well.
I'm not involved with these groups. I just observed them recently and they seem to be at war with each other. For example, rad fems seem to hate lib fems and women who don't reject gender stereotypes they consider exploitative patriarchal institutions.
This is what happens with the zero sum game if you are not 100 percent right you are evil thinking that predominates today. Everybody is getting hurt in some way because of this.
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I couldn't have portrayed a more accurate clinical diagnostic test myself. Self rebranding women are women of the times to stand out and get s**t on all the time and well the liberal followers just follow any institutional code of conduct because it seems to suit the wider causes that they believe LGBTS stand for today.
I myself am just content with my own opposite attracts sexuality, I don't need a famous Rembrandt exercise or Putin ethnical cleansing ritual, bypassing people in every day life as to ignore the wider phenomenon, that is a worldly community.
What then conspires is when different class genders rally against one another on, or around generally the same topic so, just because somebody says its okay to have same sex partners raising surrogate offspring for example or, forcing the Pope of Rome to legalise and overturn the old prophecies, doesn't make it any less appealing or scandalous and pro libertarian, when someone doesn't have to overdose to go out of their way to marry someone for love, whatever sex they know inside to be. These people who brag about it, are probably in effect a lot happier about voicing their own ideals on the world, than people who are in legally binding contracts and are so sick of each other, they resort to violence murder or get incarcerated for being less financially constructive.
Whatever the reasons for this rationale is, I don't invite a less secure all gender audience to applaud my ways and be on the 'right side of humanity' forced at any one cost. No judge over rules a court based solely on trans sex minority discrimination, because there's also a code of conduct in force at work too which I believe are there for a good reason, maybe they will invent an ethnic gender rights manual too, which the ECL have tried to over rule and will have failed in our Parliamentary democratic system, disability discrimination is more of a problem than any of this stuff anyway as it primarily targets the genetic human bio code and not the implanted device that many artificially infiltrate to register themselves to be seen an the all rounder in modelling or practising sports commentary.
Also, this thread should be moved to the Women's because not enough females are being portrayed accurately in the media and wider sphere. And more should be said and done about it. Women can and will stand up for themselves, they have already created the Plato, now its time to cut the cake and snow blow Frosty back to Greenland.
1st wave
2nd wave
3rd wave
now 4th wave
lib fems
rad fems
trans exclusionary feminists
fem fems.
Intersectional fems.
Whatever other ones and then some combination of the above as well.
I'm not involved with these groups. I just observed them recently and they seem to be at war with each other. For example, rad fems seem to hate lib fems and women who don't reject gender stereotypes they consider exploitative patriarchal institutions.
This is what happens with the zero sum game if you are not 100 percent right you are evil thinking that predominates today. Everybody is getting hurt in some way because of this.
Indeed. I of course agree with feminism in it's initial form as I know it to be....the procurement of equal rights for women, but I don't like omnibusing ideologies.
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So, let me get this straight. The rad fems think it's bad for women to act feminine but the lib fems think it's ok. Am I right?
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So, let me get this straight. The rad fems think it's bad for women to act feminine but the lib fems think it's ok. Am I right?
As far as I can tell, in the rad fem bunch you will find women who...
Do not accept transgenderism.
Are anti-pornography and prostitution.
And reject anything women do that they see as manifestation of patriarchal oppression over women.....for example, wear makeup, shave their legs, get cosmetic surgery.
Believe muslim women should not be permitted to veil.
A good bit of them also hate men.
As far as I can tell, in the lib fem bunch, you will find women who...
Accept transgenderism.
Are "sex positive" in that they believe that a woman can make an informed, uncoerced choice to be an adult film star or prostitute.
Basically believe a woman should be as feminine or masculine as she wants.
And typically aren't man haters.
Being a total b*tch is one of them. Honestly, the women in ''power'' I have dealt with who declared themselves ''feminists'' have been the most abusive monsters I have ever met. And I am female myself. They are only about (as I said in another thread) helping other women of their seem social class and education.
They don't give an f*** about women in poverty or in other difficult positions. There are many of these types of women social work positions who actually try to ''use'' and control these poor women in order to make more money for themselves.
We were involved with the Children's Aid (Canadian CPS) for years when I was a girl (mostly because of my social problems and our low income). And I was removed from my home multiple times because of power tripping feminist social workers that wanted to write themselves a bigger check (there is cash incentive to put children in foster care). Dealing with them was a nightmare, I remember when they came over to our house when I was a teenager for bi-weekly ''check ups'' and having to try to appease them. Ridiculous.
They don't give an f*** about women in poverty or in other difficult positions. There are many of these types of women social work positions who actually try to ''use'' and control these poor women in order to make more money for themselves.
We were involved with the Children's Aid (Canadian CPS) for years when I was a girl (mostly because of my social problems and our low income). And I was removed from my home multiple times because of power tripping feminist social workers that wanted to write themselves a bigger check (there is cash incentive to put children in foster care). Dealing with them was a nightmare, I remember when they came over to our house when I was a teenager for bi-weekly ''check ups'' and having to try to appease them. Ridiculous.
This is why I'm genuinely scared of social workers. Adding judgement and fear of tearing apart my family to all the toil. Luckily, in Poland you don't attract their attention if you don't ask for social support.
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They don't give an f*** about women in poverty or in other difficult positions. There are many of these types of women social work positions who actually try to ''use'' and control these poor women in order to make more money for themselves.
We were involved with the Children's Aid (Canadian CPS) for years when I was a girl (mostly because of my social problems and our low income). And I was removed from my home multiple times because of power tripping feminist social workers that wanted to write themselves a bigger check (there is cash incentive to put children in foster care). Dealing with them was a nightmare, I remember when they came over to our house when I was a teenager for bi-weekly ''check ups'' and having to try to appease them. Ridiculous.
This is why I'm genuinely scared of social workers. Adding judgement and fear of tearing apart my family to all the toil. Luckily, in Poland you don't attract their attention if you don't ask for social support.
My young cousin was taken from her parents and put into foster care for similar reasons. The elderly foster parents were kind people but since they were in their late 70s they didn't really have the energy to look after a toddler.
After two years the girl was returned to her mother - on the condition that the father isn't present, even though neither or mother or father had ever harmed in the slightest.
So she's been removed from a middle-class couple and returned to her now lower-class mother (following their forced separation). I know from experience that growing up with a single parent has disadvantages.
Her father is something of an intellectual, he would have greatly helped in her education, had he been permitted to remain in the family.
The mother (my aunt) was quite appalled that she was forced to permanently separate from her husband against her will. Social workers always think they know what people need better than the people know themselves.
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They don't give an f*** about women in poverty or in other difficult positions. There are many of these types of women social work positions who actually try to ''use'' and control these poor women in order to make more money for themselves.
We were involved with the Children's Aid (Canadian CPS) for years when I was a girl (mostly because of my social problems and our low income). And I was removed from my home multiple times because of power tripping feminist social workers that wanted to write themselves a bigger check (there is cash incentive to put children in foster care). Dealing with them was a nightmare, I remember when they came over to our house when I was a teenager for bi-weekly ''check ups'' and having to try to appease them. Ridiculous.
There are many things I like about Canada (for example, socialized health care) but it's always struck me as somewhat frightful how the Canadian government can decide to take away someone's children on a whim. For example, Lori and George (formerly Reba who was formerly Dori) Schappell, who are conjoined twins, coinjoined at the head, and were given a false diagnosis of mentally ret*d so the government could wrongfully remove them from their parents and place them in an institution, which the government thought would be better for them. They had to contest the mentally ret*d diagnosis so they could gain their freedom and go to college.