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20 Aug 2007, 1:07 am

Did you just call God Lazy? :P



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20 Aug 2007, 1:13 am

Rest in the Lord, wait patiently for Him

Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.



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20 Aug 2007, 2:18 am

I observe the sabbath - Black Sabbath, quite frequently. Paranoid, Sabbath Bloody Sabbath, Spiral Architect, what great psalms they were. Oh Ozzy Osbourne you master of reality... :twisted: :twisted:


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20 Aug 2007, 2:24 am

you know, I was almost going to put a 'no black sabbath/ozzy osbourne jokes please' thing in there. I guess it tells you who the idiots are.

I think I've decided it's ok for aspies not to observe the sabbath. yes, i'm almost sure it is.



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20 Aug 2007, 2:27 am

calandale wrote:
It's also damning that The Gospel of Thomas,
the only one which never really proclaims
Jesus as God, may well have been the
earliest written part of the NT.

Yeah, it's possible that it was written earlier than the other canon books but it's not sure, it seems that there is a debate wether it was written in the first or second centuries, and wether it is a gnostic gospel or one that should belong to the Bible.


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20 Aug 2007, 2:29 am

The_Chosen_One wrote:
I observe the sabbath - Black Sabbath, quite frequently. Paranoid, Sabbath Bloody Sabbath, Spiral Architect, what great psalms they were. Oh Ozzy Osbourne you master of reality... :twisted: :twisted:

lol

I used to be seventh-day adventist, I observed the sabbath.


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20 Aug 2007, 2:53 am

so why did you leave? too many rules?



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20 Aug 2007, 3:00 am

that, and growing up.
From childhood to adulthood, you see things differently, I started to question things I have been thought when I was a teenager.


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20 Aug 2007, 3:53 am

postperson: you HAVE to make fun at some of it, because taking it so seriously is what gets you into trouble. Sure religious faith is based on those writings, but it is NOT the be-all and end-all of everything. If it was, why would we even be discussing this?
And as for JohnnyBeGoode's quote that all the scholars who wrote the bible (I mean the individual books; there was no bible before 312 CE) having 'degrees up the wazoo', where in history does it say that there were Universities giving degrees in theology back in 2nd, 3rd and 4th century Rome and Greece? Scholars from Plato to Homer to those that wrote those 'scriptures' had their knowledge to back them up, but there were no degrees back then. Universities didn't hand out degrees until the middle ages (around the time of Nostradamus and Galileo), and only the Universities (if there were any) that were run by the churches would have handed out any. Don't forget, any knowledge up until the 17th or 18th centuries had to be passed on by the church, because anything else was seen to be heresy, and against the word of God. Even the words of the old Greek scholars themselves were frowned upon until fairly recently. There are still parts of the US that only teach god's word, and nothing else; and that is in the 21st century.


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20 Aug 2007, 3:56 am

you don't 'get' me, TCO, I don't think you ever will. I don't have a problem with humour at all, I think jesus was one of the funniest guys that ever walked the earth.



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20 Aug 2007, 3:59 am

So what's your point?


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20 Aug 2007, 6:40 am

<blink> you made a post to me, i responded.




dense dense dense dense dense dense dense dense dense dense dense



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20 Aug 2007, 9:59 am

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Any sabbath observers here? I have a bit of trouble with the concept so don't really observe it, generally I like a quiet life anyway and have that aspie thing of being oblivious to ceremonies or dates. A lot of the time I don't even know what day it is.

Do you think it's reasonable to say that since Jesus is the sabbath, in that Jesus is 'rest', to be with Jesus IS to be at rest.


I try to rest at least half of a Saturday or Sunday, because research shows that taking one day of rest per week provides needed general healing and well being. Also, people who spend time meditating -- focusing on nothing but calm clearing of the mind -- are generally healthier, because they regularly deal with and remove that stress we all get. We OCDers should take note of this in order to avoid burnout.


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20 Aug 2007, 3:05 pm

Ragtime wrote:
Postperson wrote:
Any sabbath observers here? I have a bit of trouble with the concept so don't really observe it, generally I like a quiet life anyway and have that aspie thing of being oblivious to ceremonies or dates. A lot of the time I don't even know what day it is.

Do you think it's reasonable to say that since Jesus is the sabbath, in that Jesus is 'rest', to be with Jesus IS to be at rest.


I try to rest at least half of a Saturday or Sunday, because research shows that taking one day of rest per week provides needed general healing and well being. Also, people who spend time meditating -- focusing on nothing but calm clearing of the mind -- are generally healthier, because they regularly deal with and remove that stress we all get. We OCDers should take note of this in order to avoid burnout.

But you don't believe in the sabbath, do you? the scripture tells us that we have to observe it.


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20 Aug 2007, 4:35 pm

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But you don't believe in the sabbath, do you? the scripture tells us that we have to observe it.


One can pick and choose what one wants.
He doesn't follow the dietary restrictions either.



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20 Aug 2007, 4:44 pm

calandale wrote:
greenblue wrote:
But you don't believe in the sabbath, do you? the scripture tells us that we have to observe it.


One can pick and choose what one wants.
He doesn't follow the dietary restrictions either.

I suppose he doesn't.


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