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10 Jan 2020, 3:36 pm

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------------WHOAAA, let's deconstruct i.e., break-down the perspectives of Postmodernism to shorter written descriptions!------------

Any perspectives on Postmodern literature (LINK)?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postmodern_literature

Ok, but it’s difficult to discuss aesthetics and philosophy as it relates to postmodernism without analysis, and I really am a trained expert in musical analysis. Hallmarks of postmodernity are inclusion, multiculturalism, pastiche, subjectivism, and irony. It is unashamedly logically incoherent, morally bankrupt, and lacking in material value. At this point in history it’s dead and useless. So I think all that’s left is to offer critique from a more relevant perspective, lick our wounds, and commit ourselves to avoid repeating the mistakes of PoMo.

You can’t get more opposed to PoMo than with Objectivism, so I prefer critiquing PoMo through the lens of open Objectivism.


Yes, the debates, analysis, etc. on postmodernism are endless. To focus on the analysis of postmodern literature, enclosed is a LINK to the New Yorker Magazine story (a lenghty (yet manageable) article) to read:

'John Williams and the Canon That Might Have Been-- A quarter century after his death, his austere, unflashy masterpiece was acclaimed a “perfect novel.” Does it belong to a larger lineage of neglected modern literature?'

LINK: https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019 ... -have-been

RELATED: Author Kurt Vonnegut's 1970s works, 'Slaughterhouse Five', 'Breakfast of Champions', and 1998 work 'Timequake' are perhaps rare examples of postmodernism; as Vonnegut's works are not too difficult to understand.


ADDENDUM: LINK on story discussing Postmodernism, John Williams, and Kurt Vonnegut enclosed (moderate-length read...........which is certainly valued in an environment of lengthy interpretations of Postmodernism).

Kurt Vonnegut's works gained popularity - partially on account of Vonnegut's use of postmodernism being understandable to a good-sized readership.

A Good Writer is Hard to Find by Hannah Niemeier:
A review of The Man Who Wrote the Perfect Novel: John Williams, Stoner, and the Writing Life by Charles J. Shields

(LINK) https://newcriterion.com/issues/2019/6/ ... rd-to-find



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04 Apr 2020, 4:16 pm

Might postmodernism esp. in literature & film make a comeback as a result of the pandemic?



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04 Apr 2020, 9:33 pm

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Might postmodernism esp. in literature & film make a comeback as a result of the pandemic?


what do you mean comeback? Watching stranger things, bladerunner 2049, altered Carbon, Tiger King, rick and morty or the hyperreal simulations and simulacra in photorealisticly rendered disney remakes.... The awful thing about postmodernism is that once you're in it, any artefact from the past looks contingent, subjective and pastiche.


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05 Apr 2020, 12:40 pm

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Might postmodernism esp. in literature & film make a comeback as a result of the pandemic?


what do you mean comeback? Watching stranger things, bladerunner 2049, altered Carbon, Tiger King, rick and morty or the hyperreal simulations and simulacra in photorealisticly rendered disney remakes.... The awful thing about postmodernism is that once you're in it, any artefact from the past looks contingent, subjective and pastiche.


A comeback meaning that postmodern themed books, and films might once-again emerge-out of an overlooked postmodern genre, and yield best-sellers, and popular (or at least cult-classic) movies.

For example, author Kurt Vonnegut's books gained popularity in the 1970s. Over the past few decades, a rare few films applying postmodern themes experienced some degrees of popularity.



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07 Apr 2020, 10:30 am

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Might postmodernism esp. in literature & film make a comeback as a result of the pandemic?


what do you mean comeback? Watching stranger things, bladerunner 2049, altered Carbon, Tiger King, rick and morty or the hyperreal simulations and simulacra in photorealisticly rendered disney remakes.... The awful thing about postmodernism is that once you're in it, any artefact from the past looks contingent, subjective and pastiche.


A comeback meaning that postmodern themed books, and films might once-again emerge-out of an overlooked postmodern genre, and yield best-sellers, and popular (or at least cult-classic) movies.

