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cyberdad wrote:
Pepe wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
ToughDiamond wrote:
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So much depends on the views of the local culture and the views of the "accused." Therefore identifying a truly pejorative term can be quite complicated.
So much depends on the views of the local culture and the views of the "accused." Therefore identifying a truly pejorative term can be quite complicated.
But overall you are correct. Communism < Fascism in terms of its negative pejorative impact.
Tell that to my parents.
Yes I am sure experience changes the equation. I recall meeting older migrants from eastern Europe who had horror stories about the Russians. So I guess for them communism gives them PTSD
19 Dec 2022, 7:39 pm
ToughDiamond wrote:
Pepe wrote:
ToughDiamond wrote:
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Maybe not. I think there's more of a consensus these days that fascists are scum, but communists, not so much. So "communist" isn't quite such a pejorative term. Looking at the etymology of the word, it just means somebody who wants things to be done in a more collective, communal way.
Maybe not. I think there's more of a consensus these days that fascists are scum, but communists, not so much. So "communist" isn't quite such a pejorative term. Looking at the etymology of the word, it just means somebody who wants things to be done in a more collective, communal way.
Tell that to the ppl who suffered under the jackboots of the USSR, my family included.
"Socialist Republic", my arse.
I think you're missing the point, which is that fewer people overall would feel offended to be called communist than to be called fascist, not that nobody in the world would dislike being called communist.
Agreed, but that is primarily because the Truth about communist brutality is hidden particularly from the young.
Yes, most ppl think being called a communist is less offensive than being called a fascist.
But most ppl are unaware of the True history of the atrocities of communism.
Both are disgusting, IMO, historically speaking.
But communism is a pie-in-the-sky philosophy.
Great on paper but impossible in real life.
We don't have to tell the Russians and the Chinese about that.
Both have incorporated degrees of capitalism in their system of government and abandoned the true essence of their former political structure.
Communism is a failed political system because it doesn't understand that human psychology is not suited to this concept.
"All animals are created equal...but some are more equal than others."
"Power corrupts...but absolute power tends to corrupt absolutely."
19 Dec 2022, 7:49 pm
ToughDiamond wrote:
Pepe wrote:
ToughDiamond wrote:
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Indeed, the consensus that communists are scum would be fairly strong in some places. It's kind of similar for atheists. As an Englishman I was quite surprised to read this kind of thing:
https://twin-cities.umn.edu/news-events ... inority-us
And even fascism is worn as a badge of honour by some, though it's probably comparatively rare.
So much depends on the views of the local culture and the views of the "accused." Therefore identifying a truly pejorative term can be quite complicated.
Indeed, the consensus that communists are scum would be fairly strong in some places. It's kind of similar for atheists. As an Englishman I was quite surprised to read this kind of thing:
https://twin-cities.umn.edu/news-events ... inority-us
And even fascism is worn as a badge of honour by some, though it's probably comparatively rare.
So much depends on the views of the local culture and the views of the "accused." Therefore identifying a truly pejorative term can be quite complicated.
Any autistic person embracing fascism is a fool, period.
Depends on the individual's circumstances I think. Some might well be personally better off in a fascist regime.
Maybe in a fascist regime that doesn't focus on racial supremacy.
You do realise that the real Nazis in the 1930s wanted to euthanise ANY person with a disability. (This was a common desire in other countries, also, including Ammmeriaa and the UK, at the time, and inspired Nazis to embrace this).
Personally, I fear an ultra-conservative government more than an ultra-progressive one due to personal experience.
I was brutalised by a power-crazed conservative leader in the past.
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19 Dec 2022, 8:29 pm
ToughDiamond wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
Autistic people would be cannon fodder for any fascistic regime…..
Probably in general, yes. But strange things happen with fascism. Mr.Hitler would logically have been cannon fodder for his own eugenics programme, being dark-haired, somewhat short, and possibly monotesticular. It's not inconceivable that a fascist dictator might treat an Aspie very well if their talents were considered an asset to the cause. But I wouldn't much fancy my chances. Mind you, I got on surprisingly well with a boss whose nickname was (with some justification) Satan.
FYI: Most Germans aren't "Blonde haired and blue eyed".
And Hitler was considered average in size.
Quote:
Hitler’s official height was listed as 5 feet 9 inches, which was considered average for a German man in the early 1900s.
https://magazinepatrol.com/how-tall-was ... rs-height/
Hitler may have had only one ball, but it could simply have been propaganda.
Quote:
The possibility that Adolf Hitler had only one testicle has been a fringe subject among historians and academics researching the German leader. The rumor may be an urban myth, possibly originating from the contemporary British military song "Hitler Has Only Got One Ball".
Hitler's doctor Erwin Giesing [de] and his personal physician Theodor Morell disregarded the idea of Hitler's monorchism and said there was nothing wrong with Hitler's testicles.[1] However, Hitler often refused to undress for medical exams.[2] In 1970, the Soviet Union claimed an autopsy showed Hitler was missing a testicle, but the historical accuracy of the report is disputed. In December 2015, it was reported that doctor's notes from Landsberg Prison recorded that Hitler had "right-sided cryptorchidism",[3] on evidence from an enforced medical examination Hitler underwent in 1923.[4][5]
Hitler's doctor Erwin Giesing [de] and his personal physician Theodor Morell disregarded the idea of Hitler's monorchism and said there was nothing wrong with Hitler's testicles.[1] However, Hitler often refused to undress for medical exams.[2] In 1970, the Soviet Union claimed an autopsy showed Hitler was missing a testicle, but the historical accuracy of the report is disputed. In December 2015, it was reported that doctor's notes from Landsberg Prison recorded that Hitler had "right-sided cryptorchidism",[3] on evidence from an enforced medical examination Hitler underwent in 1923.[4][5]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Possible_ ... olf_Hitler
19 Dec 2022, 9:21 pm
Pepe wrote:
FYI: Most Germans aren't "Blonde haired and blue eyed".
According to this map Germans, Scandinavians, Balts, Northern Russians and the British are where the phenotype are concentrated
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