20 Nov 2020, 5:41 pm
auntblabby wrote:
they compare it stalinism because they are bloodymindedly against relieving the misery of the working class. just like magas calling people like me a nazi, not because it makes any sense at all but just as a crude club against me and mine.
They call you a "Nazi"?
I would have thought they would have called you a "left-wing fascist".
20 Nov 2020, 5:45 pm
cberg wrote:
We live in a country where people are being killed for dissident views on this subject. Why are you in denial of this fact?
This is not a "dog whistle", it is a fact that extreme right is extremely violent.
This is not a "dog whistle", it is a fact that extreme right is extremely violent.
Some, but then some left-wing extremists are, too.
I find it interesting that people can't accept the fact that there are dickwads on both sides of the political divide.
It sounds like confirmation bias, to me.
Which suggest partisanship/groupthink.
20 Nov 2020, 5:47 pm
Can you exemplify me any left wing dickwads brandishing AR-15 rifles at conservatives? 
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20 Nov 2020, 5:52 pm
Pepe wrote:
cberg wrote:
We live in a country where people are being killed for dissident views on this subject. Why are you in denial of this fact?
This is not a "dog whistle", it is a fact that extreme right is extremely violent.
This is not a "dog whistle", it is a fact that extreme right is extremely violent.
Some, but then some left-wing extremists are, too.
I find it interesting that people can't accept the fact that there are dickwads on both sides of the political divide.
It sounds like confirmation bias, to me.
Which suggest partisanship/groupthink.
Groupthink= an idea or opinion many people come up with on their own.
20 Nov 2020, 6:00 pm
cberg wrote:
If you don't want me to think that you are a neonazi, don't act insulted by the assertion that those people are a problem. It's very simple. I'm not here to generalize you, I'm telling you what is happening in this country.
You tend to generalise that all republicans have an affinity with nazi/fascist philosophies.
I tend to think it is more a case of Capitalism Vs Socialism.
cberg wrote:
There are a LOT of reluctant yet complacent Republicans here. They rolled over & voted in the interest of neonazis to consolidate power for their side.
In your opinion.
Many Republicans would be voting for economic growth and trade equality, but you are hyperfocused on nazi ideology, presumably to suit a narrative.
cberg wrote:
Saying otherwise would be a lie.
IYO.
I think I am more in touch with actuality.
cberg wrote:
Trump courted votes from these people directly. In no uncertain terms are Republicans now unofficially associated with neonazis.
How are they "Officially associate with neo-nazis"?
Because you say so?
Since when did you become the designation police.
Some Amerikans are neo-nazis. But they would be few in number.
Give me valid stats to prove me wrong, simples.
Most Republicans are just regular people trying to make the best out of their lives.
There is no question of that, in my mind.
cberg wrote:
Downplaying the seriousness of this scenario is a PROBLEM.
Becoming hysterical serves no good for anyone.
20 Nov 2020, 6:03 pm
League_Girl wrote:
Pepe wrote:
cberg wrote:
We live in a country where people are being killed for dissident views on this subject. Why are you in denial of this fact?
This is not a "dog whistle", it is a fact that extreme right is extremely violent.
This is not a "dog whistle", it is a fact that extreme right is extremely violent.
Some, but then some left-wing extremists are, too.
I find it interesting that people can't accept the fact that there are dickwads on both sides of the political divide.
It sounds like confirmation bias, to me.
Which suggest partisanship/groupthink.
Groupthink= an idea or opinion many people come up with on their own.
I don't mind playing.
Quote:
Groupthink is a psychological phenomenon that occurs within a group of people in which the desire for harmony or conformity in the group results in an irrational or dysfunctional decision-making outcome. Cohesiveness, or the desire for cohesiveness, in a group may produce a tendency among its members to agree at all costs.[1] This causes the group to minimize conflict and reach a consensus decision without critical evaluation.[2][3]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groupthink
20 Nov 2020, 6:06 pm
cberg wrote:
Can you exemplify me any left wing dickwads brandishing AR-15 rifles at conservatives?
When antifa took over a section of the city, and told reporters to move on, they had automatic rifles.
Factual evidence, on video record.
20 Nov 2020, 6:19 pm
Pepe wrote:
League_Girl wrote:
Pepe wrote:
cberg wrote:
We live in a country where people are being killed for dissident views on this subject. Why are you in denial of this fact?
This is not a "dog whistle", it is a fact that extreme right is extremely violent.
This is not a "dog whistle", it is a fact that extreme right is extremely violent.
Some, but then some left-wing extremists are, too.
I find it interesting that people can't accept the fact that there are dickwads on both sides of the political divide.
It sounds like confirmation bias, to me.
Which suggest partisanship/groupthink.
Groupthink= an idea or opinion many people come up with on their own.
I don't mind playing.
Quote:
Groupthink is a psychological phenomenon that occurs within a group of people in which the desire for harmony or conformity in the group results in an irrational or dysfunctional decision-making outcome. Cohesiveness, or the desire for cohesiveness, in a group may produce a tendency among its members to agree at all costs.[1] This causes the group to minimize conflict and reach a consensus decision without critical evaluation.[2][3]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groupthink
Okay, I hope you don't go accusing others of group thinking then just because they have an opinion many people happen to share and you seem to think that just because you see many people having the same view, you think they blindly believe that view and didn't come up with it on their own without doing any research about it and reading about it.
