Why do people honestly hate capitalism so much now?

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Yeah I've seen that movie the Matrix, No, logically an AI hive mind would see no purpose for humans once they have the capacity to self-manufacture (after all machines are more efficient than "meat bags").

@Nades:

People didn't plan on being so poor for their efforts. Housing costs have risen about 6x in 15-16 years. Tradesmen with "good," incomes have trouble making rent, buying groceries, or keeping heat on. Doctors/lawyers/engineers can't afford to buy homes anywhere near where they live. Many people already had children when the price of housing, and everything else, started spiralling out of control.

It's a really poor attitude to paint all of those people with the same brush and tell them it's somehow their fault for having families that they find themselves in a difficult spot being able to properly afford to pay for all of their needs. People are working their asses off, getting evicted by landlords that sell/renovate/want to increase the rent, being unable to find another place and end up living in a school bus or tent for a while. People are having difficulty with heating and food costs. No on anticipated that life would become so astronomically expensive that the basic monthly costs of living would become extremely difficult to pay for, even with two working parents in most family households. Get off your high horse and maybe have a little empathy for those who are struggling despite their best efforts - especially since times have changed very rapidly.



3000 man hours to build a house? Sounds low. 6000 hours work to pay for material and labour to build a house? You'd have to Net North of $167/hr after tax to be able to pay for the typical build in Vancouver as of ~5 years ago - must be higher now. 5 years ago a one off typical custom house (not a spec house cookie cutter design) in Vancouver cost approx $1M to have built. (Plus land cost.) A bit cheaper in the suburbs for more square footage as the level of finishing isn't typically quite as high. And it's more expensive today than it was 5 years ago.

@Nades:

People didn't plan on being so poor for their efforts. Housing costs have risen about 6x in 15-16 years. Tradesmen with "good," incomes have trouble making rent, buying groceries, or keeping heat on. Doctors/lawyers/engineers can't afford to buy homes anywhere near where they live. Many people already had children when the price of housing, and everything else, started spiralling out of control.

It's a really poor attitude to paint all of those people with the same brush and tell them it's somehow their fault for having families that they find themselves in a difficult spot being able to properly afford to pay for all of their needs. People are working their asses off, getting evicted by landlords that sell/renovate/want to increase the rent, being unable to find another place and end up living in a school bus or tent for a while. People are having difficulty with heating and food costs. No on anticipated that life would become so astronomically expensive that the basic monthly costs of living would become extremely difficult to pay for, even with two working parents in most family households. Get off your high horse and maybe have a little empathy for those who are struggling despite their best efforts - especially since times have changed very rapidly.



3000 man hours to build a house? Sounds low. 6000 hours work to pay for material and labour to build a house? You'd have to Net North of $167/hr after tax to be able to pay for the typical build in Vancouver as of ~5 years ago - must be higher now. 5 years ago a one off typical custom house (not a spec house cookie cutter design) in Vancouver cost approx $1M to have built. (Plus land cost.) A bit cheaper in the suburbs for more square footage as the level of finishing isn't typically quite as high. And it's more expensive today than it was 5 years ago.

When the housing costs get too big, it becomes prudent to look towards a cheaper location to live. I did this last year. I am now saving $500 per month over my previous apartment rent. I now pay much less for double the living space. The same can be said of those buying housing. One needs to shop around when the costs get too high.

When the housing costs get too big, it becomes prudent to look towards a cheaper location to live. I did this last year. I am now saving $500 per month over my previous apartment rent. I now pay much less for double the living space. The same can be said of those buying housing. One needs to shop around when the costs get too high.

This. I have no idea why people want to live in cities and why they fork out so much money for doing so. There are plenty of jobs outside of cities.

It is well known that urban areas have the bulk of jobs.

Social lives, amenities, restaurants, access to government services, hospitals and medical services, safety/law enforcement, night life, their friends and family are there, some like the pace, some like the architecture, access to airports for travel if they're travellers, access to shops/retailers and even groceries, being near a car dealership for service/warranty, not having to travel vast distances for work or work in out of town camp jobs, the main employers for their industry may only be in cities.. etc. Plenty of reasons people live in cities vs. the middle of nowhere. Not hard to tally up a few of them..

Yes, but that does not mean one has to live downtown in the most expensive areas to have those jobs.

Yes, but that does not mean one has to live downtown in the most expensive areas to have those jobs.

Gee, it would be nice to live in Beverly Hills, California for the amenities. However very few actual people have the funds to be able to do so.

Mmhmm, because Most of the gains of the last half century going to the top <1% isn’t a major reason why plebs are pissed.

If people were paid fairly for the value they produced, wealth would be more evenly distributed, Billionaires wouldn’t exist, and we wouldn’t have the most extreme wealth divide in the recorded history of capitalism.

But okaaaaay, let’s not point fingers at the people hoarding most of the money supply when it must be the fault of landlords. Sure, some landlords are part of the problem, but it’s ridiculous to suggest that the very wealthy are not.

But people have to live in places with access to public transportation. Or quite near the job—preferably within 10 miles.

If someone has a minimum wage job in a city, yet lives about 30 miles from the city, the cost of gas can offset the earnings accrued.

Where did I say a person has to live in the most expensive part of a downtown area?

Frequently, people who migrate to cities live in crappy areas in, or near, that city.