Republican civil unrest, after the Democratic win.

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Because the roads and buildings are not going to be fixed no matter how much the taxes will be raised. We've all been played. It's a shame you guys don't see that.

Gotcha!

Misdirection and subversion etc to what end? There's hardly anyone here.

Business leaders are often about making the most money for the least effort, so the results there are often crap too. What's the difference? Of course, some businesses are ethically better than others, and so are some politicians.

I'd rather see capitalism put to good use, which means containing it within a framework where it can't grow overly top-heavy and self-serving (which normally causes political corruption also). So it does what it is supposed to do, i.e. optimising the allocation of resources to give the greatest returns for society as a whole.

As for Covid-19, every Government is having to juggle economic survival against infection and death rates and the availability of intensive care beds. No point in having a booming economy if you've got no workers or buyers left. On the other hand, no point in everyone surviving Covid-19 only to freeze or starve in an apocalyptic wasteland.

I agree with your cynicism to a certain extent, as some Governments are clearly looking after big business first and foremost. But why do you think that is? It's fairly clear to me that big business "owns" a large number of politicians around the globe, such that many politicians represent business interests first and foremost, rather than their wider electorates. So what we need to weigh up here is what measures are necessary to keep industries alive, versus what measures are being taken to keep profits rolling in regardless, when companies could actually chip back in to society to a greater extent and still survive quite happily. As you said earlier (IIRC) banks are among the worst culprits there.

What I find confusing is this idea that if we removed politicians from the picture and just let the dog-eat-dog world of free market capitalism take over, everything would suddenly get better. Why would it? All that would do is remove the last little bit of restraint and accountability there is. Open season on workers and consumers, thereafter.

The best Government responses to Covid-19 have been the ones that understand human nature the best. In other words they've aimed policy at the lowest common denominator, kept everything simple, and kept it consistent. I genuinely think that's been worth more than highly detailed, constantly evolving plans. Best to have a simple plan everyone can follow, which is easily enforced, even if it isn't especially good - rather than a rolling mess which everyone argues about, nobody understands, and nobody follows.

Where Covid-19 advice has been hotchpotch I take the opposite view to you, though. I think that's been done to encourage herd immunity at a known human cost through deliberate misdirection. Because let's face it, unwell pensioners don't do anything productive, do they? Economically they're a spent force. They don't work, they're useless to the banks if they've paid off their debts, their pensions are expensive to provide, and so is healthcare. From a profit-making perspective the old and the unwell are a burden not a help, so let's bin a few off. Same for those with chronic health conditions. If I were a business leader pulling the strings of politicians, I'd be looking at my spreadsheets asking "What use are they to us?". Because that's what happens when money rules the show, rather than humanism and ethics.

Glad you're an Aspie who can grasp humor. So many of our tribe can't.

The closest I have seen reported thus far is where 1 or 2 Trump supporters may have damaged the front of a car around a week ago:
https://rumble.com/vbd0kl-trump-supporters-hit-by-car.html

It's a start!
Keep your eyes open for those rascally republican rioters.

You might recall I cracked a joke about your propensity to compare apples with oranges drawing on examples from the 1800s......and...you've done it again!

Honestly how is politics in 1824 relevant to 2020??

According to unbiased sources the baseless attacks on Clinton came from a small but noisy radical tendency on the fringes of the Republican Party in the 2016 election.
https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-36992955

Meanwhile Trump was using Megaphone politics to throw slurs about Clinton which were carefully crafted by his neo-Nazi sidekick Steve Bannon tapping into the disgruntled fringe of the republican party.

However the tactic was wildly successful as it sucked in 46.1% of voters

After 4 years there are still 70million Americans who haven't learned a thing.

So do you have a clue of what the democrats have gotten up to?

Holey Moley!
Coming from a man who said China*s* politics these days, is the same as centuries ago.

well I already saw some in my state.


Lol like they lost so IDk what they think waving trump flags in the middle of the road will get them aside from a few flip offs and people yelling 'f**k you, you lost. but even so those smug as*holes had smiles on their faces..I say f**k them traitors. Most people who go to the king soopers that is further north on federal wear there mask, but there are always a few very special people who feel they don't need to wear their mask and f**k those people, Why are they even allowed in the store? I hate having to walk by plauge rats and make a disgusted sound/snort at those peices of s**t that don't have their mask on. And half of them look at you like they can't get what your problem is and its like, where is you mask s**tbag are you really so stupid you cant figure how to put one on? It is so f*****g easy to just wear a mask...I have sensory issues with my autism and I still wear my freaking mask why can't other people?
If I wear my facemask regardless of discomfort why can't you wear one for the 20 minutes you come into shop....I work at a thrift store and just want to let you non maskers know that by going into thrift stores not wearing masks you are putting tons of disabled employees at risk by your selfishness and so you should condider wearing a facemask when shopping in a place where many employees are elderly and disabled instead of just coming in without a mask because you figure no employee would report your disgusting behavior is really offensive. Like we at thrift shops expect you customers woudld follow the rules like no we are not happy with you when you refuse to wear a mask, you are putting everyone at the store at risk when you do that and its really not fair for the employees. Idk what your justification is like freaking wear a mask if you wanna shop or just simply don't come around for discounts when you can't even be bothered to put a mask on. IDK if you are close to death not all us thirft store employees signed up to die for your negligence.

I certainly don't want to die because some elderly boomer couldn't be bothered to wear their mask...

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Because according to them news they don't like is part of a communist plot to destroy freedom as ordered by the Satanic cult that's secretly running the world.


And they wonder why reasonable people don't take them seriously anymore.

I read the left talking about there being a dangerous destructive cult all the time.

Well with things like 'libertarian socialsim' I am not surprised why people cannot take the left seriously. Not trying to diss on people thet really feel that view..but I am sorry libertarian socialism to me still sounds like apologists for capitalism so therefore I cannot support that idea. Not into market socialism ideally...could be that is what is needed now to move towards more progressive ideas. So not saying I would be against it either, but for sure has to be reined in by socialism. Because a free market just left unchecked is capitalism and that is what we should be against, capitalism is the elephant in the room no one wants to adress...but so the elephant remains.

Curious: Focuses on the year mentioned rather than the entire post's content.

This would indicate either 1) poster ignored everything else presented in the post through not reading it in their haste to post a snide remark, or 2) they did read it and felt compelled to focus on the year referenced as a way to attempt to disparage the rest of the original post through being unable to refute its content.

Sadly, neither of those options reflect well on the poster of the above responce.