Like I didn't start believing transgender people were the gender they are they say they are just because they said they were. I took my time reading about it and trying to understand it. I didn't blindly believe it unless there was proof out there to back it up and science.
20 Nov 2020, 6:25 pm
League_Girl wrote:
Pepe wrote:
League_Girl wrote:
Pepe wrote:
cberg wrote:
We live in a country where people are being killed for dissident views on this subject. Why are you in denial of this fact?
This is not a "dog whistle", it is a fact that extreme right is extremely violent.
This is not a "dog whistle", it is a fact that extreme right is extremely violent.
Some, but then some left-wing extremists are, too.
I find it interesting that people can't accept the fact that there are dickwads on both sides of the political divide.
It sounds like confirmation bias, to me.
Which suggest partisanship/groupthink.
Groupthink= an idea or opinion many people come up with on their own.
I don't mind playing.
Quote:
Groupthink is a psychological phenomenon that occurs within a group of people in which the desire for harmony or conformity in the group results in an irrational or dysfunctional decision-making outcome. Cohesiveness, or the desire for cohesiveness, in a group may produce a tendency among its members to agree at all costs.[1] This causes the group to minimize conflict and reach a consensus decision without critical evaluation.[2][3]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groupthink
Okay, I hope you don't go accusing others of group thinking then just because they have an opinion many people happen to share and you seem to think that just because you see many people having the same view, you think they blindly believe that view and didn't come up with it on their own without doing any research about it and reading about it.
We have people saying only the right of politics are evil and all on the left of politics are "angels".
Self-evident nonsense.
Do you agree with that statement?
If you do, it would indicate you embrace partisanship, groupthink, and confirmation bias.
I have absolutely no problem saying that.
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20 Nov 2020, 6:32 pm
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20 Nov 2020, 6:33 pm
Pepe wrote:
We have people saying only the right of politics are evil and all on the left of politics are "angels".
Self-evident nonsense.
Self-evident nonsense.
Where has anyone ever said that?
Insisting that the American left has been less violent than the American right in recent history isn't the same as insisting that they're angels. Less horrible isn't the same as perfect. Can you make your case without relying on a strawman?
20 Nov 2020, 6:41 pm
20 Nov 2020, 6:44 pm
Pepe wrote:
League_Girl wrote:
Pepe wrote:
League_Girl wrote:
Pepe wrote:
cberg wrote:
We live in a country where people are being killed for dissident views on this subject. Why are you in denial of this fact?
This is not a "dog whistle", it is a fact that extreme right is extremely violent.
This is not a "dog whistle", it is a fact that extreme right is extremely violent.
Some, but then some left-wing extremists are, too.
I find it interesting that people can't accept the fact that there are dickwads on both sides of the political divide.
It sounds like confirmation bias, to me.
Which suggest partisanship/groupthink.
Groupthink= an idea or opinion many people come up with on their own.
I don't mind playing.
Quote:
Groupthink is a psychological phenomenon that occurs within a group of people in which the desire for harmony or conformity in the group results in an irrational or dysfunctional decision-making outcome. Cohesiveness, or the desire for cohesiveness, in a group may produce a tendency among its members to agree at all costs.[1] This causes the group to minimize conflict and reach a consensus decision without critical evaluation.[2][3]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groupthink
Okay, I hope you don't go accusing others of group thinking then just because they have an opinion many people happen to share and you seem to think that just because you see many people having the same view, you think they blindly believe that view and didn't come up with it on their own without doing any research about it and reading about it.
We have people saying only the right of politics are evil and all on the left of politics are "angels".
Self-evident nonsense.
Do you agree with that statement?
If you do, it would indicate you embrace partisanship, groupthink, and confirmation bias.
I have absolutely no problem saying that.
I've seen the same on the right as well what they think of the left so that also proves group thinking on your end if you agree with that statement as well and confirmation bias. I have also seen the right say how evil the left politics are.
20 Nov 2020, 6:58 pm
Pepe wrote:
cberg wrote:
Can you exemplify me any left wing dickwads brandishing AR-15 rifles at conservatives?
When antifa took over a section of the city, and told reporters to move on, they had automatic rifles.
Factual evidence, on video record.
Perhaps because of the conservative dickwads with more rifles? I don't see any conservatives in your anecdote anyway.
It's called a state of nature. We have a LOT more gun nuts on the right, maybe you would be aware if you lived here.
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"Standing on a well-chilled cinder, we see the fading of the suns, and try to recall the vanished brilliance of the origin of the worlds."
-Georges Lemaitre
"I fly through hyperspace, in my green computer interface"
-Gem Tos
20 Nov 2020, 7:18 pm
20 Nov 2020, 7:57 pm
Point being, only one "public servant" has been aggrandizing the killings of partisans on the other side.
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-Georges Lemaitre
"I fly through hyperspace, in my green computer interface"
-Gem Tos
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