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01 Aug 2005, 12:38 pm

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I've read a lot about Buddhism, but I just can't agree with the Buddhist goals of eliminating desire and focus on earthly things. Asceticism (I can't spell) in general just doesn't fit with my worldview.

I'm not a big fan of hedonism either, and I think selfish desire is the cause of most of societies problems, but I think aligning personal desire to the good of the whole is a more positive change than simply trying to stamp it out.


I think the biggest thing about that is learning to draw happiness from within and not needing to draw much of anything from the world outside you. Not that I'm one to talk, I still have a long way to go on that at least on the material end - interpersonally I seem to be doing pretty well though :) .


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05 Jan 2006, 3:06 pm

I have decided to become a muslim of the fundamentalist wahabe strain and am happy that i have truly found Allah after all my ungodly doubts. Allahu akbar la Allah illa Allah.

BTW this is not an invitation for you racists to tackle my religion or make Islamophobic and racist remarks, im simply stating my beliefs not calling for a debate or an ungodly criticism of my religion.



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05 Jan 2006, 3:47 pm

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I have decided to become a muslim of the fundamentalist wahabe...

You might find it a little... erm... let's say restrictive, old chap.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/gulf/wahhabi.htm



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05 Jan 2006, 4:23 pm

I'm a Catholic.



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05 Jan 2006, 11:18 pm

I consider myself Messianic Jewish, although right now, I attend a Presbyterian church where the pastor is very pro-Israel. I accepted Jesus Christ (Yeshua Ha-Mashiach) as my Lord and Savior between my sophomore and junior year in college, and God has been my strength ever since. My personal theology leans towards Calvinism.



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06 Jan 2006, 1:04 am

I'm not sure what I am. I'm supposed to be Catholic, but I don't really believe in it. I believe that there most likely is a god, and I believe in spirits. I also pray on occasion. I'm uncomfortable with going to church and saying grace before meals though. I prefer to keep my relationship with God, if He/She exists, personal. I am skeptical about Jesus, Moses, and everything else in the Bible. I took a quiz and it said I was 96% agnostic. I suppose I'm agnostic leaning towards there is a God? I am agnostic in the sense that I don't think things can be proven and an somewhat against organized religion, but I have my beliefs in God and spirits as well.

Edited to add: I am somewhat against organized religion for MYSELF. I have nothing against anyone who chooses to be a part of an organized religion. Everyone should believe whatever they choose.



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06 Jan 2006, 1:16 am

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Religion and politics should not mix. Making the laws because of people's religions is wrong, as they should be based on proven facts. That's why George Bush is destroying the world.


I agree. There should be a separation of religion and state.



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06 Jan 2006, 2:07 am

eamonn wrote:
I have decided to become a muslim of the fundamentalist wahabe strain and am happy that i have truly found Allah after all my ungodly doubts. Allahu akbar la Allah illa Allah.

BTW this is not an invitation for you racists to tackle my religion or make Islamophobic and racist remarks, im simply stating my beliefs not calling for a debate or an ungodly criticism of my religion.

Okay, fine...but you better plan on having a few unannounced visitors...like the SAS or maybe a CIA rendition team!;)

Assuming you are serious, why get mixed up with the Wahabbis? They are probably going to die off in the next couple decades anyway. Why not join a group that can just hang out at their mosque, do their 5 daily prayers, go to Mecca, and get along with the people around them? Such groups do exist, but I wouldn't know how to find one near you. @:-)>



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06 Jan 2006, 2:25 am

eamonn wrote:
I have decided to become a muslim of the fundamentalist wahabe strain and am happy that i have truly found Allah after all my ungodly doubts. Allahu akbar la Allah illa Allah.

BTW this is not an invitation for you racists to tackle my religion or make Islamophobic and racist remarks, im simply stating my beliefs not calling for a debate or an ungodly criticism of my religion.
You are going to become what when did this happen how long is it going to take You to be a fundamentalist of the Sunni Wahabe strain are You going to Saudi Arabia soon to do this or what.

The Wahabe are Sunni mainly in Saudi Arabia just so You know eamonn okay.


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06 Jan 2006, 4:15 am

I'm a Christian, but I can't figure out which denomination. See, I was baptized and grew up in the methodist church when I was younger. Then we moved, and started going to a presbyterian church, where I was confirmed. But now that I went to college, I joined the Wesley Foundation (part of the methodist church) on campus and I go to a methodist church on Sunday. So, I guess I'm methodist as of this moment.


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06 Jan 2006, 5:43 am

Agnostic. I don't believe in God, or gods, or deities, or what have you (because it doesn't make any sense to me as an explanation for how the universe works, and doesn't answer the question "why" anyway), but I'm not opposed to finding out there is one (or many :-) ). I'd still want to know where *they* came from, though :-D.


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06 Jan 2006, 5:46 am

Nah just joking, i wouldnt give up my drink for man nor god. :wink:



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06 Jan 2006, 5:49 am

eamonn wrote:
Nah just joking, i wouldnt give up my drink for man nor god. :wink:

Whew. :-) I almost posted asking if you were joking, because it seemed it must be a joke based on the first sentence of your post. But the second sentence totally threw me off, because that sounded sincere and serious. I was debating whether to ask or not, because I didn't know whether you might get offended at the mere asking--some people, especially those who have converted to a religion as adults, take offense very easily when questioned about their beliefs.

Thanks for clearing this up for me :-).


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06 Jan 2006, 6:00 am

No probs. The fact i dont belive in a god probably doesnt help the case but as is pointed out elsewhere some people stay in religion for the culture despite the lack of belief. Indeed if i ever have children here i will probably get them baptised as catholics for cultural and schooling reasons even though im an atheist myself.



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06 Jan 2006, 1:46 pm

eamonn

I think You should become a Wahabe Sunni and live in Saudi Arabia. :lol:

So what do You think. :wink:


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06 Jan 2006, 2:17 pm

Well kevv, it might still happen. I was on the blower to Ali the other day and told him Im totally down for this fundamentalist s**t in Saudi but enquired as to were i could get a drink on my own time, well he says i cant and i says "dont bust my balls, i know we tell the masses to not drink but we are the ruling elite and so have the privalege to be hypocritical unlike the great unwashed, surely this is just something we tell others to do".

Well he said that would be unholy and that i am acting like an infidel so i say "look if im going to be fundamentallly strict and angry seven days a week and giving sermons about the evils of the americans and their vices for sixteen hours a day then i need something to take the edge off of it so where do i get a drink, buster?"well then he get's angry and said if i drink alcohol then he personally promises that i will be bent over, have my trousers pulled down and get 100 lashes with a wip and 50 skelps with a slipper as punishment, so i said "il hold you to that brother Ali". All in all im looking forward to being a Saudi Wahhabi.