For example, author Kurt Vonnegut's books gained popularity in the 1970s. Over the past few decades, a rare few films applying postmodern themes experienced some degrees of popularity.


Except all of Netflix. "Retro" is a postmodern thing. ... All of Marvel. (Alternate realities in which superheroes exist?... Yes, it's like the old myths, except now it's decidedly not real, whereas the old myths were meant structure reality in a religiois way). And then there's the fact that reality itself has turned jnto a postmodern-themed craze. Biff is president of the US, nothing is true and everything is possible. There's no need to make films about virtual realities, there's oculus headsets. And like with so many visions of the future, they're a lot more banal when they become reality.
Neyromancer describes the current state of the internet pretty well - except now it's the internet and we live parts of our lives there. Reality on the other hand is withering away.
South park is a documentary series now, and genderfluidity is becoming socially acceptable. It's impossible to tell whether your bank clerk is advising you or trying to rob you.
Dead musicians are being recreated, animated and are giving concerts again, and computers are making legal decisions, the reasoning behind which is beyond human reasoning abilities.... What's lacking is the badass aesthetics, that's all.

Postmodernism is unlikely to return in literature, because literature is unlikely to return.


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07 Apr 2020, 9:10 pm

The 2019 film, 'Once Upon A Time in Hollywood' received a few mentions of having post-modern, and meta-narrative structures.

Personally, I grew-up in Los Angeles, at a time when memories of the year 1969 were still fresh. After becoming quite familiar with some of the locations, and styles at the time in the film, I further sensed post-modern, & meta-narrative views along with irony, and what may be described as a feeling of "deja-vu in reverse."



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10 Apr 2020, 1:52 pm

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Might postmodernism esp. in literature & film make a comeback as a result of the pandemic?


Just located: 'POSTMODERN SOCIETY AND COVID-19 PANDEMIC: OLD, NEW AND SCARY'
https://pressto.amu.edu.pl/index.php/sr ... view/22504



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21 Apr 2020, 4:06 pm

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Might postmodernism esp. in literature & film make a comeback as a result of the pandemic?


Just located: 'POSTMODERN SOCIETY AND COVID-19 PANDEMIC: OLD, NEW AND SCARY'
https://pressto.amu.edu.pl/index.php/sr ... view/22504


ADDENDUM:

The Postmodern Condition is Empowering in Times of Social Distancing:
https://dailycampus.com/stories/2020/3/ ... distancing



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21 Apr 2020, 7:25 pm

JustFoundHere wrote:
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Might postmodernism esp. in literature & film make a comeback as a result of the pandemic?


Just located: 'POSTMODERN SOCIETY AND COVID-19 PANDEMIC: OLD, NEW AND SCARY'
https://pressto.amu.edu.pl/index.php/sr ... view/22504


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ADDENDUM:

The Postmodern Condition is Empowering in Times of Social Distancing:
https://dailycampus.com/stories/2020/3/ ... distancing


I think that one was the result of a bet on whether it's possible to use the word "postmodern" in every sentence.


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26 Apr 2020, 4:44 pm

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JustFoundHere wrote:
JustFoundHere wrote:
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Might postmodernism esp. in literature & film make a comeback as a result of the pandemic?


Just located: 'POSTMODERN SOCIETY AND COVID-19 PANDEMIC: OLD, NEW AND SCARY'
https://pressto.amu.edu.pl/index.php/sr ... view/22504


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ADDENDUM:

The Postmodern Condition is Empowering in Times of Social Distancing:
https://dailycampus.com/stories/2020/3/ ... distancing


I think that one was the result of a bet on whether it's possible to use the word "postmodern" in every sentence.


EXCERPT from 'The Postmodern Condition is Empowering in Times of Social Distancing' story, 'Our attachment to our phones during social distancing exemplify postmodernism.' (Our attachments to our desktops, and laptops (computers for more in-depth projects) exemplifies postmodernism).